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FreakMonster

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posted December 18, 2000 12:50 PM

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Anyone know any good sites I can go to for info. to show her it doesn't?

I think Havoc is an expert in this field!!


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KiNg_BeNNy

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posted December 18, 2000 12:57 PM

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of course pot kills braincells ....what did you think it did ....every drug in the world kills brain cells

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FreakMonster

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posted December 18, 2000 01:01 PM

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Thanks for the insignificant info you provided benny but I was look for good websites with good info.


THANKS FOR PLAYING THOUGH!!

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posted December 18, 2000 01:01 PM

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weed is from da earf

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posted December 18, 2000 01:03 PM

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Supersize that was too funny!


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KiNg_BeNNy

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posted December 18, 2000 01:07 PM

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hey freak ill tell you what ..go to google.com..and type in your question..you should get what your looking for


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posted December 18, 2000 01:08 PM

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Well I can't see how it could be good for you...


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MP5

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posted December 18, 2000 01:09 PM

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It does kill brain cells. What did you think it did, create them? Poison ivy, sumac, and tobacco is also from the earth. The latter killing millions with heart and lung disease.

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posted December 18, 2000 01:14 PM

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Thanks Benny I knew you were a good bro

Doesn't Marijuana cause brain damage?

The short answer: No.

The long answer: The reason why you ask this is because you probably heard or read somewhere that marijuana damages brain
cells, or makes you stupid. These claims are untrue.

The first one -- marijuana kills brain cells -- is based on research done during the second Reefer Madness Movement. A study attempted to show that marijuana smoking damaged brain structures in monkeys. However, the study was poorly performed and it was severely criticized by a medical review board. Studies done afterwards failed to show any brain damage, in fact a very recent study on Rhesus monkeys used technology so sensitive that scientists could actually see the effect of learning on brain cells, and it
found no damage.

But this was Reefer Madness II, and the prohibitionists were looking around for anything they could find to keep the marijuana legalization movement in check, so this study was widely used in anti-marijuana propaganda. It was recanted later.

(To this day, the radical anti-drug groups, like P.R.I.D.E. and Dr. Gabriel Nahas, still use it -- In fact, America's most popular drug education program, Drug Abuse Resistance Education, claims that marijuana ``can impair memory perception & judgement by destroying brain cells.'' When police and teachers read this and believe it, our job gets really tough, since it takes a long time to explain to children how Ms. Jones and Officer Bob were wrong.)

The truth is, no study has ever demonstrated cellular damage, stupidity, mental impairment, or insanity brought on specifically by marijuana use -- even heavy marijuana use. This is not to say that it cannot be abused, however.

3b) If it doesn't kill brain cells, how does it get you `high'?

Killing brain cells is not a pre-requisite for getting `high.' Marijuana contains a chemical which substitutes for a natural brain chemical, with a few differences. This chemical touches special `buttons' on brain cells called `receptors.' Essentially, marijuana tickles' brain cells. The legal drug alcohol also tickles brain cells, but it will damage and kill them by producing toxins (poisons) and sometimes mini-seizures. Also, some drugs will wear out the buttons which they push, but marijuana does not.

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KiNg_BeNNy

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posted December 18, 2000 01:26 PM

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why your very welcome..freak

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posted December 18, 2000 01:39 PM

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I dont know...everyone I know that smokes the crunk all the time....they all have one thing in common....short term memory is not at its peak level. I dont think you can argue the case that pot is not bad for you....At the least you can get lung cancer. Hope this helps


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posted December 18, 2000 01:43 PM

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Bacaba:
Does marijuana cause short-term memory impairment?

The effect of marijuana on memory is its most dramatic and the easiest to notice. Many inexperienced marijuana users find that they
have very strange, sudden and unexpected memory lapses. These usually take the form of completely forgetting what you were talking about when you were right in the middle of saying something important. However, these symptoms ONLY occur while a person is `HIGH'. They do not carry over or become permanent, and examinations of extremely heavy users has not shown any memory or thinking problems. More experienced marijuana users seem to be able to remember about as well as they do when they are not `high.'

