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smallboy2

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posted October 09, 2000 10:52 AM

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What do you guys feel is the best "entry-level" job to try and get now in the computer/internet field?

What proves to be one of the best/highest paying jobs in the future that one should start studying for now?


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smallboy2

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posted October 09, 2000 10:53 AM

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and let me add "sort of easy to learn job."


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supersizeme

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posted October 09, 2000 11:01 AM

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That's kind of a hard call to make. I'd say Java is pretty hot right now as far as programming goes...if you can program well in that you can make some pretty nice coin. There is always application programming that is hot for a couple of years like PeopleSoft and SAP and whatnot but you probably want something that's going to be around for a while. There's no stability in learning one program that's not going to be around for a while.
If you want to go the networking route you can learn how to tear some shit up on a Cisco router...I know they make good money. There's a couple guys on here that do that, JohnnyO being one of them. Forgot who the other one was.
I got kind of lucky and learned UNIX really well a few years ago in college and now I'm a doing well as a systems administrator for an F500 company. UNIX pimps start out in the 40s as a junior admin and then once you get a couple years under your belt you'll hit 60s and then the sky's the limit. Start contracting at a senior level and you can ask $100/hr if you are a damn UNIX ninja. Not bad for no college education.

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Dread Lord Good Guy

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posted October 09, 2000 12:24 PM

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ill second java


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Jae

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posted October 09, 2000 01:07 PM

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Guys, he said "entry level" as in no computer experience at all. True Java does pay well, but how many people you know can learn Java without being well rounded in a few other areas as well?

I would that as far as easy learning goes and easy transitions into the computer field, I would say that to become an NT administrator is the best route. Certainly not the best long term goal, but this will do things, #1 get him into a career that requires minimal study and little experience, and #2 he can always burn the hell out of the tution reimbursement program most companies offer and learn more things while pulling a decent salary.

In Atlanta, Nt Admins make about $45k-$55k.

I am an Oracle DBA with almost one year under my belt, I am in my second contract right now, still a junior level, my first contract was $42 an hour, this one is $65 an hour, and since my employers are located in Hong Kong, I get to work out of my home and telecommute in, plus they furnishe "bonus" $$$ each month as I am using my home as part office so they pick up my phone, fax, internet, and 1/3 of my electric, heating bill each month.

Not bad for someone only doing this for 9 months so far.


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smallboy2

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posted October 09, 2000 01:44 PM

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Jae, what did you have to learn, and how long did it take to learn it, to become an Oracle DBA?



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Jae

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posted October 09, 2000 02:53 PM

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You have to have a good understanding of SQL language if you want to manipulate the DDL tables and do date mining, then it is just simple to learn the software. It is an ongoing thing, you never really learn it all.

Even people who have done it for 10 years are still learning. It pays to know a little UNIX and NT also.

You can take training classes for about 4 months, twice a week at night and practice the rest of the time.

Where are you looking, what city?


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smallboy2

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posted October 09, 2000 02:59 PM

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It would be in NY, but I'd like to check out some training books at first to see if I can even get a grasp of this stuff. It would be a waste of a lot of money to pay for the scourses and realize 2 days in that I'm completely lost. I know a little about UNIX so that should help. Do you know any good books to help "get me started"?


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smallboy2

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posted October 09, 2000 04:56 PM

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Thanks Jae!

I've been hanging out at www.sqlcourse.com for a while and I'm already starting to see how the language works. I'm 1 million percent sure there is much more to this than what I've learned so far, but it seems, like you said, sort of easy to learn

Do you know what books are good manuals for this? Is "Oracle DBA 101" a good one?


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