Help me here.

Blacks tend to overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. It is largely because of this fact that Hillary Clinton has a chance to win the Senate election in New York, and also a major reason that Gore will carry the state of New York.

Can you offer some insight as to why that is?

I don't understand, so enlighten me. it seems that the problems faced by blacks have not changed in the last 8 years under a democratic President, and that progress has been overwhelmingly slow regardless of who is elected to Congress or the Presidency.

So why do black so consistently vote the "Big D"?

Any other Gore backers?

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Again, I find most people who vote democratic feel that they are being attacked if questioned why? Can they not stand up for their beliefs and proudly proclaim this is who I support?

But, still, the situation of many blacks has not recently improved despite this "prosperity" we are having.

Can you be specific as to what issues you mean? Are you talking about hate crime bills? I personally see them as silly - what's the difference in the race fo your victim. Thos bills essentailly say that punishment shouldbe harsher if the victim is another race, and that seems like a race divider if I have ever heardof one. that is saying that some lives are worth more than others.

I'm not trying to bust your balls - seriously I'm not - I just am curious as to why there seems to be a voting block.

What issues are the Republican stances so unfavorable to blacks on?

I'd also like to hear from any other black board members.

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Here is a story from a while ago. I was in the Marines and stationed in Millington, TN. I had been hearing on the news for quite sometime about how the white people are forcing the blacks to live in the ghettos, full of trash and shit. One day I was driving down the street and noticed a black woman carrying a 64 oz thirstbuster, and when she finished, she just through the cup down on the sidewalk. At that point I lost respect for those arguments. Now white dudes do the same thing, but they don't bitch that the blacks or rich or whatever are keeping them down and making them live in dirty ghettos.

The republicans have been more for education especially of the minorities than the liberals who just keep screaming more welfare programs, more money, to those who don't want to work.

I've said before and I say it again, it no one's damn business what I vote anyway. That's why it's a secret vote.

Now this is off the mark and again I asked who you supported and why, if you don't want to say then fine, but you don't need to get pissy about it which is what I and others have said liberals get when they can't defend their position. This is not an attack on you so don't take it that way.

Bush may not support abortion, but he won't have it outlawed. That would be political suicide and more wood for the democratic fire. If I were a candidate I would be the same way. I think abortion is complete bullshit and should be looked down upon, but not having the right to choose your path in life is an even greater tragedy.

Anyone who looks exclusively apon the abortion issue as their only reason for voting is a complete moron anyway.

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As for abortion, I have stated my opinions on it, suffice it to say it should not be called pro choice, but instead, pro murder.

Has no liberal payed attention to what has been going on? Gore Barely got through school and dropped out of law school. Bush had no problem getting through school. Again, emotionalism "bush is a dumbass" Why? I ask.

According to the 10th Amendment, any powers not explicity granted the federal government by the Constitution are leftto the states. You won't find the word "abortion" in the Constitution. Roe vs Wade was an example of Supremem Court judges legislating from the bench.

EliteLifter, Gore's Dad was a Senator, and Gore went to private schools his whole life, himself as well as Bush a child of privilege. Neither of them had the same admissions difficulties others might have.

So we have had 2 possible Democrat supporters here. F/N Show does not want to explain his vote, which is his right, and Sailor Girl has thrown in the towel.

Gore, cause he looks better than Bush, thats why. Bush looks like a little homeless bum.

YOUR VOTE WILL BE AS GOOD AS MINE!!!!!!!!!

His proposed tax-cuts are not necessary at this juncture in US economic history. Tax-cuts usually raise interest rates and that reduces savings (especially during prosperous times).

Gore is also not concerned with the working and lower middle class. He also is involved in banning androstione and other steroid pre-cursors.

The truth of the matter is that the important vote is for your Congressman since he/she will be making most of the impact on your everyday life.

Concentrate on the important votes. Vote for Congressmen that will help you in your everyday life.

In a past htread, you claimed that you made $227K last year. Given that, I find it hard to believe you would vote for Gore.

I smell something.

