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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted November 08, 2000 12:03 PM

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Glad to see she made it in NY...need more strong women in the senate.... Just thought I'd sahre my joyous congrats


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special_bill

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posted November 08, 2000 12:04 PM

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vomit, yeah she's so strong she lets her husband get blown by fat girls with no reprimand...


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posted November 08, 2000 12:06 PM

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Not too mention she vote to increase your taxes into the 50% range, to implement socialist healthcare and to add more gun control.


I can't believe NewYork screwed itself this bad. Oh well, they will see.


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Austin316

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posted November 08, 2000 12:06 PM

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I have now lost much respect for New York


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posted November 08, 2000 12:14 PM

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I really don't know what the people of New York were thinking. Hillary has NO connections with New York except for the token piece of property. She has never lived there, nothing. I wonder if the guy running against her was that bad? I sure hope they haven't dug their own grave!


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I don't like taxes as much as the next person...but you visit a hospital and look and these pathatic seniors that paid all their life only to have the need for their health care but no its not covered......either taxes go up, government spending is cut in other divisions, or we do a little geriatric-acide....


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posted November 08, 2000 12:18 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by special_bill:
vomit, yeah she's so strong she lets her husband get blown by fat girls with no reprimand...

Let me ask you..if you were going to pursue a political career...as a female in a male dominated society...how would you choose to respond to you husbands, the pres of the US, actions infont of the entire world? how would you "reprimand" him?


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Oh, the seniors, poor old people, they have only had their whole life to make money and save for their fucking retirement. Hillary is a big phoney, and the people of New York should be ashamed of having her for senator.


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posted November 08, 2000 12:21 PM

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I don't agree with all her views, but it is good to see women making strides...

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FtLauderdale

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posted November 08, 2000 12:38 PM

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Hillary makes me physically ill. If I could have picked either Lazio or Bush to win, I'd have gone with Lazio. Do you all realize that we are now doomed to hear Clinton references in the media on a daily basis for many years to come.....I have to go now and vommit


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posted November 08, 2000 12:45 PM

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God save our country!!!!!!


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted November 08, 2000 12:47 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by WODIN:
I don't agree with all her views, but it is good to see women making strides...


I like you more and more eveyrday Your wife is one lucky chica


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special_bill

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don't think im a misogynistic fuckhead...i love women (naked and dancing for crisp singles)...

i just think hillary is repugnant, i mean, jesus, have you seen her ankles?...hello? fatty-bo-batty...

she would never make it as a stripper im afraid....


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Thick dawg

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posted November 08, 2000 01:24 PM

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LMAO at Wodin.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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quote:
Originally posted by special_bill:

i just think hillary is repugnant, i mean, jesus, have you seen her ankles?...hello? fatty-bo-batty......

And Rick Lazio is a hunk a hunk of burning love huh.....not everyone can be as beautiful as you special bill..

But you didn't answer my question my little burrowing lemur


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it is a non-issue with me sweetheart...she knowingly married a scum bag...i don't purport to know how to deal with horrifying embarrassment on the public political stage...i would hope i would make a better decision regarding my mate, especially if i knew i was going to be in the public eye...


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posted November 08, 2000 01:49 PM

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I hope you make a good decision too So what are Thick's chances? Is he still in the running? Are you adding any new canidates? .....


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special_bill

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posted November 08, 2000 02:06 PM

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that was a pretty good answer huh?...ive been reading alot of bertrand russell lately...i think it is beginning to rub off...


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Thick dawg

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posted November 08, 2000 02:08 PM

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Answer the other question Billy. Your britches are screaming my name...


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chesty

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posted November 08, 2000 02:33 PM

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Yeah they had their whole life to save for their retirement but the fucking gov't took their money and promised them they would be taken care of. Hello, they were lied to and just didn't know it. What the hell was social security for? medicare and medicaid? I pay shit loads of money to these programs and there ain't no way hell they could ever cover the cost of a hospital stay or prolonged treatement or retirement.

Wake up Amerika and smell the fucking bacon.

She is worthless puss infected sore on this country that needs to be lanced.


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posted November 08, 2000 02:34 PM

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Thick did you get that one!
STRIDES.... Fuckin suttle humour is lost on you gear heads!

