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Primo57
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(Total posts: 266) 		posted January 30, 2000 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo57   Click Here to Email Primo57     Edit/Delete Message
Well, you bros know what my job is now..
anyway, I think I'm on to a possible substance that is virtually identical to
DNP (chemically at least). It is called
sodium azide (NAN^3). The two substances
are interchangible in the laboratory..when
one runs out they simply substitute with
the other. I'm going to do a good bit
more research on this topic and will keep
everyone up to date!

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macrophage69alpha
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(Total posts: 568) 		posted January 31, 2000 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
virtually identical is not identical
think of it this way Ketamine and PCP are virtually identical chemically. Be careful with Uncouplers of the mitochondria many of them work by a different method than DNP- ways that will cause cellular death. I am not saying that this might not be an alternative but make sure that you look at all the literature you can regarding sodium azide especially ones that describe its method of action in animal studies.

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macrophage69alpha
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(Total posts: 568) 		posted January 31, 2000 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
STOP TAKING THIS COMPOUND IMMEADIATELY
I got this from the Journal of biochemistry

Uncouplers and inhibitors
Uncouple the PMF from oxidative phosphorylation by dissipating the PMF.
dinitrophenol and dicumarol - both lipid soluble substances that increase the permeability of the membrane to protons.
Inhibitors block the flow of electrons
carbon monoxide, cyanide, hydrogen sulfide, and azide.

what this means is that sodium azide will kill you
death
death
death
stop taking this and fucking do some research before even thinking about injesting known toxins

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macrophage69alpha
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(Total posts: 568) 		posted January 31, 2000 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
whoops
sorry I thought I read that you were already taking it.
but a warning- you should not post something like this because it may encourage someone else to try it- becuase it makes it sound like this is a DNP alternative. which it is not.
not to be critical but I think that better wording of your proposal might be in order.

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