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eclass Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 8) |
posted January 27, 2000 12:37 AM
 
I've been on the boards for about a week now researching my first cycle. So far, Im pretty set on a deca/primo stack(based on descent gains and minimal side effects) However,I keep hearing so much about the almighty "SUS". What is it? Is it a test? Will the gains be that much more substantial than on the deca/primo stack and what side effects will I experience? (thanks to everyone who has been so patient w/me) IP: Logged |
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NPCPRO Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 120) |
posted January 27, 2000 12:39 AM
first what r u looking 2 do with your body get bigger or cuts? are you exp. weight lifter? eat well? give more details IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 568) |
posted January 27, 2000 12:47 AM
why the hell does everybody want these expensive, ineffective cycles made up of the most counterfitted steroids? at least I havent heard the infamous anavar, primo, masteron stack yet but I am sure it will pop up. SUSTANON is a mixture of 4 esters of testosterone. each one having different half lives- making for a fairly even release of test into the blood. I personally believe that test should be the foundation of any stack. and that anything under 500mg is counterproductive, especially if this is not just a cutting cycle- BTW- I feel that cutting cycles are preety much worthless. Bulk up with AS and then trim up the fat afterwards- preferably with DNP- but if that is too extreme then just hit the CLEN. followed by ECA+ yohimbine ------------------ IP: Logged |
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tom_jumper Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 45) |
posted January 27, 2000 01:16 AM
i think the sust will be a great addition to the stack. i'm kinda leary of using primo, as the other guy said, it is so damn expensive. only sides i experienced with sust was a case of acne. tj IP: Logged |
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shaonuff Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 125) |
posted January 27, 2000 03:08 AM
get some sus bro. good stuff 500 a week 6-8 weeks no taper will do you good. just get some nolvadex just in case....but you shouldn't have much side affects at that dose if any......... IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 568) |
posted January 27, 2000 03:16 AM
HOW MANY TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO BE SAID CLOMID IS BY FAR SUPERIOR TO NOVALDEX- which has been shown by the way that it decreases production of IGF-1. clomid keeps testes at play and keeps the evil gyno away sorry sometimes you just have to rhyme ------------------ IP: Logged |
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snaps Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted January 27, 2000 12:22 PM
don�t wanna be a teacher but why are you guys recommend stacs and heavy doses for fellows having first cycle? Isn�t it better to have low doses and making it slowly higher depending on results? What is a year of testing the right stuff vs a livelong death in case of damaged liver? Sorry, just a little thought! IP: Logged |
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macrophage69alpha Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 568) |
posted January 27, 2000 03:13 PM
HMMM? Liver damage from test? that certainly is a new one or pehaps i should say an old and best forgotten one. sure you get elevated liver values when taking gear. SO WHAT? creatine gives elevated liver values, heavy lifting gives elevated values, drinking alcohol gives highly elevated liver values. There are not studies whatsoever that show that anabolics, other than 17akylates, cause any kind of liver damage. THAT BEING SAID- The reason that high doses are advocated is becuase the first cycle is usually the best and second I think that most people are just wasting there time with the minor anabolics because they inevitably move to higher doses- or quit. I beleive that you might as well start out high and get good results- rather than waste money on complicated hard to obtain and basically unsatisfying cycles. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Mr. T Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 120) |
posted January 27, 2000 03:52 PM
Great advice snaps. If you are a normal guy, (not looking to be the next Olympia)Sus 250 would be a great cycle by itself. Assuming you have been lifting for a while,(2years at least in order to have strong ligaments and tendons) Try a decrease the days cycle. You can expect at least 15lbs. It goes like this: One rediject on days 1,14,24,31,38,44,49,54. Once you graduate, move to the next level. (A more complex stack) IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 155) |
posted January 27, 2000 05:56 PM
Macro... What is up with all the deca/primo fricking threads?!?!?! Who the heck started it? And why the hell is everone on this board scared to take test??? Liver damage from test? Good Grief... 15 lbs. of mucsle from primo/deca? Gads... I guess I'm just a bit overwhelmed by all the same exact questons being asking. Ah well... Late Lobo IP: Logged |
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SICKBOY1974 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 19) |
posted January 28, 2000 04:42 AM
HEY, I GOT PRETTY GOOD GAINS FROM SUS 250 ALONE, AND ADDING DECA CAN ONLY HELP. MY MAJOR SIDE EFFECT FROM SUS WAS ACNE. I HATE ACNE LATER IP: Logged |
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