If he were not a "Bush" he would have enjoyed a community college education (no offence to the brothers who attend community college).

Sailor Girl. Good job showing us just how feeble minded you are. It's always nice to see someone who develops there opinions based on what a critic says in a magazine. You are just another zombie to the media. Congrats!

Here is a good question for our democratic friends on this board. Do you even know the basic ideology and stances that the democratic and republican party stand for? I bet you don't. But please feel free to humor us. I would love to hear what you have to say.

It's funny to see just how many democrats make the "switch" once they realize what "their" party actually supports and represents.

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As Ralph Nader says (Buchanan too I believe), the 2 major candidates are bought and paid for. If you don't think Al Gore has just as many special interests to protect as Bush, you are simply in denial.

Another fact. The government has multiple page reports proclaiming what a great success Texas has been in recent times, then they turn around and slam him in the debates on his record. What do you think about that?

Again, the Democrats have no real substance. If they say they "read something" it is from as far in left field as it gets.

But comon people. We are on a website where lots of us are for steroids (and other drugs) being legalized. The most emphatic way to tell Washington you don't want a war on drugs is to vote for a candidate that will end the drug war.

I was just pointing out the facts.

There is no overwhelming evidence that Texas is any better off since Bush has been governor. And when you use the term "government" you should actually say "the Republicans" when you say the government has multiple page reports on Texas' "success".

NM, just rechecked and I do believe Bush would spend more overall. anyway I need some sleep, g night all.

Vote for Gore more goverment lose more rights, lose your guns, and the military will keep getting weaker, and they will censor everthing you listin to and watch.

Vote for Bush less goverment keep your guns strong military and less chance of losing personal freedoms

5setsofsix,
Tax cuts on business do not lead to capital investment. Instead they lead to downsizing and increased profits.

Economics seems very illogical but that is what politicians count on when they spout their bullshit.

And another thing. Whether it was due to that particular article or not, it is obvious that your opinion on Bush has been influenced by the media. Don't tell me you came up with that brilliant opinion on your own, because I know you did not. If you have a problem with him, then attack his views and stances on the important issues, not his character. It's obvious however, that you don't know anything true about the man or the issues, so maybe you should call it quits on this post.

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Ought of 48 posts I have not seen one gore supporter give a logical argument for their choice. I have heard the intelligent replies, he's a dumbass, rolling stone said so, and so forth , so my original thought stands.

I do believe Bushes grades were much higher than gores. Plus he made it through law school, and gore dropped out.

2thick is right on who really has the power, but remember, the dude in charge has a lot of influence.

Most other govt's around the world are nervous about bush cause they don't know how he is, gore they have bought and paid for.

Bush is a fucking MORON.
unlike sailor girl I will back up my claims.

Bush mannaged and ran to the ground 3 of his daddys business, 3 Companys wich he poorly managed and ran to the ground proves he is a shitti Business man.

At an intervie he was asked diferent questiuons about who is the prime minister of this country and who is the president of that one, I think opne of the questios he couldn't answer was "who is the president of Russia" ofcource he failed to answer most of them.

He refuses to talk about how he used Cocain in his party years.

He was arrested for drunk driving (nuff said)

He challenged his father Bush.SR to a fist fight, yes he called him out and challenged his father to a fight.

he biggest rumor whch just surfaced and I'm hopping will blow up before Tuesday is about how he got a lover pregnant and then preassured her into having an abortion, but now he want to stand against abortion.

In the debates he stated that if ellected pressident he would do his best to make sure that if RU486 is potentialy health hazardous then he would have this medicin banned from the USA. this is complete bullshit!!

RU486 has been in use in Europe for over 12 years, what fucking reseachers is he going to pay off to come up with bogus data claiming it is not safe so that he can have this drug banned, just to satisfy the demands of the special interest Religious groups that sponsor his ass.

It was under his daddy's pressidency that Anabolic Steroids became illegal.

My point of view is: Gore is the lesser of the 2 evils.

PS: My grammar sucked cause I just got out of bed, deal with it.

