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Frackal

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posted October 22, 2000 11:31 PM

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Sounds kinda weird, but in the course of my young life, specifically between the ages of 14-16, I took probably anywhere from 100-200 hits of acid, whether it was blotter, cube, or gelcap.

Towards the end of my little drug binge, which lasted from 7th-10th grade and included weed, shrooms, meth, acid, coke, crack, and dxm, I began to basically lose my mind....kind of.

You could say I became 'permatripped', meaning **every single day, all day,** I felt like I had just come down from a 5 hit trip. I felt extremely brain dead, achy, and I would still have visuals along with paranoia, and a strong lack of mind-body coordination.

In a sense, I became basically partially retarted. Funny as it may sound, it was quite the opposite. Before getting into drugs, I was one of, if not THE top student in all my classes. I am not bragging when I say that I have a higher than average intelligence, especially in the left part of the brain.

This 'permatripping' of course was accompanied with extreme depression. I debated killing myself to end it, but was both to scared and too worried about how my family would react to do it. So I lived with it for about 2 years, trying to figure out a way to make it stop. I finally, but slowly suceeded.

I truly believe that the two things that were responsible for ridding myself of this insanity were the combination of changing my environment, (new school, new friends) and exercise, specifically running. I think it literally got the blood flowing and washed all that shit out.

Anyway, I've blabbered on long enough, my main point to this little life story was to see if anyone else had had an experience similar to mine. It is the worst thing I've ever gone through as of yet, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.


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Frackal

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posted October 22, 2000 11:34 PM

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Also, I would like to hear your opinions on what the actual cause of this was, whether it was pyschological, (probably) or actual tripping caused by lsd buildup in my system....or whatever..


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Natymike

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posted October 22, 2000 11:41 PM

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pretty fucked up story frack, just goes to show you that serious drugs get you nowhere. I have never done anything harsher than weed, but I know it takes a strong person to get off all that shit. Good to hear you turned your life around.

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Stumpy

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posted October 23, 2000 12:21 AM

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I had a similar experience with acid in high school and my early days in college. I was a good athlete (varsity wrestling) and a pretty darn good student (an AP kid, two A's short of being a valedictorian). Tired of being branded a nerd, I started hanging out with some of my less than bright acquaintances, and soon enough partying on E and sud became my week-end hobby. One day I took a single hit of acid, and literally went crazy and had to spend the next two weeks in rehab while the staff of the clinic kept pumping me full of tranquilizers in order to bring my ass down. Eventually I came to my senses and realized (after some intensive psychotherapy) why the fuck I went crazy. It wasn't the acid, it was me. Drugs act as catalysts and nothing else; they can't cause anything unless one is predisposed to mental illness. Since then, I've come to accept the fact that I'm a bit unstable. But it's OK; living in denial and blaming your problems on drugs is far worse, 'cause you would be lying to yourself and no one else.

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d1734

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posted October 23, 2000 12:34 AM

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1 question: what caused you to go on a 2 year drug binge? or 3, however long it was.

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Slopain

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posted October 23, 2000 12:36 AM

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I like frackal have had a 'checkered' past heheh. I disagree with stumpy on the predisposed to mental illness thing. Thats what wed all tell each other to sooth thoughts of any of us going crazy anytime soon. I used a lot, a whole lot for about 3 years or so. It was constant. I had some friends that were with me, and its wierd wed all be using the same amount of shit..but it was obvious who the true 'addicts' were, the dudes that almost had an orgasm after a good line of pure coke - even at that point Id be like damn thats depressing. I lost it for a while, always able to function but paranoia and depression ran rampant.

I still sometimes have minny flashbacks, at times especially first thing in the morning or after strenous endurance type activities. They arent near how they once were but still happen. Its little things, I brought it up to one of my homies that used to drop with me, and hes like 'yeah man I love it like a free hit' I remember thinking WTF? They were the funnest and most depressing times of my life. Easy to get into hard to get out of. Still got friends stuck, and theres nothing I can do or say, I act cool with them and just wait for them to get themselves out of it.

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Laserdude

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posted October 23, 2000 01:10 AM

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Well I have had my experience with all of the psychdelics. Well over a thousand trips, and I have to agree that drugs don't cause a person to go crazy.The person already has personalty problem that when exposed to drugs can cause them to act out the personality defect.

Well I have to go and take my halidol right now before I have another episode.

