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Various Information about Nutropin

Date: July 15, 1998 06:01 PM
Author: Brian Raupp ([email protected])

It's not just the cost that makes Nutropin AQ an attractive product, but the fact is Nutropin AQ is far superior compared to other forms of rhGH(saizen,humatrope,etc.). There is plenty of info on this product at the genentech website at www.genentech.com.

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Date: July 15, 1998 06:10 PM
Author: BrianRaupp([email protected])

Yes, the unlabeled Nutropin AQs are legit. They come in 2ml vials with either blue tops(called "bluelids") or green tops(called "grasshoppers"). Price is usually around $200-$600 per 30 iu vial. I haven't heard of any counterfeits of these going around currently.

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Date: June 02, 1998 11:00 PM
Author:Lurch

Been using the blue flip top Nutropin AQ's coming from the east coast. Just started 10 iu's every other day (5 iu's + insulin in the AM and 5 iu's + insulin POST workout). Anyway, I've been getting flu-like symptoms, ie muscle weakness and some weird type of muscle pains in specific spots... but on the good side, I feel like I got a good pump going all the time. I'm wondering if I'm taking too much GH (I'm 200 lbs.). Anybody else fell like this before?. Thanks

P.S. One of the medical cautions for GH use is local muscle weakness... so I think what I'm feeling is definitely from the GH

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Date: July 14, 1998 10:54 AM
Author: Trapzilla oo7 ([email protected])
Subject: Nutropin AQ results, please post results if you haveusedit

I dont spend much time on this board but Varix's is gone and I guess this is a hell of a lot better than elite.
Anyway, I want to get some gh. The Nutropin is a great buy. But, I heard it was just repackaged insulin. So, I need some help from you guys that have done Nutropin. Thanks

Trapzilla oo7

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Date:April 17, 1998 04:40 PM
Author:ZZZ
Subject: Nutropin dosage

Hey J. Monkey check this out: (taken from the Genentech site you posted)

0.10 mg/kg for a 220lbs BB = 10mg

Also in another part they state:
"ach 10 mg Nutropin vial contains 10 mg (approximately 30 IU) somatropin, lyophilized with 90 mg mannitol, 3.4 mg sodium phosphates (0.8 mg sodium phosphate monobasic and 2.6 mg sodium phosphate dibasic), and 3.4 mg glycine."

Apparently they don't feel that a 30IU injection is too much for a healthy adult male as 10 mg is 30IU of Nutropin.

Look also at this:

Adult Growth Hormone Deficiency (GHD)
The recommended dosage at the start of therapy is not more than 0.006 mg/kg given as a daily subcutaneous injection. The dose may be increased according to individual patient requirements to a maximum of 0.025 mg/kg daily in patients under 35 years and to a maximum of 0.0125 mg/kg daily in patients over 35 years.

To minimize the occurrence of adverse events in older or overweight patients, lower doses may be necessary. During therapy, dosage should be decreased if required by the occurrence of side effects or excessive IGF-I levels.

And since when do bodybuilders follow the recommended dosages of ANY drugs, huh? FYI 0.025 mg/kg daily is 7.5IU for a 220lb BB.

I still think your 2IU is too little but I guess we'll find out.

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Date:August 06, 1998 05:16 PM
Author: Leighton

STOP- it should say on your vial how many IU's are in there. All brands of GH vary- the Nutropin AQ is only 2 cc's and has thirty IU's- so 15 iu's per cc is what that comes out to. It should say on the vial how many IU's are in there. pull ALL of it out and look- do the math. if there is 1 cc and 14 IU's- that means a half a cc is 7 IU's- 1/4 of a cc is 3.5 IU's- it is simple math. the old nutropin (before it was pre-constituted was a 10cc vial. - In America, they measure GH in MG- they sold 10mg vial- and 10 mg equaled approximately 27 IU's- that is where the 2.7 IU per cc came from. it is not like that with lily humatrope- it depnds on the vial and how much bacteriostatic water came with it (the other vial with the water - you have a kit that come with two vials- one with GH and one with water)- just do the simple math- it is not hard

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Date:July 15, 1998 06:05 PM
Author: Brian Raupp ([email protected])

As Leighton mentioned the nutropin AQs will turn a cloudy white if you freeze them. This will also occur if you drop the vial in boiling water. Either way, you've ruined the product but these are two ways to test it.

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Date:July 15, 1998 12:24 AM
Author: Neanderthal

It is real. You will hold way more water in the wrists than on just roids or insulin. Also healed both of my shoulders after just 6 weeks of it and they have been screwed up for about a year. Up 20 lbs in bench on it,new record for me at 365 which is saying alot since I have been flat on my bench for sometime. Up from militaries went from 75s for 9 to 95s for 9(dumbells). Your face puffs up more than just roids. YOu will know if it was insulin in it instead of hgh because if it was insulin you would never lose your pump like you will taking hgh for awhile without insulin. Makes you sweat like a cardio working doing weights. Hgh increases perspiration. Also takes care of some of the bad effects of roids like cholesterol and blood pressure. Will hold quite a lot of water in the forearm wrist area. The water rentention is nice to work out without, no pains when working out.

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Date:July 13, 1998 12:24 PM
Author: Brian Raupp ([email protected])

If you are talking about Nutropin AQ, you do not want to pack it directly in ice because you will freeze it and most likely ruin it. If you do happen to freeze nutropin AQ, let it thaw out at room temperature. If it is white and cloudy, the product was ruined. However, if the liquid is clear, it should still be fine.

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Date:June 16, 1998 01:33 AM
Author: hero

I am writing to stte that the Nutropin AQ in the unlabled vials coming from the New England area are not insulin.

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BIZ!