PPSS: I'm not a Democrat nor a Republican, But Bush is just a fucking moron, and it bothers me that he could actualy be incharge of the most powerful country in the world.

Mark my words, you will see how this country goes to shit if Bush is elected president, I hope all you mofos are still on the board 2 years from now so I can say, I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

But just out of curiosity:

Bush made $10million on the original $600,000 investment on the Texas Rangers. Doesn't sound all that bad. Regardless, what does business skill have to do with politics? Gore has been a career politician, and has no idea at all what running a business entails. At least with Bush, there is the possibility he learned from his mistakes. Gore never even tried.

Bush's lack of understanding of foreign situations needs to be corrected. Still, I'd rather have him turn the matter over to his advisors than Gore sell us to China.

He may or may not have used cocaine. The minimum age to be President is 35. There is a reason for that. people make mistakes when they are young. I've been arrested twice but I learned from that. Bush in his 50s is not Bush in his twenties. Gore too was a regular weed user at that age so I don't think this is a big deal.

he got a DUI. 24 years ago. Are you the same person you were 24 years ago? Were you born 24 years ago? He actually got pulled over for "driving too slwoly" and blew a .10 on the spot. In NY, that wouldn't even get you arrested, since the roadside test doesn't mean anything. Did I mention it was 24 years ago?

He called his father out to a fist fight. BRR, you ever been really pissed off? Like raging pissed? We've all been there, and said or done things we regret. So what he called his Dad out to a fight? You've never been pissed at your Dad?

RU486 is not going to become illegal. But admittedly, his answer to that question was typical political wrangiling to alienate as few voters as possible. All politicans do it.

His Dad signed the AS control act. This would be an issue if Bush SR was running, but he isn't. That's as strange as criticizng Gore's father's votes in the Senate.

A lot of your points don't really hold up all that well. Are you in a union? They seem to be very pro-Gore. Are higher taxes a concern for you? They are for me. There just seems to be some undeserved misgivings toward Bush and I wonder where you are getting them from.

Either way it's your vote andf Gore will probably win NY anyway. Please don't tell me you're going to vote for Hillary Clinton though.

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About challenging his father to a fight, some of you may take this lightly, however me being Latino that is not something you would ever do, raising my hand on any of my parents would be the most despicable act on the planet, and anybody that challenges their father to a fight in my opinion should be beaten into a bloody pulp. (there are exceptions to this, if the father comes home drunk to beat on the mother then there is a reason, but as the story goes he challenged his father to fight when his dad questioned him about coming home intoxicated)

As far a being a shitty business man, well you know better than to think that doesn't influece the presidency, YES his Advisors make the Policy and run the "Business" BUT I DON"T GET TO VOTE FOR WHO HIS ADVISORS WILL BE!
neither do I with Gore but at least I get some sence that Gore knows what he is doing and it was the Democratic party advisors that got the economy where it is today.

NO I'm not voting in the NY elections.

Hilary Clinton is a dumb stupid bitch who is trying to distance herself from her husband, why not just divorce him??
and I would not like all those fucking hick ass Arkansas People running New York, and you can bet your ass she will bring all her advisors, Billy Bob, Tommy, Jonny and the rest of those hicks to run the big Apple.

And Latzio is another fucking Moron who Looks and Acts like he should be driving a Camaro or a Cadilac with a baseball bat in the trunk, He had his nose so far up Nutt Gringrige's (SP?) ass that you couldn't tell where Latzio ended and Nutt began, then the fucker goes on the debate and denies being Nutt's Butt buddy, yeah after that racist Fuck got "dishonorably discharged" from the senate by his own people now all his ass kissers wanna cat like they never liked the guy FUCKING HIPOCRITS:
I'm so worked up right now I can't even spell well I never could, but i bet neither can Bush yet he is going to be president.