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AGENT SHAGWELL

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quote:
Originally posted by chesty:
Yeah they had their whole life to save for their retirement but the fucking gov't took their money and promised them they would be taken care of. Hello, they were lied to and just didn't know it. What the hell was social security for? medicare and medicaid? I pay shit loads of money to these programs and there ain't no way hell they could ever cover the cost of a hospital stay or prolonged treatement or retirement.


My bad...Chesty you wanna tell that to all those disabled veterns...the govenment just lied...we will not take care of you even though you've given so much for your country...too bad...soo sad...

I kinda feel if the government makes the deal and the citizens follow through on it they gotta find a way....hell thats what our govenments for the people right?


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Shag,

Stop spewing this pointless rhetoric and wake up. Medicare and Medicaid drive the prices up for hospital and drug costs. They know the gov. will pay so they price leech the hell out of the patients. How else can you explain my sister's $12,000 hospital bill for 3 days? This is very well documented, when these programs went into effect the price went through the roof.

The only government for the people is a Libertarian government. By dumping welfare not only do you encourage bums to work, you encourage bums to have friends. Sure there will be charities, but a great friend would be nice to have in a pinch. The government has proven they can do nothing more efficient than the people. All the government does is waste, waste, waste, and continue to take our rights away. The war on drugs has failed miserably and our tax dollars keep getting pumped into a program that could literally send me to jail. Do you call this a government made by and for the people? I sure as hell don't!


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted November 08, 2000 03:16 PM

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Shagwell,

I AM a disabled veteran. Every month I get a check from the government because of this. It does not come from the Social Security trust fund. It comes from the Department of Veterans' Affairs.

How this country treats its Veterans is another issue. Please do not include disabled veterans in your claims unless you have even a hint of a clue of what you are talking about.

In other news, I live in new York. I voted for Lazio. Hillary got elected based on campaigning to her traditional strengths - blacks, Jews, and unions.

She spent the weekend before the election visiting 7 black churches, and apparently they voted for her in big numbers. But it's all a lie - most of these same families will be in a similar socioeconomic predicament in 6 years when her term ends.

You can support whoever you want. But if you were in NY and watched the campaign transpire, you'd probably feel a little different. This woman rode into the Senate on the backs of people she doesn't give a shit about.

Fuck her.



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chesty

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I am a veteran. I still have my ability to earn a living and save, and if I flounder it is my fault no one elses.

If I was injured while in the military they pay me a pension based on the serverity of my injury.

I was injured on active duty and I rate 10% of the highest base pay earned in the Marines. You know what? I turned it down, because someone else can use that money who is worse off.

Don't spout off to me about veterans there darling unless you are willing to pick up a rifle and pack and hump your ass into combat and are prepared to give your life for this country.

Nuff said. the people were lied to, we are being lied to right now.

Wake up Amerika.


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F*CK REPUBLICANS, AND DEMOCRATS!! They're all Socialist, and I agree that a Libertarian government is the only answer to our problems in the 21st century, but I guess we're gonna have to wait another 4 years for an upset, huh!

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Your right Badkins, but whenever it is appropriate be sure to mention the Libertarians to others or tell them to check out www.lp.org Of course I don't suggest getting evangelical about it, that pushes people away. But just let people know your stance whenever the issue is brought up. My goal is to directly or indirectly influece over 1,000 people by the 2004 election.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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d1734...go Libetarian party then...how much percantage of the votes did they get.....It has been and is a majority 2 party system...I wish it wasn't soo....but the facts remain....I don't claim to agree with everything from either party...jsut tend to relate to the thoughts of the democratic over the Republican however

Mattheskywalker.....please do not take offense...I was merely pointing out other areas where the government had promsed and not fully delivered.....I don't feel it something citizens should just accept....politicians lie, but the government word should have some worth as a country

Chesty...honey I can't speak for everyone...because I'm not a male, not black, not hispanic, not jewish...the list goes on...I speak of the miliarty because it is my view and my sister has dedicated many years of her life to it. I don't think you need to be a participate to have respect for those who do serve...go ahead and tell me I'm wrong sugar


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Shag,

how much percantage of the votes did they get

.4%, but they got about 5% of the votes from 18-29 year olds in GA (the future) with no campaigning in a corrupt system. Your statement speaks volumes for your knowledge of the political process. The goal of voting is not to pick a winner, it is to pick the candidate that best conforms to your belief system. I am embaressed to call myself American after yesterday's election. People forgot that the system is designed to pick a candidate, not to vote against the most evil candidate. If you believe a vote to keep someone else out of office will make more difference in the long run over voting for the candidate you believe in then I DARE YOU to show me evidence of that.

