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Freak Posts: 1823 |
Advice needed from Jae, MattSky, BikiniMom, Havoc... Only the SERIOUS ONES. no flames here please. I am starting to feel a bit insecure about myself because of certain things that the BF has been saying lately to me. It may be all in my head but, I need to know if I should say something to him about how I am feeling. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 549 |
So, you only want advice from those ppl you mentioned, Dlady27? Is that what you're saying? | ||
Freak Posts: 1823 |
No Lisa, I just meant that I don't want the Immature replies that I usually get here. They are just certain ones I could think of that are mature adults off the top of my head. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 731 |
Hey girl - in all honesty, it sounds like he is the problem, not you. If he feels that insecure about himself and the both of you as a couple, I think that he is wondering(thinking) about this other girl. Ask him straight out if he is still interested in this other chick. Be honest with him about your feelings. | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 549 |
hmm, I am mature and can be mature sometimes.... | ||
Guru Posts: 2095 |
You are experiencing the male version of a needy bitch! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! ------------------ | ||
Guru Posts: 2801 |
Where do I start, first you said Serious Replies Only, that is funny especially here. Second, forget the subaru legacy, go with something else. Now the important stuff. Your boy acquaintance(not friend) is being quite selfish and acting extremely immature. What he is doing is a childish attempt to get under your skin and it is working. I take it you have spoken with him about the comparison thing? Let him know you are DLady not this other jeep driving muskrat. If he isnt happy with you then let that mofo know he needs to move on, it will be his loss. There is no need to feel insecure D, go take a look in the mirror. Your a solid chick in all aspects. Be strong in this situation. Let him know how you have sacrificed for him and tell him he is being selfish. There is nothing worse than being breathed on all day by anyone. Everyone needs a little space. peace ------------------ | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 660 |
i'm not a mod but your getting my advice anyway. first you spoiled him by doing all those things for him.massage,cooking, etc. there is nothing wrong with those things by any means, but it is kind of like dealing with a kid. once you give that attention to the kid all the time, and you turn around and take it away from them, their going to find other ways of trying to get that attention back. as your boyfriend is obviously doing!!! do not let him mess with you mentally, obviously he is. this will become a very volitale relationship. you do not need that my friend. stand up for what is in your heart, and don't be afraid to speak what is on your mind. if you don't this will become ugly. i hope this makes sense. ------------------ | ||
Freak Posts: 1823 |
Shadow, I think you might be right cause I know that he does think about her, i ask him what he is thinking about and I get no reply back from him, I am not stupid. I think he feels that she loved him more than me because I do not "depend" on him so to speak, where as she was "living her life for him" would be the best way to put it. He sees it as I should go along with whatever he says, or does, and i dont I tell him my opinion and then he gets pissy, where as she would not say a word except, " yes, honey that sounds great" or "yes, honey i will" ... I asked him last night if he would like me to just become his f--king wench. He knew when he met me that I wasn't an ass kisser!!!! humf.... | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 51 |
Is the purpose of a relationship not meant to be a positive one? You are both meant to make each other feel good about yourselfs, be there to support and encourage and share the good and the hard times. You should never feel like you are not the greatest thing that has walked into their life if you are in a serious relationship. My advice is he either shapes up or ships out. Why spend your time feeling down on yourself (you are obviously a great girl from what you have said) there are other guys out there who would love a shot at a woman like you. Get back to feeling good, whatever it takes, remember you gotta live with your thoughts and feelings everyday. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 731 |
Dlady - you (or anyone) should not need another person to be happy in this life. Think of having a significant other like this: it is the cherry on top of the ice cream. You don't NEED it, to enjoy the ice cream, but it does make it better. From this man's perspective, I want an independent woman. Someone who does not rely on me for everything. Independent women seem to enoy life so much more than the "clingers". They also make a better sundae on which to place the cherry... | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 623 |
I would give you my .02 Dlady but I am not mature enough!! | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 575 |
