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d1734

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posted December 09, 2000 06:37 PM

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i have decided i am not coming off the juice. winny/drol until i reach 220 @ 6% (hopefully before my 18th b-day). guess i am telling the people here cuz not like anyone in RL would care, hahaha. oh well, 1 of these days it will all be good.


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Dr.Atlas

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posted December 09, 2000 06:41 PM

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It'll be hard to gain muscle faster than your liver shrinks, but good luck at hitting 220. If I thought your mind wasn't made up I'd tell you to wait and juice. Even so, your choice of gears wouldn't be mine. Best Wishes bro. Peace!

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d1734

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posted December 09, 2000 06:47 PM

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my liver will be fine. already been on high dose accutane for a year with no problems. now i am on milk thistle heavily and ALA. i will get my liver checked when i turn 18 just in case.


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted December 09, 2000 06:57 PM

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Winny is good with Drol because it cuts the side effects, but neither of them bind tightly to the androgen receptor. Once you are on the combo long enough for HPTA inhibition to fully take place, you will not be getting the most out of your cycle. I'd suggest adding some Tren or equipoise to the winny and drol. It sounds like you are avoiding injectables in favor of orals...not a good idea. You will crash very hard when you come off also.


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d1734

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posted December 09, 2000 08:07 PM

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i know all the specifics of this stuff. 500mg-1g total steroids a week is going to give me gains whether it binds to the AR is synergistic and all of that scientific mumbo jumbo. ive already done deca and sust as part of the cycle. winny/drol are used because of $$$ reasons, no other.


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Tryn2getbig

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posted December 09, 2000 09:35 PM

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Uh, sus and deca are a helluva lot cheaper than winny and anadrol! LOL!


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d1734

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posted December 09, 2000 09:55 PM

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LOL!!! umm how about STFU, depends where you get it. like, duh and stuff.


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KODIAK99

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posted December 09, 2000 09:58 PM

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The question really is will your liver be turning 18 with you or is your liver celebrating its 100th bday at that time? Be smart, train and cycle correctly if you want to be in this for the long hall. AS are certainly an advantage to getting there, but if not used correctly you will end your pursuit quickly and possibly forever. Just my 2 cents.

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d1734

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posted December 09, 2000 10:02 PM

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IMO, the liver is highly overrated anyway. maybe my liver will be about to die when i am in my 20's, but i'll just grow another out of some stem cells. yay for technology.


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Steelheart

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posted December 09, 2000 10:04 PM

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why r u using in the first place?


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d1734

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posted December 09, 2000 10:08 PM

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let's see...to get big, to feel better, because there are no real reasons not to use, etc. it could be worse, i could be a crack/heroin head.


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Monster

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posted December 09, 2000 10:11 PM

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I personally am not against long term use. It CAN be done, and done safely too! Dont listen to people who are stuck in the old fashioned way of cycle thinking...
Whats with the Winny though? Do you get it cheap or something? Theres better choices than Winny, especially as far as safty goes. But I guess if I got a bunch of it cheap I would sure as hell use it.
Good luck, though!

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slack3r

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posted December 09, 2000 11:33 PM

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I was thinking of hitting 1g test/week and 5 abombs/day until i hit 300# at 5"7..im 140# right now so..hopefully ill get there in acouple years.


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Beezers

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posted December 10, 2000 02:02 PM

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I would rotate your choice of drugs. Perhaps replace the winny with EQ. EQ is lovely stuff. Or perhaps go EQ/winny. I would switch my choice of drugs.

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Frackal

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posted December 10, 2000 08:30 PM

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D, how tall are you bro?


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Recoome

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posted December 10, 2000 09:15 PM

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The steroids aren't gonna be effective after 2-3 months, espcially with Anadrol. Using it any longer than that will only degenerate your HPTA. Being 18 and impotent is something you don't want to experience.


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