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Natural Wonder

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posted November 11, 2000 01:33 PM

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I hate that fat fuck! 2Pac's the man!


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posted November 11, 2000 01:34 PM

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eazy-e


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Lil Juicer

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posted November 11, 2000 01:38 PM

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2pac

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blackhaus1

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posted November 11, 2000 02:02 PM

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Biggie puts him to shame. Its not even a contest.

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bignate73

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posted November 11, 2000 02:44 PM

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b.i.g. is weak.
he had more trouble with his fat ass tongue in his mouth to be able to rap. plus he never came close to tupac as far as "songs with meaning". most of his stuff was reliant on beat and bassline to get him by. dont like him just cause he's east coast.

tupac was very eloquent in his rhymes. i dont know many that were able to portray a message as well as him. plus hes from the WEEESSSTT SIEEEEDDEEEE!

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Steelsoldier

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posted November 11, 2000 02:58 PM

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East Coast rap is king so Biggie gets my vote.

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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted November 11, 2000 03:02 PM

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Since most of you are "Hicked Out" I can see you voting for 2pac, since he is fro the "west side" (but the again you probably like juvenile, then I have lost all respect for you)
Ask any brother who knows about rap and he would tell you that Notorious B.I.G was one of the best lyricist that ever lived.

His work won't be as appreciated as 2pac's simply because his career was cut short. realeasing only 2 albums and a hand full of cameo appereances is hardly a long career.

Biggie inspired a whole movement, the club scene changed due to his records (ask anybody in NY). ofcource some of you would discredit him just because he was Fat, but then you could make the same argument for Big Pun, then I have lost all respect for you.


PS: F U Mista H


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posted November 11, 2000 03:11 PM

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actually, the fact that ya'll are even arguing about two of the most played out commercial fuck-boys shows where you are coming from...ya'll probably own that shaq-fu album...

try ras-kass-
dr. octagon
planet asia
mr. eon
andre

for starts...

beatnuts come hard, you know my motto, so shut the hell up and buy another bottle...


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MUSTANG_18

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posted November 11, 2000 03:53 PM

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2PAC IS THE BEST RAPPER TO EVER LIVE. I FUCKIN HATE BIGGIE

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JustinM

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posted November 11, 2000 03:55 PM

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big poppa

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THE STEEL BEAST

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posted November 11, 2000 06:43 PM

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2PAC IS UNMATCHED.THE ONLY REAL RAPPER OUT THERE........EVERYONE TRIED TO STEAL HIS STYLE.ALSO HIS LYRICS ARE DEEP.2PAC ALSO MADE A FINE ACTOR AND POET.WORK IS BEING DONE PUBLISHING HIS POETRY.ALSO UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS HAS A COURSE DEDICATED TO HIS LYRICS AS AN URBAN POET.BIGGIE TAKES A BACK SEAT TO THIS MAN.

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WHEN I HOLD THE DECK OF CARDS,PEOPLE BACK DOWN.I HAVE NO OPPOSITION.


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madbomber31

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posted November 11, 2000 06:49 PM

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eazy e for christs sake..NWA is fuckin up the program...


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mrflaco

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posted November 11, 2000 07:04 PM

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Tupac was a lyrical damn genius.


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pauly

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posted November 11, 2000 07:05 PM

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Is this a freakin' joke? How can ANYONE think that Fatty was a better lyricist than 2pac? Are you listening to the lyrics? Sure Fatty's got skills but he is second to 2pac. All Eyez on Me is the best rap CD's that have come out to date. Listen to the lyrics. Listen carefully. Even Makeveli has some crazy shit in it. Biggie is awright but 2pac is the man.

DMX is a bad ass too!

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mrflaco

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posted November 11, 2000 07:14 PM

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Anyone heard any of Tupacs unreleased shit?? They're easy to find. Songs like "words to my firstborn", "never be peace", "when thugs cry", and theres a whole shitload more. The under ground albums are usually titled.. Makaveli 2-14. You can't even compare biggie to pac.


