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madbomber31

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posted October 13, 2000 10:03 AM

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k, i posted this a while back and some mod deleted it...not sure why... its not racist at all.

arnold once said the best tan wins.

the last few years (since yates) black guys have dominated the olympia... is it genetics? is it the skin tone making the cuts more dramatic? is it a coincedence?

highest placing non black guy was arabic. so whats the deal???

ya, its not that bad of a topic, but havoc needed something, so maybe we can get some controversial opinions... (not racist ones)


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magic storm

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posted October 13, 2000 10:07 AM

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I don't know what to think of on that subject but there are some real good white bodybuilders who has good tans too like Lee Priest.


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MrMuscle

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posted October 13, 2000 10:09 AM

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well colour DOES make a difference...back in the old days if my memory serves me right..thee was a showdown between Sergio and Arnold, at some competitions...and the judges couldnt pic a winner...so Arnold, being the guy he is...adviced them to do a posedown infront of a black bacground..wich, ofcourse, made it hard to see Sergio at all..so Arnold won it..colour DOES make a difference..why do you think there are no pros that DONT have a tan...

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havoc

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posted October 13, 2000 10:10 AM

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I am going to stick with my same answer. Lets say Ronnie Coleman was white with an OK tan, He still would destroy anyone, this man is fucking huge. He would beat Yates when Yates was at his best. What white guys are impressive right now in comparison to some others? Lets see, Cutlers waist is around a 36 shredded and when he is at his leanest he doesnt compare to competitors like Ray or Jackson. Priest, I love this guy but he is too short in the judges opinion and it doesnt look like its going to change. Ruhl is going to have to compromise his size for a more symetrical and shapely physique. This is just my novice opinion.

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madbomber31

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posted October 13, 2000 10:43 AM

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MAN, RONNIE WITHOUT OIL IS FUCKING INSANE LOOKING... HIS ABS LOOK LIKE THEIR IS AN INCH OF CUTS. POOR A BEER ON HIM AND IT WOULD STAY IN THERE LIKE A CONTAINER. HE IS UNREAL... AS FOR IF HE WAS WHITE, I DONT KNOW. I THINK FLEX WOULD SHOW BETTER WITH THE CUTS. THE DARKER YOU ARE THE LEANER YOU LOOK (UNLESS YOUR A FAT FUCK). SO HAVOC, YOU THINK ITS JUST A COINIDENCE THAT THE TOP PLACERS HAVE BEEN BLACK FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS?

WHAT ABOUT GENETICS? ANY DIFFERENCE?


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cal

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posted October 13, 2000 10:30 PM

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lets not forget dorians reign...it wasnt really all that long ago...ruhl, nasser, priest...etc...


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ANACONDA

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posted October 13, 2000 10:45 PM

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I SAY DARKER IS BETTER... JUST LOOKS
BETTER


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted October 14, 2000 12:17 AM

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Right now Ronnie is kicking everyone's ass and color isn't much of a factor.

All the guys put so much shit on to get darker that there isn't much separating them in color anyway.

Markus Ruhl may eventually displace Ronnie, but it won't be this year.

matt


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Burnboy

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posted October 14, 2000 12:55 AM

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i think black guys have better genetics, not to stereotype


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magic storm

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posted October 14, 2000 12:58 AM

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Ronnie Coleman does look real good with the tan he used.That is why he won.


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pauly

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posted October 14, 2000 02:25 AM

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Burnboys right I think.
Remember "Jimmy the Greek"? He did Football commentary on ABC a while back. He said the same thing, that black people just had better genetics to grow (overall). Well, after that comment he lost his job.

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madbomber31

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posted October 14, 2000 11:44 AM

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nah pauly, jimmy had some other things to say. as well as saying they had advantages physically, he said if their were more coaches then they would have everything.

basically he said if we let "them" coach then there would be no place left for the white guy.

except the o-line...hahahaha. (had to add that)


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