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runner

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posted November 13, 2000 08:15 AM

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i know, i'm one of the very few.

it looks like miami may move ahead of fsu. just looking at the new computer rankings and it appears they may have made up some ground with their good win over pitt and fsu's ugly win over wake.

a lotta' different scenarios could still play out...if florida beats fsu and then loses in the sec championship game and if oklahoma loses the big12 champ. game to ksu it could be a free-for all. even oregon st. could slip into the title game in that scenario if they crush oregon this week and all that other stuff happens.

i'm one of the few who prefers this system to a playoff system....


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Natymike

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posted November 13, 2000 08:26 AM

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you know CNNsi did a poll of which was worse,

1. The Electoral College system
2. The BCS

BCS had over 60% of the vote.

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havoc

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posted November 13, 2000 08:30 AM

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Oklahoma Sooners = National Champions, they have already helped me surpass my salary this year and they will win the whole enchilada.

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Mr. T

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posted November 13, 2000 02:34 PM

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Well, the BCS has worked perfectly every year we have had it. People should really wait until the end of the season to judge the BCS. If FSU beats Florida, they will be #2. Miami did beat FSU, but they also lost to Washington. FSU lost to a higher ranked team. Thats why its so close-


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runner

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posted November 13, 2000 03:10 PM

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i hate the 'noles, but does i'm pretty sure that if miami and fsu played next week on a neutral field vegas would install the seminoles as the favorite. i think most unbiased observers would say florida st. is the better team, even though miami eked out a win in front of a raucous home crowd....


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FreakMonster

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posted November 13, 2000 03:37 PM

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For those of you that missed my rant before he it is again.

Washington played 2 ranked teams all year. They beat Miami in September when FSU lost in October when it matters.

Furthermore, my argument is how FSU can be #1 in one of the BCS polls and no one says anything about it?

Secondly, why is it that they were 3 full BCS points ahead of us in the first place? That lead was insurmountable and who have they beaten. Clemson and NC State were garbage and overrated solely for the purpose of boosting FSU's rating. It is all politics. B. Bowden and Lou Holtz and Notre Dame are always going to be favored in the polls.

On the other hand, Miami never gets a break. Ever since Jimmy incorporated the "I am going to kick your ass and rub it in attitude," attitude, They hate Miami!

That is OK. How is a FSU fan trying to justify being ahead of us? We beat their ass! That is the bottom line. You don't hear Huskie fans arguing because they know that their victory was a fluke.

The fact is we are better again and they can't take it. The like to brag about beating up on the High Schools in the ACC and what he did against his son at Clemson (running up the score and leaving the starters in until 5 minutes were left in the game is unexcusable)!

I don't respect Bowden! Nor do I respect a fan who can admit when there is a flaw in the system.

Stop being so damn baised and remember your history. Miami has always been better when the playing field was level.

Now that it is level again, Noles can't take it. They don't know how to deal with not being overwhelming favorites and having the best players at every skilled position. Miami can line up against them straight up and whip their asses and they just can't take it.

Well, if we meet again, and I hope we do, they will have no choice but to take it. And you know where they are going to take it (up the ass)! The same place they took it in October.

To Hell with the BCS. Again, start lobbying for a rematch. We took their pride and shitted on it!

Easy!

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athlete21m

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posted November 13, 2000 06:29 PM

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Not sure if i like it, seems biased for east coast schools, i play ball here and were in the hunt for a game ourselves. well see how it goes, a playoff system would be the best.


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Rex37

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posted November 13, 2000 07:49 PM

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Athlete21 what school you play for and what position?

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Mr. T

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posted November 13, 2000 08:29 PM

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What happened to you Freakmonster? Did a FSU student beat your ass or steal your girl? You have some seious hatred in you which I usually ignore. But when you insult the # 4 winningest coach in NCAA history you have gone to far. How anyone on this planet can say a bad word about Bobby Bowden is beyond me. You might not like the Noles, but what he has done here at FSU has never been done at any other school ever. Next year he will surpass Bear Bryants record and become the winningest NCAA head coach of all time. All of his accomplishments dont even come close to speak of the type of man he is and the lives he has touched. You Freakmonster continually berate and insult Seminole fans and I am fuckin sick of it. Grow the fuck up and get a life-


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ryry

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posted November 13, 2000 09:09 PM

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hey freakmonster,

washington has played 3 ranked teams: miami, oregon, and oregon st. they also have the 2nd hardest schedule in the ncaa...
their victory was no fluke, washington is better than miami!
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slickdadd

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posted November 13, 2000 09:14 PM

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They do have a valid point. With three of those teams being in the top ten, but they lost to one of them. The difference is miami beat the #1 and #2 teams at the time. As far as florida and fsu go, no doubt washington should be ahead of them. Neither fsu or florida has beaten even a top 15 team this year. Its just absurd they are that high.


