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 Gore Admits he Lied during Debate
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Vice President Al Gore yesterday conceded that a dramatic anecdote he told in Tuesday night's debate was not exactly true � and the accuracy of one or two others was questioned as well. Mr. Gore � who said he traveled to Texas with the Federal Emergency Management Agency Director James Lee Witt to inspect wildfire damage � acknowledged yesterday he did not. "I was there in Texas. I think James Lee went to the same fires. I've made so many trips with James to these disaster sites. I got that wrong," the vice president said on "Good Morning America." The Gore campaign spent much of yesterday putting out other fires concerning other anecdotes, including one by Mr. Gore that a Florida school forced a female student to stand in an overcrowded classroom. "Her science class was supposed to be for 24 students," the vice president said during the debate. "She is the 36th student in that classroom. . . . They can't squeeze another desk in for her, so she has to stand during class." Sarasota High School Principal Daniel Kennedy, however, said that isn't true. The class was short a desk for just one day. "That was probably one of the first days of school when we were in the process of leveling classes. And, she did have an opportunity to use a lab stool," he said on radio station WFLA in Sarasota. "We don't really have any students standing in class and we have more than enough desks for all of our students," said Mr. Kennedy. The Bush campaign yesterday criticized Mr. Gore as reporters scurried to check the veracity of anecdotes the vice president told during the debate. "It's a troubling pattern of ongoing embellishments and exaggerations from the vice president under pressure," said Bush senior adviser Ari Fleischer. "It's an unsettling indication of how the vice president reacts to pressure by exaggerating personal stories that are easily verifiable." Mr. Gore's latest gaffes follow the concocted story two weeks ago about how prescription drugs for his mother-in-law cost more than arthritis drugs for his dog. Aides later said the story was a "composite" using numbers from a congressional report. That was followed by Mr. Gore's claim that he was involved with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve "since the days it was first established." In fact, he entered the House two years after the reserve was created in 1975. Then he told a labor group that his mother had sung one of their union songs to him as a lullaby, but the song wasn't written until Mr. Gore was 27. He later said he had been kidding. During the debate, Mr. Bush responded to a question from moderator Jim Lehrer about how he handled the unexpected by recalling his actions during wildfires in Parker County, Texas, in 1996. "I have to pay the administration a compliment," said Mr. Bush. "FEMA has done a good job of working with governors during times of crisis." Mr. Gore, in a rebuttal, sought to do the governor one better. "I want to compliment the governor on his response to those fires and floods in Texas," Mr. Gore said unasked. "I, I accompanied James Lee Witt down to Texas when those fires broke out." A quizzical expression crossed Mr. Bush's face as the vice president spoke. "I thought for a moment I was going to call him on it," Mr. Bush told Fox News Channel yesterday. "I don't remember him being in Parker County. But I took the man at his word. "This is a man � he's got a record, you know, of sometimes exaggerating to make a point." Mr. Gore acknowledged yesterday he had been in a Houston hotel � possibly for a fund-raiser � at the time and had not traveled to Texas with Mr. Witt to survey the fire damage. He said yesterday he had been briefed by FEMA officials. "I was there in Texas in Houston with the head of the Texas emergency management folks and with all the federal emergency management folks. If James Lee was there before or after, then, you know, I got that wrong then." The Bush campaign said Mr. Gore visited Houston on June 25, 1998, not during the 1996 fires to which Mr. Bush was referring. They said Mr. Gore attended a hastily arranged airport briefing on the fires before he drove off to a political fund-raiser. Mr. Witt was not with Mr. Gore during the briefing. Gore spokesman Chris Lehane explained that the vice president had confused Mr. Witt with his underling, Buddy Young, a regional FEMA director who was actually the official who met with Mr. Gore on the occasion in question. "The vice president traveled down to Texas in June of '98, flew over the fires and then did an event with Buddy Young," Mr. Lehane told The Washington Times. "He was not with Witt. We've been with Witt in the past in other disaster areas and emergency zone. He was just mistaken. "The point was he saw the fires and held a meeting on them � he was complimenting the governor," said Mr. Lehane. "I think it shows how touchy the Bush campaign is � you can't even give them a compliment these days. I think those guys are getting a little stressed out down there." Reporters also examined Mr. Gore's claim that a Florida schoolgirl, Kailey Ellis, had to stand in her classroom. "I want the federal government . . . to make improvement of our schools the number-one priority so Kailey Ellis will have a desk and can sit down in a classroom where she can learn," Mr. Gore said in the debate. School officials in Florida acknowledged yesterday that the 15-year-old girl did indeed go without a desk in science class � for a day. They said she was late for school