FUCK ALL POLITICAL PARTIES, THIS GOVERNMENT IS NO LONGER FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE, NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS AND THE BIG COMPANYS, THE GREEDY FUCKS WHO WAN'T TO FILL THEIR WALLETS WHILE BOTH ME AND MY WIFE WILL HAVE TO WORK TO LIVE AN AVERAGE LIFE AND MAYBE BUY A HOME WICH WE WILL SPEND THE REST OF OUR ADULT LIVE PAYING FOR.

OUR GRANDPARENTS COULD AFFORD TO HAVE 5-6 KIDS WHILE ONLY THE DAD WORKED AND GRANMA BAKED COOKIES AND RAISE THE KIDS, NOW I'LL BE LUCKY IF I CAN PUT 2 KIDS THRU COLLEGE, WHILE ME AND MY WIFE WORK FULL TIME.

Than why during the primaries was McCain's short temper a relatively big issue?

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There is a simple solution to this, vote Libertarian. Every vote for Browne is a vote to stop the drug war, and to reduce the size of the government. If you don't like him, hell, vote for Nader. He may be for big government, but he at least has the competence to make it work and be efficient.

I got arrested twice - it doesn't make me a criminal. Just displayed a real big lack of thought, which in your teens and early 20's in not uncommon.

There is a reason, after all, the one can't even be considered for President until they are 35.

So all the shit that happened to each guy 20 years ago doesn't mean shit to me. Nor should it to you.

MR H: McCain's temper was an issue for two reasons: First, the media played way way up on it. Secondly, it was something that was an issue in the here and now, not 24 years
ago.

I really admired McCain. I can't say that about these guys.

BRR,

If Lazio looks like he should have a Camaro and a bat in the trunk, then he's a perfect representative of LI.

LOL!!!!

In the October 3, 2000 Presidential debate, Gore said he'd received a letter from the father of a 15-year-old Sarasota High School student. "Her science class was supposed to be for 24 students," Gore said the man told him. "She is the 36th student in that classroom," Gore related, and he said the father sent him a picture of the girl in her class. "They can't squeeze another desk in for her, so she has to stand during class," Gore told the audience. Gore used the illustration to drive home the point that he wants the federal government "to make improvement of our school the number one priority."

However, Daniel Kennedy, Principal of Sarasota High School complained that Gore had exaggerated the overcrowding. "We have a brand-new campus. It's like a college. It's one of the top schools in the nation," he stated. The school is well under capacity and has plenty of space and desks. If Kailey didn't have a desk the first few days of school, he said, it was because $100,000 of new science equipment was sitting in boxes and taking up space on opening day, and there were plenty of lab stools to sit on.

During the October 3, 2000 Presidential debate, Gore mentioned 79-year-old Winifred Skinner, who has become the campaign's mascot for his Medicare prescription-drug program. "In order to pay for her prescription drug benefits, she has to go out seven days a week, several hours a day, picking up cans," Gore said. "She came all the way from Iowa in a Winnebago with her poodle in order to attend here tonight."

However, Skinner doesn't need to collect cans for her medication. Her son, Earl King, who formerly owned his own business and now lives on an 80-acre ranch and describes his lifestyle as "comfortable," has offered repeatedly to help her make ends meet. She continually declines his offers. In addition, the Winnebago Gore referred to, as well as the gas, was paid for by the Gore campaign. Five campaign workers accompanied Skinner, a longtime Democrat and former union organizer.

In the Presidential debate on October 3, 2000, Governor George W. Bush gave credit to the Federal Emergency Management Service (FEMA) for their work in Texas during fires and floods in Parker County. Vice President Al Gore said he had traveled to see the damage with FEMA director James Lee Witt, "I was down there when the fires broke up." Carl Cameron, of Fox News first reported that Gore had not, in fact, been to Texas with Witt to look at the damage in Parker County. Gore WAS in Texas, not not to help FEMA -- A Federal News Service schedule showed that he was at a fundraiser. FEMA officials said Witt never went to Texas to deal with the 1998 fires.
"If James Lee was there before or after, then you know, I got that wrong then," Gore said on ABC's Good Morning America on October 4, 2000.