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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted November 11, 2000 07:30 PM

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Please don't get me wrong I love that racist bastard 2pac just as much as the rest of you.
his lyrics where politicaly relevant, and listening to his music made me want to "kill witey"

PS: for those of you who don't know, yes 2pac was very openly racist.


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THE STEEL BEAST

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posted November 11, 2000 07:32 PM

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HE SURE WASNT.

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IT IS FORTUNATE FOR THOSE IN POWER,THAT MEN DO NOT THINK.-ADOLF HITLER


WHEN I HOLD THE DECK OF CARDS,PEOPLE BACK DOWN.I HAVE NO OPPOSITION.


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THE STEEL BEAST

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"The white kids had things we never seen. That was the first time I saw there was white people who you could get along with.There I learned that a persons color is meaningless. Before that, I just believed what everybody else said: They were devils. But I loved it. I loved going to school. It taught me a lot. I was starting to feel like I really wanted to be an artist."-2PAC

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IT IS FORTUNATE FOR THOSE IN POWER,THAT MEN DO NOT THINK.-ADOLF HITLER


WHEN I HOLD THE DECK OF CARDS,PEOPLE BACK DOWN.I HAVE NO OPPOSITION.


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BIG RICK ROCK

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" you muderfuckers better get it right, can't make a black life don't take a black life, its ON" -2pac.


" and while the white kids are driving Benz I'm still trying to hold on to surviving friends, and then they wonder why we crazy, I blamed my nother for turning my brother into a crack baby, **We ain't meant to survive this is a set up**, and even though you fed up, you gotta keep your head up"
strickly for my N.I.G.G.A.S.
I'll dig up some more shit later, I'm tired of this shit now.

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JohnnyO

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posted November 11, 2000 07:50 PM

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Aww.. come on.. you all know that Humpty is the greatest.. big ass nose and all! How can he not be?

Who else rhymes about getting busy in the Burger King bathroom! hehehe


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THE STEEL BEAST

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DO YOU KNOW WHAT N I G G A S STAND FOR?IF YOU DONT ILL TELL YOU.NEVER IGNORANT GETTING GOALS ACCOMPLISHED..........................WHEN HE TALKS OF SET UP,HE IS REFERRING TO GOVERNMENT AND AUTHORITIES ESCALATING RASCISM AND THE WAR ON DRUGS.

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IT IS FORTUNATE FOR THOSE IN POWER,THAT MEN DO NOT THINK.-ADOLF HITLER


WHEN I HOLD THE DECK OF CARDS,PEOPLE BACK DOWN.I HAVE NO OPPOSITION.

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BIG RICK ROCK

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posted November 11, 2000 08:15 PM

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Steel, you are going to tell me??
why do you think I put periods between the letters, because I know there is an underlying meaning.

I'm tired, this board has gone from fun to stressful the last week or so, I'm tired of coming here to defend my views, once in a while it is good, but every day post are getting too intense.

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JohnnyO

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posted November 11, 2000 08:18 PM

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I like my beats funky,
I'm spunky. I like my oatmeal lumpy.


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greenhouse

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posted November 11, 2000 08:43 PM

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2Pac is by far more of a intellect to me. I am with The Steel Beast all the way on this one.

"I see no changes all I see is racist faces
misplaced hate makes disgrace to races..."

Or something to that effect, I dont feel that 2Pac was a racist at all.



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GLP

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posted November 11, 2000 09:24 PM

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I never really enjoyed rap but I always liked Dr. Dre Remember The Cronic I got to go out and but that cd.


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posted November 11, 2000 09:31 PM

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Easy motherfucking E.