Later Bros


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Enanthate

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posted October 23, 2000 01:36 AM

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LSD works by mimicing or inhibiting serotonin in the brain. Most anti-depressants (prozac, paxil etc.) affect the serotoninogenic system as well this may explain your depression.

Just a theory


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special_bill

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posted October 23, 2000 03:16 AM

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hey frackal, i knew i liked you kid....i'll email you some personal experiences later (it's now 3:00 am and im delirious from marathon sex)

keep swingin like pizza

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WODIN

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posted October 23, 2000 06:30 AM

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Your not nuts or crazy frackal, I've been down that road. I sucked down enough LSD Tabs, METH and COKE to line a freeway! It's an escapist type of actitivy so there were probably things in your life u just didn't want to deal with I would geuss. But hey, your alive, your head 'seems' to be on straight and you can type in a coherent fashion so don't sweat it!

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havoc

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posted October 23, 2000 07:45 AM

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You spelled retarded incorrectly, I would of chosen a different word for a typo. J/K, I have been in some similar positions but with sex not drugs, I had a bad problem with attracting to many women that I couldnt say no to, shit happens.

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Fitnes1

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posted October 23, 2000 08:25 AM

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Frackal - no, none of those experiences for me, but I just wanted to say I'm glad you turned your life around & overcame those horrible feelings you had......

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Cleaner

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posted October 23, 2000 09:44 AM

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Yeap -
I've Talked about it before. Looked around one day and knew I was going no were.I needed to make some serious changes. So I told all my friend later and got cleaned up.
Its been a long time and thier still going on like thier 19.No regrets from my side.
Lost some life long friends because they still want to party.
I don't mind drinking and a little pot - not that I smoke - but this everyday three and four times a day is to much.

I look back and there are huge gaps in lost time. People tell me things and I can remember it for anything.

Fuk it - Mr. Clean


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kat

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posted October 23, 2000 09:56 AM

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Frackel;
The same thing happened to my BF. He'd been doing acid since he was 10...long story, screwed up family yadda yadda.
Anyhow, to be blunt, it's like dating a child sometimes. He can't remember something from hour to hour, makes completely irrational decisions, but occasionally I can see flashes of the intelligent person he used to be. He's not exactly a dumbass now, but it is sometimes difficult to deal with someone who can't remember anything.
Its a good thing he's a sweet kind person because a jerk under those conditions would be too much to tolerate


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JohnnyO

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posted October 23, 2000 10:51 AM

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Wow.. i always considered you a rather clean cut kid.. i had no idea. Unfortunately I don't have that much experience with lsd, but frankly I think you are fine brainwise.


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jakethemus

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posted October 23, 2000 11:52 AM

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Ive been there too . Started at 17 with weed, then ended up taking all kinds of shit.
It was a lifestyle that my social group just drifted into.
Some of them are still doing it, but most of us have grown out of it. The ones that havent are pretty messed up now.
Yea acid and mushrooms gave me that weird comedown paranoia feeling too - and I still feel that way sometimes two years after taking it especially when tired. And two years of my life 17-19 are real hazy when I try to remember. It comes back slowly.
Im not lying when I say I have seen a few people turn schizophrenic.
Everyone is different but it can mess some people up.
My head is getting clearer now, and I dont regret anything. It was a fun experiance at times (also felt real low at times) but now its a thing of the past.
I must admit to the Occasional use of x when I go clubbing, but this only happens about once a month or less now and Im thinking of ending that shit too now, its just not the same anymore.
Frackal it sounds like youve wised up a lot quicker than I did so good for you bro.

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Mr. T

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posted October 23, 2000 12:33 PM

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All that LSD screwed up my life stuff is false. LSD can mentally screw with some people but not all people. (People prediposed to a disorder) The myth that you will go insane by taking it was created by the US anti drug campaign in an effort to curb usage among teenagers in the 60's. Their is NO physical evidence that LSD can harm you physically unless you take too much or it is unpure. Read the book LSD Psychotherapy by Groff to get a real account of the drug. (I used it over 100 times as a teenager with no prob)


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supersizeme

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posted October 23, 2000 01:33 PM

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I have done acid maybe 6-7 times in my life. I have always been more partial to weed because i can at least function on a social level in public on it. i may not be mr social butterfly but at the same time i'm not super paranoid holy shit everyone knows i'm high. acid was cool but coming down from it always sucked and even still to this day if i stare at the carpet long enough i can see it melt. i believe it has some long term effects...not that those effects are bad. i find melting carpet interesting quite frankly. yo.

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