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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 29, 2000 01:24 PM

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Due to the olympics...a tv glimpse of culture meshing....it refreshens the things about most Americans that make me embarrassed to call myself one. We have so much....but don't even thick twice about sharing or others.

Don't feel like typing much so heres the cliff note version:
US-mercades, bmw, boob jobs, liposuction, plastic surgury, billionaires, ...
INDIA-(visited Madras)-no clean water, sanitation forget it, cchildren with absolutely nothing just a ratty t shirt fighting with adults for food....I got a strong stomach but I've never ( even after seeing all those save the children commercials with that fat chick) imaged that such a way of life could possibly still exist and in the "metropolitian" city of Madras.........WHOLE new respect for Mother Teresa and all the work she did there.......I don't think I could handle it


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havoc

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posted September 29, 2000 01:29 PM

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I have a 2000 BMW but I dont see what that has to do with being an American, Bavarian Motor Works.

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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 29, 2000 01:31 PM

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THe bottom line is we spend more money then any other country...use more fossil fuels....we must have it all...and what are we on the ranks of population to square feet???


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Frackal

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posted September 29, 2000 01:32 PM

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I'm embarrassed to be American because they're for the most part FAT, lazy, and obsessed with material things. However I'm also proud to be one...kind of. I definitely feel blessed to be born here though.


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posted September 29, 2000 01:34 PM

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I agree America as a whole is a greedy, self absorbing, inconsiderate and arrogant establishment. I rather live in Fiji and if I had the cash I would. peace.

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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 29, 2000 01:34 PM

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The American dream...to be rich...but at whose expense??? Just don't think enough people think about it..;(

God not getting enough sleep has made not so Rnady this morning hasn't it.....can't even put in as many smiles;(


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Gilbyag

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posted September 29, 2000 01:38 PM

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well, im not embarrassed to be an American, not at all. Why should we, is this in any way "my" fualt... no, yea I feel bad for them, but at the same time these bull shit so called charity's take the highest % of the $ you donate. So, what am I supposed to do. Does this mean Im not supposed to enjoy what I can afford that life has to offer... NO. Besides, we have people here in the US that live in much the same way. Just take a dirve around some of the back woods in the US sometime. Itll make ya wanna puke.

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mightydog

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posted September 29, 2000 01:46 PM

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Its the fact we have too many goddamn fat asses in this country! We out to expell the fat fucks to a third world country where they can eat bugs and straw until the get down to a decent weight.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 29, 2000 01:52 PM

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I know its bad in part of the us....but have you ever been to INDIA>...nothing compares.... I just think the average American mindset...to make money...and lots of it......and not even thinking of anny other place but America...I love america too..don't get me wrong...we have so much (rights, ammednities, etc..). I just think people need to look outside of their bubble and what is comfotable to them and see the whole world. We are just a small selfish part of it.

Those other countries may not haveaas much material things as we do...but damn some of those people are true "humane beings"......Was in Vietnam, Ho Chi Men City...thought damn these people must fuckin hate us as I walked around their city that you could still see the beatin American bombs had takenon it and walked thru the streets where amputies sat....and ya know what....out of every place I have ever been...never have I met more nice, compassionate, friendly welcoming people.

I just think that alot of countrys citizens have a tendency to look up to US Citizens and sometimes I wonder why?


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Weapon X

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posted September 29, 2000 02:09 PM

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I'm certain that the populace of this country is more generous and has more philanthropists than any other nation on earth, thank you.
I hate when an "underdeveloped" nation is pointed as a reason for us to make do with less. These other nations need to straighten their shit out. Look at Africa ( http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/1996_hrp_report/liberia.html )- how much aid are they gonna get before their petty little dictators stop mass murders? You blame their lack of prosperity on american capiatalism? Hey, whatever eases your guilt over being comfortable, I guess.
That's what sickens me about America: This liberal need to vilify money and capitalism.
How much money is enough? Maybe we could give them more money after we wipe the asses of every poor person in America first. Bullshit. India is turning out more computer programmers and high tech workers than most other countries, and they are all moving here to the Pacific Northwest to live. Tell me again how embarassed you are to be American.

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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 29, 2000 02:15 PM

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"Yeah...go Capitalism...heah heah conrads"...I love capitalisim, but just need less ignorant and self absorbed peps in this here beautiful country or ours

To the fat ass comments......if we send then to ethipia they will steal what little food those people have.


