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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 28, 2000 07:17 AM

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how many days, weeks, or months old does the fetus have to be before you would consider it not okay to kill

this is a serious question
i am just really curious where people draw the line

this one is eight weeks old


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posted September 28, 2000 07:31 AM

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EVERY SPERM IS SACRED!
There are Jews in the world, there are Buddhists,
there are Hindus and Mormons and thenthere are those that follow Mohammed -but-
I've never been one of them.I am a Roman Catholic
and have been since before I was born,
and the one thing they say about Catholics is
they'll take you as soon as you're warm.You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on, you'rea Catholic the moment dad came
...Because...Every sperm is sacred,every sperm is great,If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate. (2x)Let the heathens spill theirs,on the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay foreach sperm that can't be found.Every sperm is wanted,
every sperm is good.Every sperm is needed,in your neighborhood.
Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,spill theirs just anywhere
but God loves those who treat theirsemen with more care.(misc choruses)
Every sperm is useful,every sperm is fine.God needs everybodies,
mine, and mine, and mine.Let the pagans spill theirson mountain hill and plain.
God shall strike them down foreach sperm that's spilled in vain.

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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 28, 2000 07:54 AM

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I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.


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20.4

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posted September 28, 2000 08:18 AM

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Dirk? You know my father? You bitch!

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Dlady27

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posted September 28, 2000 09:35 AM

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This is very bad of me to say I know but, I do not think it matters as long as the mother isn't past the usual 2 months,(something like that) because I see it like this ..
If You as a mother know damn well that you cannot provide for a child or take respondsibility of another human being, you should not have a child. And me personally would NEVER give my child up for adoption for the fact I dont want them to come back later and ask ???'s as to why I gave them up.

I feel very stongly towards this because God Forbid I ever get pregnant I would not want to have the child, I never want kids period!

And what about those rape victims who end up pregnant would you want your little girl having a rapest baby?


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Gilbyag

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posted September 28, 2000 09:45 AM

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What ever it the law says is legal. hey Wo.... 20...... .04...... di........... n..... aawwwww hell, what ever your handle is today. Im catholic too, does that mean I have to stop masterbating and cum'n all over girls??? Does every shot have to be in the puntang?


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 28, 2000 09:53 AM

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ALthough I have never been faced with this decision and will take all percautions not not to be.....I believe if its in my body...its up to me to decide. Once its out of my body it is no longer part of myself and no longer my decision.


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PissyBlackhaus1

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posted September 28, 2000 11:43 AM

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Its 100% wrong....If you can't raise a kid...keep your pants on!!!!!! It doesn't matter hwo old the fetus is....what it comes down to is that you're killing your kid, that YOU created, and killing someone out of the womb is illegal, so why shouldn't it be when the child is inside?!?!?!

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Dark Stalker

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posted September 28, 2000 11:47 AM

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I think that abortion is necessary sometimes but should'nt be considered as a contraceptive. I think that the woman deserves the choice to keep the child or not ! It's her body after all !


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 28, 2000 11:51 AM

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Black...wow...and your a female huh...you Christian? I'd rather have parents that choose and want a kid to have one...those that do not shouldn't......You would force someone to have a kid even though they don't want it?


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Mr. T

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posted September 28, 2000 11:52 AM

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Decisions about children have to be made before pregnancy, not after. Its called being responsible-


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Weapon X

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posted September 28, 2000 12:09 PM

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Any procedure which stops a beating heart is murder. At 8 - 10 weeks, the fetus has a beating heart. Abortion after this point is murder.
Jewish law acknowledges that if the mother's life is in danger, an abortion may be performed.
I would also allow it in cases of incest or rape before 8 weeks have elapsed.


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posted September 28, 2000 12:22 PM

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Whenever I and the other person feel like it. I don't want to sound like an asshole but if some of these imbread idiots had one it might make the world a bit more intellegent in time.

And whoever says what if you were aborted?

Well I'm not so fuck off


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PissyBlackhaus1

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posted September 28, 2000 12:32 PM

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I think if the person becomes pregnant, its their own fault. Its meant to be a gift not a punishment. If the woman did not want to become pregnant, there are many precautions she could take in order to not become pregnant.
I think that if a female does become pregnant, she should be forced to carry the child to full term and give it up for adoption. THere are plenty of families that would give that baby the love it needs. I can make an exception for girls that were raped. Thats the only time I can see it being acceptable.
To answer your question, yes I am catholic, and that has nothing to do with my view on this. Abortion is wrong, just as wrong as pulling out a gun on the street and killing someone.

