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Leroy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted January 27, 2000 08:02 PM
Hi Guys !! What do you guys do to protect the liver when on roids ??? pray ?? ------------------ IP: Logged |
2Thick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 346) |
posted January 27, 2000 08:05 PM
You can drink milk thissle, take essential forte and take other precautionary measures. Jon ------------------ IP: Logged |
macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 568) |
posted January 27, 2000 08:08 PM
I have never heard of drinking milk thistle, although the herbal capsules active ingredient (SILYMARIN) has been shown to regenerate damaged liver cells- even in cirrhotic(sp.) livers. ------------------ IP: Logged |
E2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 867) |
posted January 27, 2000 08:16 PM
Standardized silymarin 160 mg + 3x/day Evening primrose oil 1300 mg 2x/day Alpha lipoic acid 100 to 200 mg 3x/day Glycyrrhizinate Forte 1 capsule 3x/day N-acetyl cysteine 600 mg 3x/day Glutamine powder 2g to 12g 3x/day (1 heaping teaspoon = 4g, 1 hpg tablespoon = 12 grams) Omega 3 fatty acids 2 to 3 capsules 3x/day Lung Tan Xie Gan Chinese herb formula - as directed
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Leroy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted January 27, 2000 08:25 PM
Hey E2, i have to take all this toguether or choose one of them ??? ------------------ IP: Logged |
WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 155) |
posted January 28, 2000 11:11 AM
E2, you should post that whole article, it is good info and will explain things in greater detail. I think I have it SOMEWHERE .... When I'm using an oral I'll take the Milk T, N-acetyl cysteine, all the oils (this you need to do for the whole cycle anyway) and extra Vitamin E. And of course Glute.... Late Lobo p.s. AND NO DRINKING IP: Logged |
E2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 867) |
posted January 28, 2000 01:03 PM
Leroy you don't have to take all of them choose two or three, and warlobo i'm looking for the article but i can't find it, when if i do i'll post it IP: Logged |
styles Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 73) |
posted January 28, 2000 01:36 PM
E2 has listed all the things you can take. but water in large amounts is key. try hot water with lemon in it before bed. this may sound strange but after your cycle is over and your not taking any pills...1 small alcoholic drink a day will actually not be enough to destry the cells in the liver but promote tissue regeneration. look it up, sounds odd but its true, just dont think you can go out and get pissed while on juice every night and think"hey, i feel great" you wont feel so great when your piss looks like cherry koolaid. ^_^ styles IP: Logged |
quenepo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 202) |
posted January 28, 2000 04:32 PM
I take milk thissle and Primrose oil. quenepo IP: Logged |
WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 155) |
posted January 29, 2000 11:03 AM
The truth is, all oral anabolic steroids that are 17-alpha alkylated (17-AA) do have some potential for liver toxicity, especially with higher doses, so your doctor should monitor liver function tests. Oral 17-AA steroids also can affect blood cholesterol in ways that may increase the risk of cardiovascular disease. Specifically, they raise LDL cholesterol, and lower HDL cholesterol. To reduce this risk somewhat, people who use oral steroids should consider taking 400 to 800 IU of Vitamin E and 1000 to 2000 mg of Vitamin C with every meal, as taking these vitamins reduces the potential for cholesterol to oxidize. The oxidation of cholesterol promotes atherosclerosis (plaque formation in the arteries). Also, people who use oral 17-AA steroids should take any of several dietary supplements that help protect the liver. One of the best of these supplements is the herb called silymarin (milk thistle) as a standardized extract. Standardized silymarin should be purchased from a health food store to get the best quality, and good brands include Enzymatic Therapy, and Jarrow. Protecting the Liver Standardized silymarin160 mg + 3x/day Weight-Lifting To optimize the anabolic effect of steroid it is important to lift heavy weights for about an hour 3 to 4 times per week and eat a high protein diet.
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 568) |
posted January 29, 2000 04:57 PM
WARLOBO I could not agree more accept I would up the FLAX OIL to two table spoons a day- no one gets enough omega threes in their diet unless you live off of north atlanic fatty fish. just my two cents BTW- flax is oil is great for the skin- the problem with caps is that they are alot more likely to be rancid than the fresh bottled oil- which is why caps make some people break out. A side benefit of Omega 3 is that they are weak mitochodrial uncouplers so they actually increase your metabolism. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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