I need to replace floor deadlifts in my routine so my developement doesn't lack in the areas of lower and mid-back thickness. I was thinking of Good Mornings and Stiff Legged Deadlifts, but I really need something for overall thickness.

I have tried barbell rows but I just can't get a good mind-muscle connection with them. They don't feel right. Anyone have any awesome back routines?

My back routine:

Havoc, calling Havoc..for your input.

Also, if you guys think BB rows are the way to go I'll do them.

sample workout

med grip bench, rest 1:30, med grip row rest 1:20

3 heavy sets

incline db press, rest 1:15 DB rows rest 1:15

2 sets, medium/heavy weight

fly, rest 1:00, reverse pec deck fly (rear delts)

high reps, 2 sets or 1 drop set on each.

then hit tris.

the other UB day I do the same thing with delts and chinning movements, then hit bis.

We are now a happy couple and she helps me get more victims, by playing a lesbian and luring the mark to our apt. The rest is easy because she slips them a rohypnol and I take over.

I do have a problem though, they always want more, and the rohypnol is now impossible to get. I am glad I stocked up!!!

Just kidding but who knows this idea may have some real world applications.

reverse grip smith machine rows 4x6-8

1 arm db row 3x6-8

stiff arm pulldown 3x8-12
superset<
reverse grip pulldown 3x4-6

pulldowns behind the neck 4x8-12
(do these with your feet as far behind u in an arc as u can, so your not held down by a pad. youll have to go lighter and stricter, but once u do it this why u will see why it is so good.)

low cable row 3x6-10

if u can't get thicker and wider off of this routine, then there is no hope for u and u should kill yourself acourdingly.

just kidding. good luck.