It has been and is a majority 2 party system

From here the system will go in one of 2 directions. Either fuse into 1 party until this nation eventually falls to communism, or we will break free and go back to the Libertarian system. BTW, they are pro-choice shag. If you took the time to visit their platform you might find out you are Libertarian too.

I wish it wasn't soo

Then get out there and do something about it

but the facts remain....

What facts?

jsut tend to relate to the thoughts of the democratic over the Republican however

Would you vote Libertarian if you found out you agreed with their platform?

BTW, we won 10 local offices this election. Bout to check to see what they were. The low vote totals this year is the result of people using the stupid flawed logic of "wasted vote theory" instead of picking who they believe in.


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I'm not one of these people who think women sohould cook and do dishes. but if a woman ever made it to presidency the u.s. woud be taken over the world. when that PMS kicks in. WHHOOO. NUKE THE BASTARDS YOU SONOFABITCH!!

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THanks for the info ib I knew the percentage was that low...kinda k=hidden sarcasim....nevermind....anyhow...no I wouldn't vote Libertarian...unfortuantely all my schooling in the sciences makes me a fasts oriented person.....I jsut don't see enough of the masses moving from Democratic or republican to another party which would account for enough percentage fo the vote to have a chance......kinda like playing the satistical odd....odds are the partys to recieve the most percentage of votes and become the next pres will be rep or dem...I'd rather have demo

"You can't always get what you want...but ya get what ya need"--Rolling Stones

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The government's role is to protect private property, not take care of people with endless programs.

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inquest-don't forget bare foot and pregnant....

Steel like his women to do laundry, cook, blow him, and then do the dishes with her tounge....

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no I wouldn't vote Libertarian...unfortuantely all my schooling in the sciences makes me a fasts oriented person

Your schooling obviously never told you that 90% of economists say that Liberal agenda such as the minimum wage hurts the economy including several nobel prize winners if you were a facts oriented person you would research all sides of the story instead of being a brainwashed sheep of the left-wing.

I jsut don't see enough of the masses moving from Democratic or republican to another party which would account for enough percentage fo the vote to have a chance.

The Libertarian party is growing every year, but if you rely on the left-wing media (of which 89% voted for Clinton in 92') you will never find that out.

odds are the partys to recieve the most percentage of votes and become the next pres will be rep or dem

More nonsense, what do you know. Did you even read what I wrote last post?

I'd rather have rep

Huh?? Al Gore is a democrat



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dl175...ok you got me....you wanna know the REAL reason I didn't vote Libertarian....because Austin Powers is a democratic....gotta stick with my man...after all he shags like a minx


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Listen, this is what I have to say about this one.

FUCK NEW YORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone that has ever said anything derogatory

about Arkansas and Bill Clinton now YOU all

have a fucking lesbian redneck for your state

CONGRATULATIONS

And yes I do live in Arkansas.


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Well, you got me there shags. If that is your reason then I guess it is hard to rebut. But do me a favor, if you have no knowledge of politics don't pretend like you do.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

Sorry to say it, but.....YOU ARE AN IDIOT

You get consistently burned by everyone on this thread. Almost all of your statments get shot down. You then say that the reason you didn't vote Libertarian is because "Austin Powers is a democratic....gotta stick with my man...after all he shags like a minx" (add signature smiley face 3 or 7 times) Like d1734 said, take the test and see, you might be surprised. If you "don't see enough of the masses moving from Democrat or republican to another party which would account for enough percentage fo the vote to have a chance" then you must see why they wouldn't get enough of the vote......people like you. Even if slowly people changed their votes it is progress, isn't it?

It's good to see that at least some people here don't have their heads shoved up their asses.

Back to you d1734.


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Great point Man-O-War. Another point I'd like to mention is that when the Libertarian party starts getting 5-8% in national elections, you are going to see a snowball effect. People like Shags who only jump on the bandwagon when someone has a chance to win will start to take notice. I predict the Libertarian party's growth something like this:

2004 - 5% in presidential election, first Libertarian Senate member

2008 - 15% more senate and house seats

2012 - 20%+ serious contendors for the White House

2016 - White House victory

This depends on alot of factors. This assumes a best case scenerio, basically the LP starts getting into debates on national TV, etc. I know I can't predict the future, but this is my optimistic view of what is possible.