and it took officials a few hours to find a desk for her. "We were refurbishing that classroom and in the back of that picture, if you look carefully, you can see probably about $100,000 worth of new lab equipment that was waiting to be unpacked, which is one of the reasons the room looked as crowded as it did," Mr. Kennedy, the school principal, said in the radio interview. This exchange between the talk-show host and Mr. Kennedy followed: Host: "The way that it was framed last night was that they couldn't fit another desk in there because there were so many students in the classroom." Mr. Kennedy: "Right I think that's a little bit misleading to tell you the truth, because I've been in the classroom many times." Host: "Ah-ha. A little twisting of the truth." Mr. Kennedy: "Yes, I think so." The Gore campaign refused to backtrack on the anecdote. Aides made copies of a Sarasota newspaper article on the girl and passed them out to reporters traveling with the vice president. Mr. Lehane said his boss was merely referring to the newspaper article, which had been sent to him with a handwritten note from the girl's father. The principal, however, was disappointed. "I think it's unfortunate the vice president didn't call the school to check," said Mr. Kennedy. Gore campaign staffers yesterday said Mr. Bush was guilty of his own misrepresentations. One, they said, involved RU-486, the French abortion pill recently approved by the Food and Drug Administration for use in the United States. "He said the federal government can't review it," Mr. Lehane said. "In the past he had said if he was president, he would have the government review it." Mr. Lehane also said the Texas governor "is just flat out wrong" in asserting that he has been outspent by Mr. Gore in the presidential campaign. "Bush, I think, has spent somewhere in the neighborhood of $93 million," Mr. Lehane said. "We've spent about $46 million." � Dave Boyer, traveling with George W. Bush, reported from West Chester, Pa.; Bill Sammon, traveling with Al Gore, reported from Warren, Ohio. http://208.246.212.80/national/default-2000105225424.htm     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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A politician lied!!!!!!!!!!! OH MY...what is this crazy world comming to?????!!! Hey if he admitted it does that mean he's being honest? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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More? http://www.nypostonline.com/news/12217.htm | ||
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Gore lied about visiting a specific fire when in all actuality he was at another one. Who cares if he went to fire A or fire B? If you went with me to a fire in Dallas on October 11 1999 and one in Houston on October 12 1999 do you think youd remember today which date we went where? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Woo. Pretty incisive comments, Mr. H. What about the student Gore said was forced to stand in her classroom? What about the dog medication lie? What about the whole Winnifred Skinner bullshit? It's about a pattern, Mr. H. "It's a troubling pattern of ongoing embellishments and exaggerations from the vice president under pressure," said Bush senior adviser Ari Fleischer. "It's an unsettling indication of how the vice president reacts to pressure by exaggerating personal stories that are easily verifiable." | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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quote: I certainly wouldn't remember that. There's only a difference of one day; however, I think I'd know the difference between 1996 and 1998. =) The problem with Gore is that he's pulling material out of his ass. I think Bush said it best when he said: "Not only did Mr. Gore invent the Internet, but he also must have invented the calculator." -Warik | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Gore is a liar. I honestly don't know how anyone who thinks clearly could ever be democrat. Work hard for others and wittle away at the constitition... really makes sense. I say lower the taxes for everyone, and if you are democrat you can always check the box on the W4 to have the commies take more out of your check! | ||
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You know what is sad? This country and its intelligence level are so fucked up that it will elect this moron to the presidency, and we will have more of the same bullshit lies, scandals and taxpayer funder lawyer support to save his ass. How anyone can vote for someone who cheats on his wife, I dunno, and how someone can vote for someon who lies, gets contributions from the Chinese army, can't remember being at fundraisers where pictures were taken of him...and on and on and on... When is this country gonna wake up to the hyprocisy and bullshit that is being put forth to them as truth. Think for yourself America. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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why do people defend this man he has proven himself to be a compulsive liar me makes shit up everyday to make himself look good he acted like a child during the debate too and people still defend the man where was algore when clinton was exposed for the snake that he is ??? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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its all image, substance does not matter, people saw the debates, they dont give a shit what he said about it later. its all IMAGE and APPEARANCES. The country may be smart, but they dont give a shit if you dont look and act cool. ------------------ | ||
