posted January 27, 2000 06:29 PM         

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i have been taking large amounts of insulin trying to get into ketosis over the past few days and nothing yet. i almost passed out from low blood sugar. im eating plenty and everything. i will discontinue the insulin use as there must be no trace of glucose in my body...does anybody know why i might not be entering into ketosis???

styles

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posted January 27, 2000 07:17 PM            

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Ketosis takes time and should only be done through diet. Your playing with fire. Just eliminate both simple and complex carbs for about a week. You'll feel like hell and you'll be in ketosis. "Body Opus" has alot of good info on this. Be careful and Good Luck.

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posted January 27, 2000 10:02 PM            

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anyone have ideas on amt of calories to get into keto.does creatine screw up keto. any sup ideas to help get into keto..

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posted January 27, 2000 10:12 PM            

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DID YOU READ BIGDAWGS POST?? DEPENDS ON THE CREATINE--CELL TECH WILL HAS TOO MUCH SUGAR! DON'T MESS WITH HUGE AMOUNTS TRING TO GO KETO, ONLY TAKES A SMALL AMOUNT SEVERAL TIMES A DAY IF DONE RIGHT! READ DAWGS POST!

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posted January 27, 2000 10:29 PM            

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yes thanks a bunch...dawg has the diet down pat for sure.. i am really not taking any sups now because i was trying to narrow the variables down..i have backed off the cell tech and eas carb loaded crap after realizing that if i eat moderate carbs i don't hold water an look better .. but i am hoping this keto diet will bring me the rest of the way to summer sharpness..thanks for the replys.

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posted January 28, 2000 02:14 AM         

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yes i realize that the carbs have to be limited but my bllod sugar is almost zero from the insulin...if im not in ketosis by tomorrow night ill have to change my approach.

styles

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posted January 28, 2000 03:18 AM            

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Been there, done that! Your problem in one word: carbohydrates. You can use the insulin, but it is driving the glucose out of your blood and converting it into glycogen in your muscles. Eliminate carbs completely, stick with proteins. If you want, I can e-mail an article to you on how to do this. E-mail me and let me know if you want... [email protected]

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posted January 28, 2000 11:34 AM            

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Bro,
Be careful with insulin! If your blood sugar is that low, you are probably already in ketosis. If you are using ketostix to determine your level of Ketones, don't forget that they are measuring the amount of Ketones NOT being used for fuel. If you have an active life style and attempt to measure ketones in the afternoon, the sticks will probably not show a change in color even though you are in ketosis. Therefore the best and only time you can accurately measure is upon waking in the morning before the ketones are used as energy.

Another problem could be your diet. What is the ratio of fat and protein you are eating? You will not be able to reach ketosis if your protein is to high because in a no carb diet, high amounts of protein will be broken down to sugar and used as fuel. You should be eating around 70-80% fat for the first few days in order to drive your body into deep ketosis. Once you are in ketosis, it would be O.K. to up your protein to 35 - 40% of your daily calories.
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posted January 28, 2000 01:54 PM         

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dino strong.....i must comend you sir... your right...the ketones that show on the strips are representing the excess ones not used. well my legs were so sore this morning that i decided i couldnt do my cardio at the gym so i stayed home, tested in the morning and im in ketosis. now im happy and now its time to train like a freak and burn burn burn those calories...

styles

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posted January 28, 2000 02:40 PM            

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Styles, start saving your money and shop for a plot where your gonna be buried

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posted January 28, 2000 02:53 PM         

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hmmm, now why does everybody keep saying that to me??? strange. i dose right i train right i eat right, i research before i do things...im not one of those guys that wakes up in the morning and reaches into a steroid grab bag and pulls out whatever...something different every day, ahhh, this will do just fine for today. no, but i do sometimes go to extremes.

styles

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posted January 28, 2000 03:01 PM            

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STYLES, please e mail me with all the info on what your eating and HOW your using your insulin. i can probably tell you whats going wrong. [email protected]
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posted January 28, 2000 09:12 PM            

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hey styles sounds like you are being sensible i mean if the med community knew what all the pros where using they would have to rewrite the med journals..

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posted January 29, 2000 02:15 AM         

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ok, that is your oppinion, there are many people whom do worse than i. by the way, what excactly is not being sensible?

styles

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posted January 29, 2000 04:24 PM            

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styles i found an incredible web site last night on keto diet..you sound alot more knowledgable than me so you have probably seen it ...the body opus stuff...if you you like to chk it out ill post it ..it cleared up a bunch o questions for me..

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posted January 29, 2000 07:16 PM         

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sure thing. i have been reading about it for a year now. im no expert but iv done hours of reading. did you read the journal by lyle mcdonald last year??? he did the diet for weeks and weeks and wrote down all his experiences. when i did the diet for the first time i could relate and it helped a lot.

styles

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