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BIGGIE WAS FAR BETTER THAN 2PAC, NUFF SAID. NOW AS FAR AS HIP-HOP, REAL UNDER GROUND HIP-HOP NONE OF YA GOT A CLUE. YOU GUYS MIGHT KNOW EVERYTHING AND THEN SOME ON AAS BUT YOU ARE CLUELESS ON REAL HIP-HOP.CHECK OUT THE BEATJUNKIES, DILATED PEOPLES, AFURA, DAFARI, AND PLANET ASIA. THEY COME WITH PHAT BEATS AND SMOOTH RYMES. RAWKUS REC ARE ALSO COMING UP. THAT BIG L ALBUM IS F-ING TIGHT.
OH YEA, special_bill YOU MIGHT BE A REDNECK FROM THE SOUTH BUT I LIKE YOU MUSIC SELECTION!!!(J/K BOUT THE REDNECK THING)

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bignate73

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so am i to understand that because biggee and big pun came up with some ingenius rhymes they are better than tupac? tupac actually said something and was poetic, yet still hard. dr.seuss had some neat rhymes maybe he could have biggee work for him. seems along the same lines. sure flow and rythm are part of it but to be good you have to say something beyond bragging on yourself or telling about everything you have. how about intelligent, creative commentary....oh that sounds like machiavelli to me. "am i clear to you?...how bout now?"

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Dont care for either of them honestly. They dont even compare to lyrical artists such as the RZA, GZA, Butterfly(dig planets), Buckshot, Mos Def, Common and others.

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N.I.G.G.A. is "Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished"

And THUG LIFE is "The Hate You Gave Little Infants, Fuck Everyone"

That's straight from 2Pacs mouth on an interview tape.


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posted November 11, 2000 10:27 PM

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SORRY I LEFT OUT MOS DEF, REPRESENTING RAWKUS REC.

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posted November 11, 2000 11:07 PM

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peace and humptiness forever.


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Diggable Planets, cause I'm cool like that, I'm smooth like that and I flow like that!


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You are all crazy. Im from the NO and the best Lyricist is Mystikal. Check out the old shit he put out before he went nationwide. Unbelievable
Check out Cash Moneys first albums, too.
Bling Bling

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Tupac was educated, he knew what was going on, his rhymes had meaning not just yelling about killing cops, gang bangin' and getting fucked up. He rapped about everything. He was the master. Him and Dre brought about a whole new scene to rap music with Death Row.
Tupac wins hands down.

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west coast has a better beat. 2pac, Ice cube,
Snoop, and God himself Dre.


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2pac is alright, but biggie is much better. after biggie is dre, so sorry 2pac.


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everyone is wrong, the best one out there has always been Ice T, he even he was pushing those hard hitting nitro filled lyrics, he still had the smooth flow.


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2pac had the whole east coast duckin!

"If it wasnt for the west, these rap niggas wouldnt have a vest around they chest"

Biggie had flows, 2pac had flows, more charisma, and connects. I like both of them but 2pac had some "hardcore" rappers running. Mob Deep like a bunch of women when he was spittin at them, JZ now all of a sudden has the balls to mention his name in his dumb ass song He wasnt saying shit back when tupac was in his ass. JD? pleeeze 2pac didnt like the fakers, and their are a bunch. The only bad thing about biggie was puffy.

BRR? hicks? wtf are you talking about? West coast= Hicks? lol yea right uhh oh no I hope you dont call me a wigger! lol

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And Blow what the hell are you talking about? Dre is a MASTER at beat making and laying down some nice tracks, but as a rapper he is above par. No where near either 2pac or Biggie, or a whole list of other rappers that you have and haven't heard of.

Dont get me wrong Dre teams up with some of the best and he lays it out, but as far as lyrics gooo.

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BRR, ur spanish, deal with it. every line out of u u try 2 make everyone think ur this hardcore ghetto child, meanwhile ur from long island, a middle to upper class white island.

ur not black , face the facts, black and spanish peeps aint even close to bein in the same category.


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o yea, ull prolly delete this shit too.

biatches!!!!


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I like Jay-Z

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big poppa gets my vote.

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quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyO:
Aww.. come on.. you all know that Humpty is the greatest.. big ass nose and all! How can he not be?

Who else rhymes about getting busy in the Burger King bathroom! hehehe


Digital Underground JohnnyO. I like him, not the best though... Stop what your doin cause I'm about to ruin the rythm and style that you're used
to. I like funny but yo I'm makin see, so yo world I hope your ready for me...

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