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posted September 28, 2000 12:35 PM

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black i wouldnt want to meet you ina dark alley

peace kb

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barney

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posted September 28, 2000 12:37 PM

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i agree with Dark Stalker, too many chicks these days (us guys have some things to answer for too) are using abortion as a contraceptive...some people are just too fucking lazy or have no real concept of what they are actually doing.
Personally , i think life starts when the 2 cells meet and an embryo is created, i dont think any of us know enough to think otherwise.I believe even the use of IVF is murdering 1000's of life forms each day, but that is my opinion and every one else is entitled to their owwn..
Touchy subject though Diggler...hey everyone , dont take all these posts so seriously, why get pissed of at someone elses opinion when this is just an open, anonymous posting board, sometimes i can imagine how fucked the crew that constantly flame here are, dudes that have been picked on from day one and never had the balls to do anything about it so they let out their frustrations here...get a life!


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 28, 2000 12:39 PM

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Mr.T....can I come live in your world...where everyone is responsible.....my world SUCKS!!! Reeks with irresponsiblity...


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posted September 28, 2000 02:22 PM

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I agree w/ blackie 100%. She pretty much stole the words straight from my mouth and typed them. Well said blackie.


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Dark Stalker

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posted September 28, 2000 02:45 PM

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Some of you forgot that a 13-14 girl who get pregnant by older dude isn't necessarily responsible (so does the prick) but you really think that she should continue her pregnancy ?


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posted September 28, 2000 02:50 PM

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BRAIN WAVES ARE PRESENT, ITS THEN LIFE.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 28, 2000 02:53 PM

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Madbomer...just how do you test for brain waves on a fetus...this I gotta hear....by the way what does that make you??


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posted September 28, 2000 11:42 PM

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Damn bigjay that was fuckin intelligent. You are obviously in high school where the shit they shovel to you kids is still fresh.
Regardless of whether or not you think that an unborn child is viable, you must agree that abortion halts the life process and therefore halts life, plain and simple. Look at it this way, is it ok to rob a bank at night before people arrive in the morning? Why not? Nobody got shot did they? Assuming that fetuses arent viable and therefore protected under the Bill of Rights, why have there been cases where criminals have been charged with double murder when they killed someone who happened to be pregnant?

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My .02 is it should be up to the women facing the hard decision, not a bunch of fucking hard leg too moral for there own good assholes, flame if you must, but I will continue to voice my opinion as long as I have the forum to do so......My opinion peeps.....As far as my personal feeling on abortion goes, I can state that I am not big on the idea, but if I was a women I would want the chance to decide for myself........

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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 28, 2000 11:59 PM

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ahhh definitions are just for lawyers.....Clinton did not have intercourse.......oral sex is not defined as intercourse or sex...what the hell.....so fetus- an unborn or unhatched veterbrate....citizen- inhabitant of a city or town.......All I know is that what happens with my body is up to me....thats a human right....I know for damn sure I'm alive and I'm a US citizen and I'm a human with rights......nobody is gonna tell me what I can and can not do with my body....


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posted September 29, 2000 12:01 AM

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weapon x,the right to own a gun should remain but the right to have an abortion should not,is that so .
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posted September 29, 2000 12:10 AM

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sourjerk
there is a difference. it all come down to responsibility. if you own a gun and use it in an unlawful manner such as killing than you should be held responsible. if you a dumb enough to get pregnant, than you deserve to take responsibility for your actions. that is the damn problem in america, people think they can just do whatever the fuk they want and get away with it. maybe if these people would take responsibility for their actions than this would be a better damn world to live in. if you dont want a kid, either take precautions or just dont have sex at all. it is that simple. with rape and incest excluded.

superdave...you read my damn mind. should murderers face two counts or not.

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Oh, since were all for choice in this country then I want the right to NOT pay child support if I knock someone up and I DONT want them to have the kid, make any sense? Once again I didnt think so. If its gonna be a choice then BOTH the man and woman need 50/50 voice in the matter or men shouldnt have to pay money for a kid they wanted aborted. And dont give me "women have to suffer through pregnancy" crap...why dont you women go fight a few world wars then we'll talk about suffering.

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That is correct, tyler durden is jack. Very perceptive.
Owning and being trained in the use of a gun involves taking responsibility for your life and those of the ones you love.
Killing a child because it's inconvenient is not a "choice," it's murder. A woman does not have a right to murder except in the
minds of selfish and twisted liberals.
The women say, "It's my body, so it's my choice!"
No, baby, it's not your body any longer, it's a little human being. Your choice was to close your legs, not to kill.
If a woman is raped, I think that being forced to bear the child would be harmful to the woman's mental health, same with incest, so I think that those two cases are acceptable, as long as the abortion takes place before th e8th week, when a heartbeat is detectable.
I love how the kind, peaceful, and loving Liberals turn so vicious when logic fails them. Hypocrites.

