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JohnnyO

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posted October 05, 2000 12:26 PM

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I'm thinking i'm living with one... i can handle the occasional fender benders (it's not my car) and black out periods.

but last night my suspect alcoholic turned the empty oven FULL BLAST instead of OFF. I wake up a 3am with a house full of smoke -- I woke up 2 minutes before the smoke alarms went off.

I'm pissed. Is it possible to get someone to drink less or not at all?


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skydancer

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posted October 05, 2000 12:31 PM

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It truly depends on the person Johnny. Some can limit with no problem...others one drink will set them off on a binge.

My FIL is a functioning alcoholic (meaning he drinks a lot of beer - A LOT) but has always held a job etc etc. He's replaced much of his beer drinking with non-alcoholic stuff and "only" drinks on weekends now.

For a while I drank a lot but now I'm very limited. If I have two drinks a month thats a lot for me. (Alcoholism runs in my family) But some can't do that and must just quit cold.

Does this person acknowledge that there is a problem??

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THE STEEL BEAST

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posted October 05, 2000 12:32 PM

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VIDEO TAPE THAT PERSON DRUNK AND SEND THE TAPES TO HIS MOTHER.THAT MIGHT WORK

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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted October 05, 2000 12:32 PM

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Some say its a genetic link...however whatever the source if they don't decide to stop or slow done on their own you don't have many options.......try adding water to the liquor....be prepaired to a very pissed off want to be drunk though if you do that..........INERVENTION.....not exactly sure how this works but something like corner them in a room with all their friends etc and beat the crap out of then till they can no long physically hold a drink ... JohnnyO ..thanks honey for some "different" topics worth clicking on here today


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WODIN

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posted October 05, 2000 12:32 PM

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Johnny, I lived with one my entire childhood! Just email me at this addy and well talk.


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Thick dawg

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posted October 05, 2000 12:42 PM

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Get them a razor blade, small mirror, and an 8 ball. hehe I would try limiting the drinking to one night a week, preferably a weekend when you go out to a club or something. I don't drink during the week, but I make up for it on the weekend. however, I know my limit and don't make an idiot of my self. If you really feel they have a drinking problem, perhaps you should let them know.


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runner

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posted October 05, 2000 12:47 PM

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as a child of an alcoholic let me assure you there's not much you can do if they don't acknowledge that there's a problem.

if this is your husband you're talking about then you may be able to persuade him to attend an AA meeting or something.

if the guy is just a roommate. kick him out. he should not be endangering you through his behavior and i know it may sound cold, but really he will probably have to hit rock bottom before he decides to get help. you may be accelerating the process by letting him know you won't tolerate it.


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JohnnyO

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posted October 05, 2000 12:47 PM

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I've <sniff> already beaten my 8ball demon <sniff>... I don't think I want <sniff> that around my house any more <sniff>

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WODIN

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posted October 05, 2000 12:54 PM

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JOHNNY CHECK YOUR MAIL BUD.

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JohnnyO

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posted October 05, 2000 12:59 PM

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I'll check the mail... and yes runner it's the husband of 11 years. He says he has a problem but so far has been unwilling to do anything about it.

When we were poor, well, i guess he didn't or couldn't afford to drink.

No, anything and everything is avaiable, so it's becoming out of control


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Monster

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posted October 05, 2000 01:00 PM

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Unfortunatly, no one can MAKE him do it. In the end it will not matter what anyone does, no matter how much the person loves him, or he them, unless HE HIMSELF wants to do it. Until he admits to himself that he has a problem, it will never change, becuse in his heart he WILL NOT HAVE A PROBLEM!
The people who love him may be able to get through to him that he has a problem though. Its a touchy situation, be ten times more delicate with him than you would normally.
He will be ashamed of it deep inside, and may lash out at you or shut himself away.
Fuck, it wont be easy, but you have to keep strong. He may start throwing things youve said or done in your face, or doing any kind of crazy thing he can to hide his own fear and shame.
Everyone reacts differently to a confrontation. But it can be done. If its someone you care for, that makes it all worth while.
If he is too gone, only abstaining from drink will help. Very few people can just limit.
Psychologically, people who ARE able to limit it, are not technically alcoholics per se. They are dealing more with and obsessive compulsive disorder that has manifested itself in alcohol.
An alcoholic in the most technical sense of the word, cannot have ANY alcohol to drink or they fall off the wagon and back into their same patterns.

Its not something to approach with anger, no matter how mad you are. That is the sure way to compound the situation.
But its a lot of work, and if you arent serious about this person, I donmt think anyone would blame you for getting out.


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Rex37

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posted October 05, 2000 03:30 PM

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My grandfather and uncle was/is an alcoholic. It fucked up my uncles life. He lost his son to his ex-wife. Is extremely lucky if he gets to see him. Now my uncle is better, don't drink anymore, and is getting his life back together. He goes to my hockey games and we talk. He sees me as a "son" so it helps keep him from going back to his old habits.


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Kaisersosay

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posted October 05, 2000 08:31 PM

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I'M AN ALCHOLIC,I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE GYM SINCE MARCH,I'M DEPRESSED ALL THE TIME,I HAVE A JOB.I KNOW I CAN BE A LOT BETTER IF I DIDN'T DRINK.I JUST HAVE TO HIT BOTTOM AND THEN I'LL BRING MYSELF TO THE TOP.JOHNNY JUST DON'T TELL HIM ALL THE TIME HE HAS A PROBELM,IT WILL JUST GET HIM MAD.


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted October 06, 2000 12:06 AM

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JohnnyO

If you yourself faced down your own demon, you really shouldn't need advice from us. You should know that no amount of external pressure can bring on a change - it must come from within the person.

Matt


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dannyboy

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posted October 06, 2000 03:35 AM

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Man thats sad news to hear about.Alcohol drinking is not the thing to do if you can't control yourself.If this problem still occurs within lets say a month or 2 you should see if you can get him some serouis help pronto!


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Dread Lord Good Guy

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posted October 06, 2000 03:38 AM

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achool to the achoolic is like,,,,


food to a fat person


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TxCollegeguy

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posted October 06, 2000 10:32 AM

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well I've had binge drinking problems a few times in my life...never proceded to anything more then that...A couple friends of mine are full blown addicts...One has gone threw rehab 2...the 2nd time he put himself in so I'm hoping he stays sobber...

Talking with those 2 friends has helped me face some of my own inner demons...I rarely drink now and feel better about it cause its something I finally decided to give time to think about...

if the person doesn't admit it to themselves then nothing is going to work until they do.


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JohnnyO

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posted October 06, 2000 11:17 AM

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Thanks guys.. this really helps.

I guess I really have three courses of action.

1. Do nothing, and hope changes come

2. Try to be supportive and try to get
us professional help -- no guarantees that this course will work.

3. Or just blow off the whole thing off and be single.

I guess I'll try the second one for a while and see


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