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH SHADOW. I DONT THINK YOU ARE THE PROBLEM AT ALL. YOU SEEM TO GIVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN WHICH IS WHAT ANY MAN SHOULD EVER ASK FOR. IF YOU ARE GIVING IT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE THAN IF ITS NOT ENOUGH FOR HIM, HE SHOULD JUST GO BACK TO HIS EX SINCE SHE IS SO WONDEFUL AND YOU SHOULD MOVE ON AND FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL APPRECIATE A GREAT WOMAN...ZEUS13 | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 553 |
Blow jobs go a long way in keeping a man happy.. Just my $.02 | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1004 |
D, In all honesty I think you try too hard to make relatioships work. Just sit down and talk about all the issues that you guys have.Me and the Captain have talked and he knows what I have gone thru with my GF. If you have to force things to work and one person is making the other feel inadequate then its a no-go. Few people really realize what love really is. Take time by yourself and really think. Control your world, dont let it control you. ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 314 |
Relationships are very much like politics. You can NEVER get all you want, but should always get something from the other. I have been married 13 years and there is no secret to having a successful relationship. All you have to do is accept that your mate is not perfect and don't sweat the small stuff but bond over the serious things in life. Be appreciative of your mates passions. If they don't have one, then its going to be a challenge for you to love them. Follow your instincts and don't be afraid of failing. The only people who don't make mistakes are those that never do anything. Godspeed to you, live life, don't worry about it. ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 549 |
Dlady, could you email me? I need to share something with you....my addy is in my profile, yours isn't... | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 485 |
for some people the grass is always greener , and somethings may be going on just in your head , but , either way , do the best you can , and be true to yourself. | ||
Freak Posts: 1823 |
HERE LISA, [email protected] | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1339 |
You know there is a word for what this guy is doing. It is called MANIPULATION. It is saying that so-and-so did this for me, and she did it this way, and she did it this many times. Don't you want to be like so-and-so? It is a direct comparision with you getting the short end of the stick. If this girl does so much, then what exactly are you doing that she is not? He is with you for a reason, not that the reason can be a good one, but there is an underlying reason that he is not getting all this from Mrs. Ex-So-And-So. You are not wrong in thinking that you feel insecure, that is exactly what he wants you to feel. It is a cheap and childish tactic of getting what he wants. It is saying, this is the deal, if you don't do it, then you know - there is someone over here who will. From the way you described him, he sounds childish, self centered, and insecure himself. Why does he need all the attention all the time? Is he so insecure that if you don't constantly pander to him, he will feel like you don't love him? And he says he doesn't want to return the attention to you? HELLO? I once dated a girl like this. Loved her to death, but insecurities and self centered behaviour was the death of us. I felt really bad because out of all the girls I have ever dated, she had the most potential up until I met my current girlfriend. Then my current girlfriend wiped her out completely out of my mind. Something a few other girls could not do. I loved her enough to follow along with her behaviour thinking that perhaps if I did everything she wanted me to do, her actions and attitude would change and it did not. When you start doing everything, they only increase the list. I felt like I was always second best, never good enough, constantly fighting a losing battle. Then I woke up one morning and thought, you know I am young, I have an education, I have a great body, a terrific personality, a lot of desires of my own that she is robbing me of, and then I cut that bitch loose. The hardest thing I had to do at the time, and was miserable for about one year afterwards, missing her each day. but it was for the best as I would not be twice as happy today. Real Men don't resort to mind games like this. If I want my girlfriend to do something for me new or do something different from the way she normally does, or do more something she is currently doing, I would never say, someone else did this. I would say, I really like/want/need this - it is important to me, what can I do for you to make you see how much I like/want/need this. You should play that song by Whitney Houston "MY NAME IS NOT SUSAN" for him. Tell him to take a note. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 994 |
Here goes anyway... Have you ever had a normal relationship? Dump his ass, real tough | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 549 |
Jae, you said it good.....I should ask you for advice sometime manipulating and controlling...or rather, he wants to control.....insecure too.. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1339 |