Studies which have claimed to show short-term memory impairment have not stood up to scrutiny and have not been duplicated.
Newer studies show that marijuana does not impair simple, real-world memory processes. Marijuana does slow reaction time slightly, and this effect has sometimes been misconstrued as a memory problem. To put things in perspective, one group of researchers made a control group hold their breath, like marijuana smokers do. Marijuana itself only produced about twice as many
effects on test scores as breath holding. Many people use marijuana to study. Other people cannot, for some reason, use marijuana
and do anything that involves deep thought. Nobody knows what makes the difference.

Do your research before you open your mouth?


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posted December 18, 2000 01:47 PM

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Bacaba NO ONE HAS EVER DIED FROM POT DIRECTLY!!!

Don't people die from smoking pot?

Nobody has ever overdosed. For any given substance, there are bound to be some people who have allergic reactions. With marijuana this is extremely rare, but it could happen with anything from apples to pop-tarts. Not one death has ever been directly linked to marijuana itself. In contrast, many legal drugs cause hundreds to hundreds of thousands of deaths per year, foremost among them are alcohol, nicotine, valium, aspirin, and caffiene. The biggest danger with marijuana is that it is illegal, and someone may mix it with another drug like PCP.

Marijuana is so safe that it would be almost impossible to overdose on it. Doctors determine how safe a drug is by measuring how
much it takes to kill a person (they call this the LD50) and comparing it to the amount of the drug which is usually taken (ED50).
This makes marijuana hundreds of times safer than alcohol, tobacco, or caffiene. According to a DEA Judge ``marijuana is the safest therapeutically active substance known to mankind.

Hope this educates you better about Marijuana.


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MP5

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posted December 18, 2000 01:49 PM

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Block RI, O�Leary DS, Hichwa RD, Augustinack JC, Boles-Ponto LL, Ghoneim M M, Arndt S, Ehrhardt JC, Hurtig RH, Watkins GL, Hall JA, Nathan PE,
Andreasen NC. Cerebellar hypoactivity in frequent marijuana users. NeuroReport 2000;4:749-753 (PET scanning of subjects mean use of marijuana 17 times
per week for last 2 years. Found lower blood flow in a large region of the posterior cerebellum. Not only does this have implications on motor coordination and
function, but also cognition, timing, processing sensory information, and attention. )

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posted December 18, 2000 01:56 PM

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MP5 What are you trying to say with that report. That this report does indeed prove that marijuana kills brain cells.

Well for your information, lower blood flow in the brain does not mean dead brain cells or no brain activity.


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posted December 18, 2000 01:59 PM

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FreakMonster....I'm making my opinion on what i see not what I read. Sometime you will lern that its better to judge on self experience and observation then just believing what some dumb ass researcher said. So before you go jumping on my ass....remember that you posted this asking for an opinion...if you dont want one than shut the fuck up and dont post this crap...you are obviously only going to belive what you want....And do you honestly believe that pot doesnt have negative effects...come on man...your probably not that fucking stupid....


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No they dont. MP5, your wrong sir. I have read the stuff you have pasted here before. go to www.hempcultivation.com look around and click on marijuana myths, its basically the same shit. Yes there are sterotypical weed heads who display the same, redundant mannerisms and such expected but keep in mind everyone is an individual. Take me for example, my thoughts are universes and I will put my mind against any mofo on this planet. Also its been researched that most of the negative bullshit out there about marijuana is funded by the govt. implying that they are going to bullshit there way through anything kind of like they usually do. peace

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MP5

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posted December 18, 2000 02:06 PM

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You're right, it does not say it kills brain cells, I am not a scientist, but i do know that most people that smoke a lot of pot are fucking idiots.

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posted December 18, 2000 02:07 PM

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Bacaba: You are exactly right!!
YOU POSTED AN OPINION!!

I already know alot of what marijuana does.
I was not asking for opinions on the subject! I was just asking for a web site that could back up the factual information that I was trying to relay to the girl that I am dating.

The information I posted were FACTS and not opinions.

Bro, sometimes judging on self experience and observation is misleading.

I did not get that info. from some dumb ass researcher. These are PROVEN facts that you will find on any report or web site affliated with marijuana.


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MP5

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Honestly, I could care less what people do such as smoking weed. But... I will never buy the argumement presented by pot-heads suggesting that pot is good for you. I still believe your health and mental clarity would be even better if it were not for all the pot you smoke. I am not doubting there are some smart people out there smoking weed, but how much smarter would they be if they did not. Plus, your lungs were designed for air, not smoke. Keep smoking if you like, as for myself if I am going to endanger my health with drugs I would rather do it with some test, and EQ.

