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havoc

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From:The 27th Century, USAtiva
Registered: Jul 2000

posted November 23, 2000 09:27 PM

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Frackal, WTF are you doing? Why are you contemplating gear, you dont even know what your doing yet, what I mean by that is in 3 or 4 years the knowledge you think you have about lifting now wont seem like shit to you. Dont resort to that just yet, implement some patience and learn more about your body before resorting to AS. Also the Gear your contemplating use with is horrible and Dirty, Sustanon is a dirty ass mexican test, reforvit b is garbage, if you are going to use why not find a hook up that can supply some primo and deca. Just looking out for you, I hope you reconsider, your gains wont last with your choice of AS(sustanon, revorbit,etc), you'll go into a mental depression afterwards and will be worse off than before. Again the knowledge you have now wont amount to what the future holds for you in that aspect. Good luck with your decision. peace

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Beezers

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Registered: May 2000

posted November 23, 2000 09:56 PM

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Bro, I think you're the one that needs a little education in AS use. Sustanon isn't dirty mexican test. It is made in several countries. It is meant for use in humans. Yes, human beings. To the extent of my knowledge he is a human. Sust is one of the cleanest, safest, and user friendly tests avalible. Last time I checked one of his posts he was considering deca. He was getting many opinons and trying to sort through his options to find the one that will best suit him. It is unlikely he will experience depresion and likely he will keep the majority of his gains with proper knowledge. Something you appearantly lack. He may be too young, he may not be. It is his decision. Only he knows if he is respomsible enough and prepared enough for this. He was given his own brain for a reason...so he can think for himself. He knows better than anyone here where he is at in his training and where he wants to go.

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havoc

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From:The 27th Century, USAtiva
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posted November 23, 2000 10:03 PM

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Beezer I am not hear to argue, I could write a novel on your ridiculous response but choose not to. Frack doesnt need that shit right now. He doesnt know his body like he will in the future and thats a fact, nobody does, its a trial and error thing, you telling me I have a lack of knowledge in AS is right on the money because I dont use but I do know that being 24 years old 245lbs, 7%bf, 5'10 and all natural basically says I know my shit more than most on here all put together, I have taken this shit to a new level and will continue to make Roid users look like dwarfs next to me. peace

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Frackal

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From:THE VOID
Registered: Sep 2000

posted November 23, 2000 10:04 PM

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Well Havoc...I'm going to be honest with you, and even though I'm going to come away sounding like a psycho, here's the deal:

I have a specific idea in my head of how I want to look. I HAVE to look this way. Don't ask me to explain why, but until I do, my confidence is nothing. I don't do anything, ever. I turned down a relationship with a girl at school because I look like such shit because of my back injury.

I am not a happy person now, not at all. I'm also an ectomorph who worked very, very, hard for the 5-7 lbs. I watched slip away in these past few months. I look like a pathetic piece of shit right now I can't even stand to look in the mirror.

Bodybuilding is my whole life, I have nothing else.

I won't be using reforvit-b actually. I WILL be using vet deca...and the sust can either be from Nile <yuck> company or Karachi <pakistani if I'm not mistaken.>

I don't see how you can say my gains will not last though. I know I will lose some water, and some muscle, but trust me, I plan on training incredibly hard afterwards as well as during. I believe I will be able to keep a solid 20 lbs. if I continue to dedicate my entire life to this as I have been.

You see Havoc, I don't view this as much of a choice at all. If I do this, then I can finally finally finally relax a bit in my head and not constantly think about getting bigger. I know that the nor-200 is not the best product, but many people on this board have used it without ill effects. I know you don't approve of AS use, and if I thought there was a better way, I'd take it. But there is not.
Thanks for lookin' out..


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havoc

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From:The 27th Century, USAtiva
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posted November 23, 2000 10:16 PM

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I understand where your coming from, good luck and I hope it does the trick for you. peace for the night and I am about to get some ass.

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scott825

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Posts: 1094
From:Norfolk,VA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted November 23, 2000 11:24 PM

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Havoc your natural stats are almost just like
me.Watch out you may get some jealous replies
& people say its B.S..Thats what happened to
me when I told everyone my stats.Anyway thats
good keep up the hard work bro.

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