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Don't blame me, I'm just a man who wanted McCain to win it all  | ||
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Cool Novice 
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Gore's a fucking idiot and a liar. For one thing he believes he created the internet which is just an absurd thought. Ask him how to spell potatoe sometime. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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If Al Gore stood right in my face and said he talked to God yesterday I would still vote for him over that redneck Bush! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Wannabebig how can Bush be a redneck??He went to YALE for christ sake....I don't really think of him as a True Texan, but hey he's more of a Texan then Hillary is a New Yorker... Also are you implying that because he represents Texans that we are all Rednecks...We might have Rednecks from getting alot of sun unlike most of the pasty people from your neck of the country, but if we are indeed rednecks we have some Great ones Representing this state. Why else would Companies like Dell, Motorola, Chase Bank, and Compaq either headquarter or have MAJOR Coporate holdings here?? I can't even begin to tell you how many Tech related corporations are based in Austin... not to mention some of the best Colleges here University of Texas, Texas A&M, Rice... Gov Bush has made many people in this state Happy...He's the first Republican elected Gov since the Reconstruction Government ended after the Civil War...He's also the first Gov in this state to EVER win Relection...If things were as Bad as ALBERT has been saying about this state I really don't think he would have been Relected...He's contributed to alot of Changes with the most important being helping to reform the State Welfare programs and making the question of Race optional for College students applying for school and scholarships. Reguardless of what kind of person he is I don't think many Texans that are memebers here would say he hasn't done a good job here. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Did you notice how they came accross in the debate? Gore was transparently slimey. You know what's really sad though America would elect Clinton in this election if he could run again. Clinton at least at the time he is lying doesn't seem like he's lying, but Gore is transparent. Clinton is a much better speaker than both of them, and smarter to boot. He is also the slimiest of all president's because of his candor at the time he speaks. But the truth always comes out. At least Clinton is a good lier. I like Bush he is the biggest puppet corprate america has ever seen. He's also a stupid lier. But he says stuff that makes me want to vote for that crack head. Like cut taxes for all people! I like that! Because I hate being in the 39% federal tax bracket. ------------------ | ||
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WannaBeBig, I don't want to flame you....but could you please tell us what it is about Al Gore that makes you want to vote for him? I am really curious about this.... Matt | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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if you are in the 39% tax bracket then you are an evil person who is probably a republican or libertarian and need to die and thanks to the estate tax we will take half of your shit so that your kids will have to sell it just to pay this wonderful tax and married people deserve to pay more tax and they should die too and this is why algore should be president so that these beliefs will continue to spread all over this fabulous nation of ours that sees the constitution as some annoying piece of paper that should be burned just like our stupid american flag and lying is an endearing trait to have as well as infidelity and all republicans are the incarnation of satan amen and go tell it on the mountain | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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it just so happens that i have a copy of "earth in the balance" by algore this is a special edition given only to those that swear to uphold the misinterpretation of the constitution it has an exclusive bonus chapter co written with the unabomber aptly entitled "the liberal manifesto" allow me to share some exerpts with you.... people will generally believe anything you tell them so lying is our best friend and more importantly no one really cares about the truth anyway cruel and unusual punishment shall only apply to the annoying little growth inside the womb, also known as "my baby" or "the fetus" the only victims in society are those in prison, society has failed them and WE must take responsibility for their crimes the only hard working people in america are poor people, it is our duty to subsidize the poor by sticking it to the rich the invention of the internal combustion engine marked the downfall of humanity and for this reason we will not use it at all logging is an atrocity....there is no greater crime than the murder of an innocent tree and for this reason we will not make use of its products marriage is an institution that must be discouraged and for this reason we must uphold the marriage tax wealth is an institution that must be discouraged and for this reason we must uphold the estate tax humanity is an institution that must be discouraged and for this reason we must uphold the principles of socialism and the democratic party |
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