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madbomber31

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From:in Nashville, but always a Detroiter!!!
Registered: Oct 1999

posted November 22, 2000 09:44 AM

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EVER HEAR OF PROLOTHERAPY? I THINK THIS IS THE DIRECTION I AM LEANING IN... IF YOU LOOK AT MY POST ON THE ANABOLICS BOARD YOU WILL KNOW WHY... LONG STORY SHORT, I AM FUCKED ADN FINALLY WILLING TO ADMIT TO IT. I NEED HELP!!! I AM WASTING GEAR RIGHT NOW FOR NOTHING!!! I NEED CLOMID I NEED TO QUIT GEAR TILL I CAN DO SHIT... CHEST ONCE EVERY 10 DAYS ISNT CUTTING IT... NOR IS NOT DOING ANY FORM OF FRONT DELTS...

SURGERY IS LAST RESORT BUT THEY WANTED TO DO THAT 3 YEARS AGO, I SAID NO STUPID ME...


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The Shadow

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From:Georgia
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posted November 22, 2000 09:45 AM

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Have you tried ART? Most insurance will now cover the cost.

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Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed.
Every morning in Africa, a lion wakes up. It realizes that it must run faster than the slowest gazelle, or it will starve to death.

The moral?

It doesn't matter whether you are a lion or a gazelle, when the sun comes up - you had better be running.


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madbomber31

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From:in Nashville, but always a Detroiter!!!
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posted November 22, 2000 09:50 AM

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WHAT IS ART? I HAVE BEEN TO ZERO DOCS SINCE SURGERY WAS WHISPERED TO ME.


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BigTruck

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From:Beyond The Pale
Registered: Jun 2000

posted November 22, 2000 09:53 AM

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I gave ART a try for a couple of sessions on a hamstring and elbow injuries. It did help somewhat at the time -- still have the problems, but they are less pronounced now. Maybe if I would have gone to a couple more appointments...

I went out to Colorado Springs to have them done (about 11 hrs from where I live) so I could only get in a couple over the week that I was in Denver. Might be worth a try -- insurance did cover most of it. Dr. Leahy at the Champion Health Clinic is who I went to (he is one of the inventors of ART).

As an aside, TESTOSTERONE is housed in the same building as Leahy (think it's just by chance they plug him?) As I left from my second appointment, I ran into Charles Polquin training somebody in the downstairs gym. Knew he looked familiar, but didn't recognize him until I had left...

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He had the cold, glazed eyes of a madman. Looking at him gave me a preternatural chill. Thank God the killer goat was locked up -- safely out of touch with the civilization he had once haunted during his bloody youth.


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Captain_insano

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From:Edison, New Jersey, USA
Registered: Oct 2000

posted November 22, 2000 09:54 AM

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ART FOR ME IS USUALLY BETWEEN LUNCH AND RECESS....

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"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you're not."
-Phlogiston Verdigris


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havoc

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From:The 27th Century, USAtiva
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posted November 22, 2000 09:54 AM

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ART is anything the artist can portray, Art is found anywhere one looks, it is in the eye of the beholder. Remember Kindergarten when you drew your hero Michael Jackson, that was art.

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"Navigate the Treacherous and make it look Effortless"


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BigTruck

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From:Beyond The Pale
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posted November 22, 2000 09:55 AM

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ART is ACTIVE RELEASE TECHNIQUE.

Here's some info:
http://www.testosterone.net/html/body_63real.html

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He had the cold, glazed eyes of a madman. Looking at him gave me a preternatural chill. Thank God the killer goat was locked up -- safely out of touch with the civilization he had once haunted during his bloody youth.


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The Shadow

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posted November 22, 2000 09:56 AM

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ART = Active Release Therapy. Basically a DEEP tissue massage which breaks down adhesions and scar tissue which has built up over the years. I know that many pro BB'ers have had this done. My personal experience is limited to a guy at my gym. Doc told him he had cuff problems, and to get cut on. This was a big dude ~ 240lbs. It got so bad that he could not DB press 35 pounds. After 3 sessions of ART, he was back up to using the 75's. About 3 months later, he is at all time PR's on all pressing movements. Good luck. Keep us posted.


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madbomber31

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From:in Nashville, but always a Detroiter!!!
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posted November 22, 2000 10:07 AM

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SHADOW, THAT GUY SOUNDS LIKE ME... 245 AND I SOMETIMES CANT BENCH A 45 LB BAR

WHEN I WOULD HAVE A GOOD DAY (GOOD DAY= A DAY WHEN I CAN SUFFER THROUGH THE PAIN) I CAN STILL GO DECENT ON DB'S, BUT BAD DAYS FAR OUTNUMBER GOOD ONES... I WILL LOOK INTO "ART"... DOES A DOC HAVE TO TELL YOU TO HAVE IT DONE OR CAN YOU MAKE AN APPOINTMENT?


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Gilbyag

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From:Cowboys From Hell Tx USA
Registered: May 2000

posted November 22, 2000 10:07 AM

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awesome, thanx for the info bros.


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The Shadow

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From:Georgia
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posted November 22, 2000 10:12 AM

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I would get your doc to make an appointment. A referral would make it harder on the insurance company to deny coverage.

[This message has been edited by The Shadow (edited November 22, 2000).]


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BigTruck

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From:Beyond The Pale
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posted November 22, 2000 10:32 AM

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I just went to him. Didn't have any problems w/ insurance.


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