At a Sept. 22 press conference, Gore stated "I've been a part of the discussions on the strategic reserve since the days when it was first established." However, President Ford established the Strategic Petroleum Reserves when he signed the Energy Policy and Conservation Act (EPCA) on December 22, 1975 � two years before Al Gore became a congressman

Vice President Al Gore, reaching for a personal example to illustrate the breathtaking costs of some prescription drugs, told seniors in Florida last month that his mother-in-law pays nearly three times as much for the same arthritis medicine used for his ailing dog, Shiloh. "That's pretty bad when you have got to pretend to be a dog or a cat to get a price break" he stated. Gore's mother-in-law does pay more for her medication, but the generic brand of the drug, which 85% of Americans now use as a cheaper alternative, costs half as much, or one and a half times what it costs for the pooch - not three times. In addition, given the complexities of the marketplace, and the steps people take to get a better deal, it can work the other way around: Pets "pretending" to be humans. The Gore campaign also admitted that it lifted those costs not from his family's bills, but from a House Democratic study, and that Gore misused even those numbers: They represent the manufacturer's price to wholesalers, not the retail price of the brand-name product.
Drug costs often cost more for humans, though, because they are more heavily regulated. Jeff Trewhett, the spokesman for the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers Association of America, said the higher costs for the human version of patented drugs is justified because the research, development, and approval costs can surpass $500 million per drug. But once the drug is approved for humans, the cost to test and approve it for animals is minimal, he said. Interestingly enough, Gore is proposing more regulations on on top of what we have now. Our food also costs 3 times as much as the dog's... will Gore say that we have to pretend to be dogs to get affordable food?

MR. RUSSERT: Senator, what did you think of the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign's approach to fund-raising?
MR. BRADLEY: I thought that a lot of people in politics were embarrassed by it, quite frankly. I think Republicans and Democrats were disgraceful in that fund-raising program in 1996. Now, I think Al had the right point. It's the lessons that you learn. In 1990, I raised a lot of money for my Senate race. I raised too much money. I discovered that you can have too much money in a political campaign. I think that's what George Bush is going to discover. Now, in Al's case, the attorney general investigated it fully and determined that an independent counsel was not needed. And so - and the Republicans might make that an issue, but that's the reality. But I think the question is what you learn from this. And what I learned is that you've had seven years to actually do something on campaign-finance reform, and nothing has happened. I remember visiting the White House in 1993, Democratic Congress, both Senate and House, and urging the president to act on campaign-finance reform. Now, I don't know if you were in the loop or not, but the fact of the matter is that no action took place. And when we say what we...
VICE PRES. GORE: Because all the Republicans voted against it.
MR. BRADLEY: ...what we need to do...
VICE PRES. GORE: And they controlled the Senate.
MR. BRADLEY: ...what we - where was the effort made, Al, in 1993?
VICE PRES. GORE: We got every single Democratic senator to vote for it.

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet"

"I seek this office to restore the rule of law and respect for common sense to the White House." ...

"Americans in every region and in both political parties have been shaken by the betrayal of public trust ... and the dishonesty of the public officials."...

"Any government official who ... lies to the United States Congress will be fired immediately."
(Source: Seattle Times, June 29, 1987)
Gore must be talking about the standards he'd apply to a Republican White House! After all, he referred to Clinton as "one of our greatest presidents" at the White House Post-Impeachment Pep Rally on December 19, 1998.

"My first pledge will be to restore integrity to the White House. And I'll fire anyone who has lied to the American people or the United States Congress."
(Source: Al Gore, in a February 2, 1988 presidential debate)

Finding himself talking to the controversial rock star Courtney Love at a Hollywood party, Mr. Gore attempted to charm her by telling her he was a fan. Rather than just accepting the easy compliment, Love cross-examined him.

"He goes 'I'm a really big fan'," said Love. "And I was like 'Yeah, right. Name a song, Al'." The answer came limply back: "I can't name a song, I'm just a really big fan."

Back in 1994, Al Gore called Oliver North "the colonel of untruth" and said Mr. North was counting on political contributions from "the extra-chromosome right wing."