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runner

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posted November 14, 2000 08:12 AM

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team best win(s) loss
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Miami FSU, VT @Wash
FSU Clem, GT @Miami
Wash Mia, Ore. St. @Ore
Fla. Georgia, Aub? @Miss St.
Ore. Wash, UCLA @Wisc.

i think it's clear from this that florida st. is ranked so highly merely because of their margins of victory. if bobby bowden were TRULY a class act, as someone claimed earlier, he might actually pull his starters before getting ahead by 40+ points. weinke playing in the fourth quarter of some of the recent blowouts was shameful, although i must say it HAS contributed to their being in the hunt for the championship game.

if you throw out margin of victory, washington has at least as good a case as anyone else. their schedule is ranked as the 2nd toughest in the nation and they have only one loss, have beaten two teams currently in the top ten including a head-to-head matchup with the hurricanes.



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Mr. T

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posted November 14, 2000 03:52 PM

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Why would Bowden not want to blow teams out? Hes a nice guy but he coaches to win National Championships. He knows he has to blow teams out to be up in the top 5-

PS Sounds like some serious jealousy over Florida teams. And, FSU and Florida have both beaten teams in the top 15. In fact Clemson was in the top 5 for a while-


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FreakMonster

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posted November 14, 2000 04:10 PM

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Mr. T: I never recalled insulting Bobby Bowden EVER!!! I think he is a great coach. I just have a problem with FSU fans. They are the biggest fucking sore losers. Every time the Gators have beaten the Seminoles all I hear from Seminole fans are excuses. I have never heard a Seminole fan say we got beat fair and square. All Seminole fans think they are unbeatable. If we lose to the Seminoles on November 18th I'm not going to sit here and make excuses why we lost. If we get beat I know it's because the Seminoles are the better team but I can guarantee if the Gators win this one I'll be hearing fucking excuses all day long.

To even mention Bear Bryant to me is an insult. I can't respect any idiot who refers to black people as "one of those." I hope that racist fuck is still burning in hell!

Now for you! If you are an FSU fan, than you are right about me targeting you! You all make me sick with your "I can't accept the fact that we got our asses kicked" attitude.

It is apparent that you are the one who needs to get a life. My brother attended FSU
and I know about Bobby Bowden and what goes on behind the scenes at FSU! I know about the cars, money, abortions, hired officials, hidden incidents, etc. etc...

Please don't try to preach to me about Bobby Bowden. When he passes Eddie Robinson, the all time winningest college head coach, then I will say something about him. I don't know him personally and, unlike yourself, I
don't say negative things about people who I don't know personally.

I am not surprised though. This is indicative of the average idiots who follow team sports and let harmless opinions and facts escalate into something ridiculous.

The "fuck you" comment is totally unwarranted. You apparently aren't fucking anything because if you were, you wouldn't get such a hard dick when a FAN gives his opinion.

I don't know you, idiot, nor do I care to. So, to recap: You should get an education, life, and a sense of competition. Grow up dummy! I am just a fan having fun. If you can't take losing, don't follow the sport. FSU lost!!! Get over it!!


Ryry: So your saying that just because Washington beat Miami that they are the better team so in essence that means Washington is also better then FSU because Miami beat FSU but lost to Washington. OK!!!


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Mr. T

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posted November 14, 2000 04:57 PM

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Your quote from your post Freakmonster: "I dont respect Bowden!". Sore losers? Whos the one always posting anti Seminole shit on here? Do you ever see me posting anti Gator garbage? I said it before and Ill say it again, your a disgrace to Gator fans.


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FreakMonster

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posted November 14, 2000 05:08 PM

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Just because I said I don't respect Bowden doesn't mean I am insulting him!!!

Like I said before I'm just a fan having fun and stating my opinion like the BCS is garbage and Seminole fans for the most part are sore losers. If ya can't take the heat get the fuck out!!!


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ryry

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posted November 14, 2000 06:07 PM

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freakmonster,

the way it stands, yes washington is better than miami. they beat them head to head didn't they. also washington has played several good teams and beat them (except oregon in corvalis which is a tough place to win). for you to say their victory was a fluke is unvalidated...

the BCS blows...

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Mr. T

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posted November 14, 2000 07:49 PM

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Actually, I can stand the heat. I just cant stand you. You really couldnt be any more ignorant or annoying if you tried. Personally, I hope you get your ass kicked all over sweet home Tallahassee this weekend.

BTW- your not a fan. Your one of those weird little people who actually likes to get under peoples skin. Kind of like that short little doctor on ER.

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