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FreakMonster

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posted September 29, 2000 02:16 PM

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Agent: What point are you trying to make?
Don't you think I know how poverty stricken third world countries are? Ya I feel bad for them and I am very fortunate to have what I have. So why the hell are you BITCHING?


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted September 29, 2000 06:49 PM

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Well, here's a thought to ponder.

We give more foreign aid to other countries than any other country by a mile. Not to mentionm we place out troops all over the place (Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia) trying to help out. What do these places do for us?

Additionally there are legions of American organizations that do charity work.

Do you have any idea how much we help the world's economy? Many people are incessantly bitching about our "sweatshop" factories in Asia etc., but people never stop to ponder that the seemingly small wages we pay those workers are actually not unreasonable when given their surroundings.

These sweatshops actually create jobs and help the economy of the country in which they are built.

And so it goes. We give plenty back. But we can't solve all the problems.

This topic is junk.

Matt


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ANACONDA

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posted September 29, 2000 07:02 PM

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THE US AND GREAT BRITAIN ARE LIFTED HIGHER THAN THE OTHER PEOPLES OF THE WORLD FOR A REASON....

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Checkmatebloated

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posted September 29, 2000 07:07 PM

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Then Leave! I'll pay for the ticket as long as you renounce you citizenship.

I know! I know! I'm such an asshole. Oh well that's how I feel.

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Weapon X

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posted September 29, 2000 07:09 PM

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Whenever I think on a topic such as this, I must reflect upon Japan and how much they have advanced in the last 100 years. They started out as what Westerners called savages. They obviously had the intelligence and work ethic to lift themselves up by their bootstraps. So tell me why other nations can't? Look at what Israel has become. It's true that we give 'em lots of money, but they are obviously working hard, and have quite a group of scientists. Why are other countries so damn backward still? Is it America's fault? I doubt it.


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Dark Stalker

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posted September 30, 2000 05:53 PM

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I agree with Matt ! I know I'm not american but I feel that we (Canadians) also send money to poor countries but why ? I mean there's so much poor people here, why do I have to send money to foreigners and that local children don't eat properly ? When we send money to those countries guess who take it ? The president of course ! I've been to Africa myself and even if we would send billions of dollars, they still would remain poor.


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20.4

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posted September 30, 2000 06:31 PM

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Shagwell:

Okay I usually come on here to express myself in a juvinal fasion. The more childlike, the better! However I felt the need to give you an adult response to this issue.

With that said.. her goes...


This country does have a lot of material wealth as does Great Britan. India as you have said has some of the poorest places on the planet. However these people for all ther poverty haven choosen to live in the situation that they are experiencing. And we have choosen to live in a very wealthy country to pursue our economic goals.

This does not mean that one is better than the other nor does it mean that the people of India are suffering any greater or less than the people in this country. You can point to any situation and draw comparitives between the two situations and declare one to be better off than the other anytime. You can also then turn around and change your criteria a bit and the results can flip!

For instance if you were walking along the banks of the Ghangis and saw a man/woman who looked emasciated, like the just stepped out of a famine, and they are by all visible means extremley poor and filthy and survive on the meager scraps of food, and bird shit that they can find. You would think this a terrible thing to let happen in this world.

What if this person chose this path of existance. They are called Astetics, they live in India this way in order to acheive enlightenment. This is there path in the world. What if they didn't voluntarily chose that path then? Somewhere this person on a subconscous or conscous level must have choosen this in order to ahcieve there kharma in life.

Also many of the people in Inida believe that the worst possible thing to be born as is a WHITE ANGLOSAXON EUROPEAN MALE IN AMERICA..don't get cocky women are next on the list. To them this is the lowest rung on the kharmic wheel of existance due to our obessession with material greed and wanting. For them this place would be hell to be born to.

My point is that you may want to expand your viewpoints on the world for every situation is not black and white. There are infinite degrees of greay in between these two extremes.

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Natymike

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posted September 30, 2000 07:15 PM

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well if your embarresed then go live in bosnia or some other foreign country, you won't be missed, When I think about the Millions of Americans that have died for me to give me what I have, I am FUCKING PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN, and you should be too, thats a shallow heartless statement, Sure we spend more money and and all that shit, but what would you like?? you want a communist country?? not me, I'm happy with all the American advatages that I have access too, so we are the biggest baddest country, plenty of foreign immigrants are getting a piece of the American Dream, maybe you don't want the "American Dream" to be a reality but I do. By the way, this isn't a flame.