"Gore smiled and admitted that he, too, has trouble turning on a computer - let alone using one."

Gore supporters, you can try all you want, but you can't distort the truth to me. you wanna argue about who has more credibility?

Abortion: If a couple doesn't want to have kids then either use some sort of contraceptive or not do it at all. I for one think that if a girl gets pregnant should go through w/ the pregnancy w/ the exception of rape victims and those RARE cases when its in the mother's or parents' best interest. Lets use the example of a married couple has 3 kids. The wife is pregnant w/ the 4th. If the mother goes through w/ the pregnancy it is likely that she won't live and the husband won't be able to support the 4 kids by himself. More details could be involved, but I'm tired and don't feel like getting into it much more.

Guns: A constitutional right. Want to keep it that way. I plan on owning a gun when I'm of age and will be trained on how to use it properly, so I don't want someone telling me I can't have one.
-If a person decides to not rob a store b/c it is possible that the clerk has a gun. Then its purpose has been served. But if there is a law saying the clerk can't own a gun and lets say hes law abiding and doesn't, then the other person would not think as hard about robbing the place and could wind up killing the clerk.

Capital Punishment: I'm for it. Murderers should be sentenced to death for their crimes. They don't deserve to be fed all their meals b/c if they aren't its cruel and unusual punishment. Are the crimes they committed not uncruel and unusual acts? They don't deserve shit, except to die.

No flames please. I call them like I see them and thats how I see it; I ain't pressing my views on anyone.

Unions, Thanks to unions the price of a car not costs 20,000 for the avg piece of shit, meat cost upwards of 10$+ a pound, I pay over three dollars for a gallon of milk.

Oh ya, here is Gore on drugs:

Clinton-Gore drug policy: spending up; drug use down. (Oct 7)

Science doesn�t say medical marijuana is proper. (May 12)

Mandatory weekly drug testing for state prisoners & parolees. (May 3)

Drug treatment programs for every addict who wants one. (May 3)

Lead a national crusade against drugs. (May 2)

Loosen restrictions on medical marijuana. (Mar 5)

Tougher drug policies; fight drugs in Colombia. (Mar 5)

Did pot when young, like young people do. (Jan 24)

Decrease disparities in punishing crack vs. powder cocaine. (Nov 1999)

Drug efforts are beginning to pay off; we must do more. (Feb 1999)

Community disconnectedness is a source of drug problems. (Feb 1999)

Drug Control Strategy: More $, more enforcement, more TV ads. (Feb 1999)

After-school programs prevent most drug use. (Mar 1998)

Here is Bush on Drugs:

$2.8B more for Drug War, for state treatment & abroad. (Oct 7)

Clinton-Gore drug policy is inconsistent and has failed. (Oct 7)

Feds must help border counties fight drug traffickers. (Jun 7)

Supports military package to Colombia to fight drug supply. (Mar 5)

Stronger penalties for first time cocaine possession. (Mar 5)

Identifies with former addicts based on former alcoholism. (Jan 22)

Full background checks on drug use for all appointees. (Aug 1999)

Parents make up for past by warning kids against drugs. (Aug 1999)

Supports tough drug laws as well as drug education programs. (Dec 1998)

Encourages abstinence from tobacco, drugs or alcohol. . (Dec 1998)

These candidates are both a disgrace. I get angry just reading those positions. THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE!!!

God dam the idiots that demonize drug use!!!

Sending a drug user to jail is the equivalent of sending a smoker or alcohol drinker to jail.

God bless the motherfucking tobacco and alcohol lobbies!!!!!(SARCASTICALLY)

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The CEO, CFO, COO...etc. of each of those unionized companies makes multi-millions per year plus stock options. If you are going to complain about the unionized workers, you should also take a look at upper-management.

BTW- If a person were making 10 million a year (and that is a conservative estimate) at 60 hours per week then they would be paid $3400 per hour. Hmmmmm That is a bit more than they deserve...don't you think?