P.S. If he says that you are not doing enough for him, then maybe you should tell him that there are guys out there who would settle for you doing less. Less is easier to do than more, and more isn't necessarily better. And the easiest way to get your self esteem and confidence back is to find someone who doesn't cause you to second guess yourself. Email me your address, I have a book that I will send you and it will tell you exactly why THIS guy is doing all this stuff. And it will help you find an insight to yourself and what you are looking for. Beleive me, it cuts down on kissing a lot of frogs. | ||
Freak Posts: 1823 |
Jae, I feel like he is making it as though I OWE him these things and more, see one night I made the mistake of telling him to leave, well he went and destroyed his Mustang that night into a very large tree. Thank God he lived. Anyhow, itis like I am to blame for him wrecking the car, but I know it isnt my fault. He is responsible for his own actions. But now, I keep feeling like he is wanting me to do all this to say, " I have to do this because I caused him so much pain before" I realized that I broke his heart and not once but twice, now I am trying to make it all work this time and I want to do everything right, but at what expense? I have to let it be known that I am not going to give give give, to prove my love to him and earn his trust back w/ out having something given back to me in return once in awhile. he basically sees it like this ~ "because I hurt him sooooo bad, not once but twice, I should HAVE to do all these things and more to show him i love him". WTF? I already told him that if the grass was greener on the otherside then go be with her! i am not in a compition for his love! [This message has been edited by Dlady27 (edited December 11, 2000).] | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 731 |
Dlady - is this the guy with the child... | ||
Guru Posts: 2104 |
Dlady...just lay it to him straight...this is you...you are not her....if he would be more happy with her, then leave....if he loves you, then accept you for the type of person you are, and quit his bitching.... Question: you really cook, and give hima massage every freakin night...and he still bitches???...sugar that boys got problems....I think he's a selfish pig | ||
Freak Posts: 1823 |
yes, Shags, I seriously cook dinner for him every night, well at least 5 nights a week. Chicken dishes, and steak dinners that is all he will eat, some pastas. Bad part is I am so stressed I dont eat anything but soup at lunch. no dinner for me. oh well. and YES, full back massage every night when we lay down in bed. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1339 |
Dlady, well you know THAT YOU DO OWE him this stuff. You OWE it to him because..... um.... let's see..... gosh, I forgot why you owe it to him? If he wants you to feel as though it is your fault he messed his car up that night, then you should make amends. Buy him some driving lessons at the local traffic school. But to shoulder an unspecified or responsible guilt is not fair. So you made a mistake twice and hurt him twice. So what? Nobody is perfect. I can understand why he may need assurance constantly, if so, then that is for you to give him, but not for him to directly manipulate you into doing it. He is using the past to control the future in his favor. After two mistakes, it is his fault he is still there as well as yours, after twice before, he knows fire is going to burn him. And he still may feel like he wants to play with it still? The fear of a third time of being hurt and heartbroken may be keeping him from opening himself up and exposing his vunerability again. If so, he needs to go because you can not love someone you are scared of. And face it, he is a male, if Mrs. Jeep Driver could do it better, you better believe he would be there in a heart beat. So do not compare yourself to someone who is - by all standards - still number two to him. In relationships, when they end, most people want to upgrade with their next partner. Not go back down the ladder. My email is [email protected] | ||
Guru Posts: 2104 |
Dlady....drop him like a dress on prom night sugar...he's mental....I don't know a single guy who would complain about shit, getting a massage every night...hell If I could find a man to give me a massage every freakin night I"d stay with hime regardless of personality, looks, compatability,...the con list could go on forever before I could complain about a boy who massaged me every night. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 249 |
Now Dlady, if i can remember right, your pictures showed a women that could be a model. And I dont know of any women like that who would put up with the bull shit you are. There are many men out there, this guy sounds like a complete ass hole. | ||
Moderator Posts: 2055 |
D - The guy is playing games with you. He is displaying HIS OWN insecurity by doing this bullshit. He is using her as a way to get you to give him more than what would be a normal contribution to a healthy relationship. When one person does a disproportionate amount of the giving, it means the other is doing a disproportionate amount of the taking. This is a recipe for failure. The Skywalker has been badly burned in relationships. Initial symptoms were similar. When a guy (or girl) starts hinting about someone else, that other person is on their mind. He is starting to drop hints to see how you react. You are reacting normally - frustration and exasperation - because you care for him and do your best to take care of him, yet he does this crap. Hear these words: You should never define yuor self worth based on the opinions of someone else. Being upset is normal but who and what you are does not change based on who comes into your life. In summary: Life expectancy for women is roughly 80 years. Why do you want to spend even one minute of that doubting yourself or the direction in which you are headed? Lose the guy, lose the problem, and try single life for a while. Life is too short to get dragged down into other people's bullshit. Good luck. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1339 |