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TxCollegeguy

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posted September 30, 2000 10:45 PM

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Very well put NatyMike

I have a very limited view to India, I have never been there personally, but know from stories of my Aunt who was born and grew up there till she was a teenager...

She grew up about 1 hr from the Kashmir(spelling) region...She learned english in a British Private school before moving over. Her faimly was pretty well to do, and based on the Cast system she had alot of advantages...Her faimly moved to the U.S. because they thought they could live a better life here...I have alot of respect for her faimly her dad started out doing grunt work here for a fraction of what he could have made staying there...He built himself back up and owned a few business around houston...This past Dec my uncle went with her to her Brothers wedding back there and said it was the Worst place in the world he could have ever been...He lost close to 40lbs in 1 month of living there..said it was the best diet he could have ever had....He ate the best foods drank the best liquids that country has to offer...He also had stomache problems that the makers of Malox and Pepto could never dream of....

But he said they were some of the warmest people even to him being the White American married to the woman who was considered a heritic to her culture....He believed that even though those people have so much less then we do, they are pretty happy...They have Far less accidents in that country because they have No Health care...It makes alot of since...No health care means those people have to be alot more carefull not to get hurt or sick...

The older a civilization the more complicated it's people become...


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The Canadian Oak

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posted September 30, 2000 11:10 PM

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I hate being canadian id rather be american atleast your schools dont cut budget and have sports,we dont because the teachers r bitching about having to much of a work load and now anybody with dreams of playing pro ball is fucked out of it,so CANADA SUX and oru laws arent harsh enuff

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Weapon X

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posted September 30, 2000 11:12 PM

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Oops. Wrong thread.

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posted October 01, 2000 06:41 AM

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Agent, woman!!!lol

you got a GOOD head on them shoulders!!!! YOU MARRIED????????????????

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Dirk Diggler

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posted October 01, 2000 06:58 AM

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watching that show the 400m relay team put on last night makes me ashamed to be american

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Latimer

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posted October 01, 2000 12:15 PM

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Fuck that i'm proud to be an American.


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The Dude

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posted October 01, 2000 12:27 PM

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I'm proud as hell. We are properous because we are free and work for it dammmit! I am lucky that I was born an American, but I live up to that gift by busting my ass for everything I have. Never be ashamed. Be proud of this nation and what we've accomplished. We are the global leader economically. We earned it! Be proud to be an American!

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The Canadian Oak

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posted October 01, 2000 12:58 PM

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can i come be american

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posted October 01, 2000 02:46 PM

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Unless you're an entertainer, Canadians aren't allowed. Sorry those are the rules.

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posted October 01, 2000 04:21 PM

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you should all be ashamed to be american. america sucks.
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posted October 01, 2000 04:54 PM

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"Shut up, you American! You Americans, all you do is talk, and talk, and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say.' Well, you're dead now, so shut up!"
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Weapon X

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posted October 01, 2000 06:31 PM

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America's in some hurtin' shape right now, but it's the best fucking place on earth at present. Let's not take it for granted by electing imbeciles like Gore and Lieberman.

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posted October 01, 2000 07:18 PM

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WE DID NOT WORK FOR IT, THAT IS WHY US AMERICANS IN THE LAND OF MANESSAH, WILL HAVE IT ALL TAKEN AWAY. THE WHORE(USA) WILL BE STRIPPED NAKED. (AS IS BEING DONE NOW)
THEN WE WILL SUFFER FAMINE, THE BEAST OF THE EARTH, THE SWORD AND PESTILANCE (THE FOUR HORSEMAN) THEN, THE NEW LEADER WILL COME DOWN TO TAKE HIS THROWN AND IF YOU ARE LUCKY YOU WILL BE AT THE WEDDING SUPPER......NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO DENY WHO DID IT.
WE ARE INDEED A BLESSED NATION. BUT IF YOU WERE BORN IN SOUTH AFRICA YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME BLESSINGS. FEEL LUCKY AND REJOICE IN THE LORD.
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What the hell are you talking about, over?


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