"In other news of interest to Libertarians, former LP presidential candidate Ron Paul won re-election to the U.S. House (14th District) in Texas as a Republican with 60% of the vote."

from www.lp.org

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posted November 08, 2000 07:40 PM

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Some of you guys really really need a HUG.


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People need to be able to trust the word of the gov't? The people of this country are the gov't, not the people we elect. They are to represent the will of the people and I believe our founding fathers are pissing in their graves right now.

Why did you vote democratic? I am kinda confused on that one. But let me say this no matter what your party affiliation, as long as you vote this way or that because that is the way you always have or your parents tell you to vote that way, then there will never be the change the American people are looking for.

As for the military, you said the government abandoned us military veterans. Wrong, in fact because of them I was able to buy my first house, brand new and bigger than I could have ever afforded by going with a conventional loan. In fact I would never have been able to have bought house if it were not for the VA loan. The Marines and the VA have never abandoned me and never will.


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Austin316

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posted November 09, 2000 12:09 AM

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Id rather pay to help the vets then all the welfare bitches


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SHES ALOT BETTER THEN HER HUS BUT I DONT THINK SHE CAN SUCK GOOD D%$#% ,, be careful she dont become the first lady president,, some day


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vomit, yeah she's so strong she lets her husband get blown by fat girls with no reprimand...

No PUBLIC reprimand special_bill. You should know when you're dealing with women that no matter how long it takes there will be some concession.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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quote:
Originally posted by d1734:
Well, you got me there shags. If that is your reason then I guess it is hard to rebut. But do me a favor, if you have no knowledge of politics don't pretend like you do.

No problem sugar...just as long as you do me a favor sweet cheeks and KISS MY ASS


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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quote:
Originally posted by Portugese Man-O-War:
AGENT SHAGWELL

Sorry to say it, but.....[b]YOU ARE AN IDIOT

You get consistently burned by everyone on this thread. Almost all of your statments get shot down. You then say that the reason you didn't vote Libertarian is because "Austin Powers is a democratic....gotta stick with my man...after all he shags like a minx" (add signature smiley face 3 or 7 times) Like d1734 said, take the test and see, you might be surprised. If you "don't see enough of the masses moving from Democrat or republican to another party which would account for enough percentage fo the vote to have a chance" then you must see why they wouldn't get enough of the vote......people like you. Even if slowly people changed their votes it is progress, isn't it?

It's good to see that at least some people here don't have their heads shoved up their asses.

Back to you d1734.[/B]


Listen I put that last staement in as a source of humor...me and others obviously disagree...and thats find with me....to argue over subjective opinion is futile...and it gets a little old...so I respect others views and stand by my own. Too bad others can't show the same repect huh

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Gilbyag

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posted November 09, 2000 10:50 AM

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huh...


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posted November 09, 2000 01:01 PM

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You put that statement about Austin Powers in because you had no legitimate answer for the questions posed to you. Arguing over "subjective opinion" is only futile when people can't listen to other's opinions and shape an opinion of their own based on research and debate. These people are called puppets. I give respect where it is due. Don't come around expecting people to give you respect without earning it. I'll respect your views when they develop into legitimate beliefs, with support behind them. Until then, Jim Henson would be proud.

Puppet.

BTW - Your spelling is atrocious. It wouldn't be so bad normally, but you are trying to argue an intellectual point.


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d1734

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posted November 09, 2000 02:14 PM

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to argue over subjective opinion is futile

some things are subjective opinion, but small government works better than big government. That's a fact and can be proven. Like I said, I dare you to prove me wrong. Your just a person who talks out of your arse with nothing to back it up.


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posted November 09, 2000 02:21 PM

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I once saw this exchange on a BBS:

guy1: Harry Browne would look like a radical next to George W or Al Gore in a debate.

guy2: So would Thomas Jefferson and George Washington.

Nuff' said.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted November 09, 2000 02:25 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by d1734:

Nuff' said.

For once I agree with you !!!


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d1734

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posted November 09, 2000 02:30 PM

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I bet your one of the people that voted for Pat Buchanan by accident.


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted November 10, 2000 07:51 AM

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Shagwell, Hillary's a dank stiky dishrag.

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posted November 10, 2000 08:03 AM

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She is a travesty and an insult. Fuck that woman making strides shit, she is a step backwards and she is uglier than a retarded baboon.

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