Matt said it like a true non-Oracle person. (smile) | ||
Freak Posts: 1823 |
Just want to say THANKS to everyone for helping me out here and giving me some good advice. Jae, I will email the WHOLE story to you in the AM. tired of typing. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 229 |
Here is my 2 cents. Do not buy a Subaru, they are great 4wd but that is it! Don't talk to us, talk to him. Ask him and be straight forward. "Look here, I am not that slut! DO YOU want to be with ME, or do you want to keep playing these fuck fuck games?" Or something of that sort. So, a message everyday huh? | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 360 |
Is not this the boyfriend you were cheating on earlier and posted about how great it was? You are getting what you deserve, live with it. Just cuz the truth hurts does not mean you should not have to deal with it. I don't mean to be a dick, but I had to call this one. | ||
Moderator Posts: 2055 |
D - If in fact you did cheat on him, may he have no mercy on your soul, may he torment you, and may you never know happiness ever again. Losers cheat. On the other hand, if not - then, refer to my above post. | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 13 |
Hey did this guy ever make YOU dinner? Did he ever give YOU massages? Sounds like there's a lot going on in this relationship but it sounds like you'd be less stressed if you were alone or with someone else. | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 42 |
wo,wo wo .....lets take a chill pill here everyone,this is her side of the story ...WHATS HIS ,as everyone know there are always three sides....her side ,his side ,and the truth ...im not saying she is lying about it however im sure there is more too it then we all hear...if he is this bad and selfish and always thinking about the other hoe ,,,,,WHY STAY makes no sense???maybe you really are passive and like to be controlled and treated like shit ,,,or maybe you are full of shit and not telling the whole story???????? | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 12 |
Sounds like he wants a "keeper" not a "partner". Tell him you'll hire a maid and a massage therapist and see when you fit after that. If you don't seem to fit into the equation anymore. Don't let him make his problems your problems. All relationships have sacrifices but to minimize your health and happiness with all this stress is not good. Talk to him some more and be honest with him. If you have made mistakes, and we all do, apologize and hope he forgives. Blaming and not taking responsibility gets nowhere. Don't let people take you for granted. Sometimes we all need a wake up call to realize what we have. Good Luck | ||
Moderator Posts: 2080 |
Dlady - I don't have a crystal ball but from what you are telling me this guy is a real jerk! He's taking advantage of your affections and instead of repaying your kindness by doing thoughtful gestures in kind, he whines he wants more! You seem like a great girl, but for some reason you keep ending up with men who mistreat you. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but there is definitely a pattern here.....and I think that you end up with these guys (not saying ALL MEN ARE BAD) because deep down you feel that you don't deserve better or perhaps you feel that by trying to "fix these broke guys" is how one shows love and affection. We all have faults and we could all stand to have our lives enriched by many, MANY people. HOWEVER, to go through life trying to make guys into people that they ARE NOT is a sure recipe for misery. Dump the guy. Get a good therapist. (WE ALL NEED TO TALK TO A PROFESSIONAL SOMETIME!) Find out what truly makes YOU happy.....and when you least expect it, that very wonderful man (or men) will be there ready to treat you the way you should be treated. But if you do not work out your own issues first, you will be doomed to continuously repeat this pattern. Go Get healthy and happy! ------------------ | ||
Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 413 |
quote: This is an easy one. He is using the implied threat of getting back with her against you to get you to do what he wants & you are taking the bait! The guy sounds like a real JACKOFF & if you are the kind of woman that does all the things for her guy that you said you do, then YOU HAVE TO KNOW that there are a million guys out there who want a lady like yourself. If your BF really loved you he wouldn't be treating you like this period!!!!! Let me ask you...how are you gonna feel about all of this "other girl" shit once(& if) it blows over? I GUARANTEE that if you stay with this guy that you will someday realize what he was doing & you WILL FUCKING HATE HIM FOR IT as you probably should. There is no future with this guy. You should move on IMO. Good Luck |
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