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special_bill

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posted October 07, 2000 01:58 PM

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just playing but i got a question:

i love close grip bench

i weigh 185 right now and was close gripping 245 the other day for reps, at the top of the pyramid...all the fucks in my gym say that is pretty damn good...is it?, i hate to say it but im one of the bigger boys there, so their opinion is as worthless as tits on a bull...


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Frackal

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posted October 07, 2000 02:48 PM

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Heh heh... Little Billy, I outweigh you by 10+ lbs and I'm still a natty buddy. But anyway, that is very good for your size. I only close grip 185 for 6.


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special_bill

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posted October 07, 2000 03:10 PM

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bitch im only four foot seven...

im only been on a cycle for a week and a half...i weighed 175 at the beginning....


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MrMuscle

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posted October 07, 2000 05:52 PM

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hmm..im 220 and im also a natty..haha billy stop calling us out

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Laserdude

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posted October 07, 2000 05:58 PM

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Hey that is good. I only weigh 122 lbs and can now do a deline press of 198. So I am doing around 1 2/3rds of my weight. I don't think I can do anymore than this. Keep up the good work. I know some guys at the gym
can't do this and they are much bigger. I guess focus and shear will power is something they don't quite have yet.

Course they don't know I am juicing, but that is my business.

Keep on lifting!!!


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Monster

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posted October 07, 2000 06:05 PM

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Shit, thats DAMN good!
Im 260 and I only close grip 305!
If you go by the ratios, you got me beat all to hell!

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WODIN

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posted October 07, 2000 06:31 PM

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ROCKET FUEL... I MEAN BILL! Yeah your getting their bro! I'm closing out @ 315 / 4-6 on the pyramid.


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Monster

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posted October 07, 2000 06:43 PM

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Yep, but shit, I dont care in the end. I dont have a big bench or anything either. I dont even use the straight bar! I use only dumbells... depending on how peppy I feel I'll incline the 130's or the 150's.
But fuck, some of these guys half my size are benching 400+ pounds!
But I look better, so fuck it...


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WODIN

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posted October 07, 2000 06:52 PM

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AHMEN MONSTER! I Know I can pop up some weight when I really want to, but for a standard chest day workout. I'm sitting my bench @ 315 - 365 on the flat bench because...
1. It is never the first thing I do for chest, usually the third.
2. I want to get a good solid burn going so the heavire wieght causes alot of guys form, even mine to totally suck!
3. I really don't think that much of a big bench. My max right now is @ 485, I can rep out 460 if I push it...military! Do I get anythting out of it? I really don't think so because I never really feel a good burn when I go heavy... Just my thoughts


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted October 08, 2000 02:13 AM

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Wodin,

Going heavy strengthens joints....and it also causes the body to produce more testosterone during your workouts.....

Are you claiming a 460 pounds military press or did I misread you? If you claim that, you're full of shit.

Matt


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Dread Lord Good Guy

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posted October 09, 2000 02:31 AM

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jeez, and i thought my close grip was decent


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mrbill

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posted October 09, 2000 05:29 AM

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hey special bill...that's pretty dam good for 185. Just curious what is your regular flat bench?


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WODIN

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posted October 09, 2000 06:53 AM

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YEP 460! And I really don't care what you think!


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supersizeme

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posted October 09, 2000 09:20 AM

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120lbs and on the juice?? Dayom. You should try getting on the food.

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Monster

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posted October 09, 2000 09:41 AM

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Heh heh... on the food... yeah...


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Iron God

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posted October 09, 2000 10:31 AM

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460lbs Military Press????Seated or standing????

How much of an arch do you put in your back??

If hope your are telling the truth, I have never seen anyone do that.

Most I did was 315 for 4(Standing military press) and I thought that was Awesome.

IG


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special_bill

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posted October 09, 2000 10:44 AM

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here's the weird part...i cant do much more on flat bench...yesterday i did 255 at the top for 3...and it was hard as hell...could it be possible to close grip more than you flat?...


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WODIN

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posted October 09, 2000 11:40 AM

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Okay. I went a looking and found that I mis-spoke I flat-bench (what I call a tight military-bench 460 for reps). I overhead max @ 315 for reps! Sorry for the confusion.

And bill it is possible, your triceps are doing most of the work on the close grip, you probably should add in some more dumbell fly work and wide grip bench.

Are your pecs tight on the corners? meaning they are fairly sqaure at the corner without the rounging, on the sides.


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special_bill

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posted October 09, 2000 11:45 AM

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oddly enough yes....everyone is surprised at how weak my flat bench is compared to my chest size...plus couple this with the fact that my wrists are about 5.8 inches in diameter...its a strange site...

oh and wodin, remember when i "busted" you for your grevious error..asking if you could overhead press 450 elbows for real...


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supersizeme

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posted October 09, 2000 11:57 AM

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bill i hope you meant circumference and not diameter. if your wrist is 5.8 inches in diameter that would be pretty damn weird looking and probably painful for whoever you were fisting.

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special_bill

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posted October 09, 2000 01:00 PM

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you are correct supersize...i was not fully awake at the time of that post


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WODIN

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posted October 09, 2000 01:18 PM

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Yes bill I remember. I just have trouble "updating" my vocabulary...kick me in the ass! He He..

As to your chest problem add in the wide grip on the flat bench and then add in the db flys with the extension completley out to the side and the arms wide like a T. This should be difficult at first but it will target the areas on your sides and add the thickness. Also a dips with your chin tucked in and your shoulders rolled up will place the focus on your chest / sides.


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