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I'm just going to go with popular opinion on this one. Just through rationalization...you loose brain cells when you sneeze....I cant belive you dont loose them by smoking crunk....I could be wrong. The web is huge..I'm sure you will find some sites that support your conclusion.


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posted December 18, 2000 02:28 PM

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FM, tell her to quit bitching & just try it! God!

I used to be the same way with my BF & now I smoke it with him from time to time!
We have a much better relationship, cause I never bitch about it anymore.


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posted December 18, 2000 03:19 PM

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Due your search and you will see truth.


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posted December 18, 2000 03:28 PM

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I smoke it from time to time and love it. But if you think it isn't harmfull to you in any way, that would be denial.

Havoc: when you are high do you think your as quick witted, bright, intelligient, whatever than when your not high?

Now please keep this civilized you genetic freak, I know its a personal thing to you - but Im just speaking from what I know.

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posted December 18, 2000 03:31 PM

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maybe it does kill brain cells,maybe it doesnt.one thing is for sure is that pot makes a person lazy and fat. the muncjies kick in and i dont really know anyone who can fight them off, which leads to weight gains.i have also heard that if for some reason you can fight off the munchies,its speeds up meatabolism,therefore losing weight.


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posted December 18, 2000 03:54 PM

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blah, blah, blah, So you think pot is not good for your health?

Neither is steroids or twinkies or the million other things that people consume!!
Give me a fucking break!! Did I ever say that pot was good for you?

Thermo. I smoke pot regularly and I'm not fat and lazy. I think you are just making a generalization about pot.

If you are a responisble adult pot will not make you lazy. Ask the U.S. Army. They did a study and showed no effect. If this were true, why would many Eastern cultures, and Jamaicans, use marijuana to help them work harder? `Amotivational syndrome' started as a media myth based on the racial stereotype of a lazy Mexican borracho. The prohibitionists claimed that marijuana made people worthless and sluggish. Since then, however, it has been scientifically researched, and a symptom resembling amotivational syndrome has actually been found. However, it only occurs in adolescent teenagers -- adults are not affected.

When a person reaches adolescence, their willingness to work usually increases, but this does not happen for teenagers using marijuana regularly -- even just on the weekends. The actual studies involved monkeys, not humans, and the results are not verified, but older studies which tried to show `amotivational syndrome' usually only suceeded when they studied adolescents. Adults are not effected.

The symptoms are not permanent, and motivation returns to normal levels several months after marijuana smoking stops. However, a small number of people may be unusually sensitive to this effect. One of the monkeys in the experiment was severely amotivated and did not recover. Doctors will need to study this more before they know why.

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posted December 18, 2000 04:59 PM

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Man you guys typed a lot of words and stuff. I thought we were talking about weed. Anyway weed is good for you, I smoke it like every day, and..... uh.... what was I talking about?


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hey freakdaddy,
what does a lack oxegen (spelling?) do to the brain? think hard.

what does any kind of smoke do to your lungs?
keep thinking.

i think the best place to look for correct info on weed is from a pro-hemp forum.

users are losers, and losers are users, so don't do drugs, DON'T DO DRUGS!!!


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I hear you Slopain, depends sometimes though, I have played collegiate basketball games high, studied high, took tests high, consistent 3.5 GPA, like I said its the individual, also most of my marijuana use is ingestion whether its brownies or the cookies I just made. Of course smoke is bad for you thats why I incorporate high grade herb to where one or two hits is all I need. I use a vaporizer or some filtering device each and every time I smoke. Havent smoked an actual joint or blunt in 5 years and will continue my safe practice. peace

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posted December 18, 2000 07:14 PM

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freakmonster,yes im generalizing,but thats how it is with most people


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MP5

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Havoc, I really don't think pot is that bad once in awhile, but a lot of people cannot handle it and turn it into an everyday thing. I think drinking everyday would also be bad for you. My girl I am dating now was a total burner before we dated and now that she is of of it she is so cool and motivated and easy to talk to. Sucks cause i don't want her on weed and she does not want me on juice. Catch 22.

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posted December 18, 2000 07:42 PM

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Once in a great while like drinking a beer or two here and there will do nothing. If it's a habit, it will make you stupid. I was a really sharp fucker when I started college...

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