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tyler durden is jack

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ok first of im not a liberal never will be.
but back to the issue,can you garauntee me that every gun owner is a trained resposible adult,cut the bull dont try to make a bunch of trigger happy hicks into responsible family men.but just as its your right to play duck hunt,its a womens progative to decide if she will or will not have the child
i can just imagine what would happen if every teenager that got pregnant was forced to have that child.you cant choose to have abortion only in certain cases as you said that is a human life in there.so i guess if a women is raped for you that justifys murder.

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Sourjerk, do try to read the whole post before responding. I wrote that a woman who is raped and conceives a child therefrom should not be forced to bear the child as long as she has the abortion prior to its having an individual heartbeat.
Camn I guarantee that all gun owners are trained and safe? Nope. And can you guarantee that they are all "trigger happy hicks" as you call them? Probably not.
We are each responsible for our actions. I believe that unwanted pregnancies would drop as people realized that they didn't have this "easy out" of murder for convenience (abortion).
Clinton wants abortion "easy, safe, and rare." How rare is it? Bullshit! Abortion is on the rise.
You mention my right to play duck hunt? What the hell does that mean? I don't hunt. I choose not to. I carry a gun in case I find that my life is in immediate denger. I was in that position more than once while living in the Bronx. I refuse to be helpless again. My son needs his Dad.
Gee, I guiess you're tired of hearing hicks like me and chesty and Matt string together such incoherent sentences since we ain't larned ta rite too good.


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in an older post of yours you bashed the "make a wish foundation" because they refuse to grant wishes involving fire arms.you gave a detailed story of some kid who's life dream was to hunt(or to kill) a bear.you sympatized with his case and described how he went duck hunting and he also went hunting in the african safari.that is a trigger happy mother fucker!
to you its ok to go around shooting anything that moves but g-d forbid if a women decides to have an abortion with her body.unlike you i consider nature to be valuable and precious life forms,hunting for fun bothers me alot more than abortion...so which is it do you support life or dont you?
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i've known of people who have had abortions and though it was the hardest thing they probably ever did, who's to say it wasn't the right decision for them? personally, i would strongly consider abortion if i became pregnant and did not plan for the pregnancy. what about those fetus' that are so badly deformed that they will not survive outside the womb? what if the fetus only had one leg?


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i think i remember a older post a from dread lord guy about killing off mentaly challenged babies. you people flamed the living hell out of him. of course i do not agree with his theory but that is not the point. the point is some people here supporting abortion were flaming him. is there really a difference. in both cases the person does not want to deal with what they would call an inconvience. very sad in deed.


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Superdave,
That has to be the stupidest analogy I have ever heard...try fighting a war?!?!? The percentage of women that have kids is about 50 times higher than the percentage of men that are vets. The aspects of war are 100% different than the physical, emotional and most of all HORMONAL aspects of pregnancy. Try thinking before you start typing. Its not the mans choice for an abortion, its his choice when he sticks his dick there in the first place!!!!!!!!!!

FYI...i do see abotion as ok if the mothers life is endangered, or if the child is conceived through rape. Both of these can be proven by a doctor.
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by the way i hope you guys know that the drug ru486 has just been approved in the u.s.
its all over the news.
guess what guy's,now abortion will be available at the comfort of your home.

its also a great anti progestrone drug for you deca heads...

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well when bush is elected, he might just ban it. now wouldnt that be something.


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I SUPPORT ABORTION ONLY, ONLY, ONLY IF THE MOTHER and THE FETUS BOTH DIE TOGETHER!!!!!!

Welcome to my world.


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you guys have got to be kidding, right? legally, you guys don't have a say in what happens to the fetus, but there are so many sides to the story. no offense, but i really think it is different for a gal because she doesn't even have to tell the guy, and even if she does, he's not the one carrying the fetus. and since someone brought up war, which is worse as a type of population control? wars, starvation, disease, or abortion?


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quote:
Originally posted by devestation:
well when bush is elected, he might just ban it. now wouldnt that be something.

this is a republic
NOT a dictatorship


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quote:
Originally posted by Gilbyag:
What ever it the law says is legal. hey Wo.... 20...... .04...... di........... n..... aawwwww hell, what ever your handle is today. Im catholic too, does that mean I have to stop masterbating and cum'n all over girls??? Does every shot have to be in the puntang?

Gilbyag: I am an Ishaya, which is basically a bhuddist that believes in the teachings and practices of Jesus Christ! So I can spill my little fishes all over the place without the strains of Catholic Guilt!

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sourjerk, you equate animal life and human life? You must be Vegan then, right? Or I suppose to be consistent you must be a cannibal if you eat meat.
Hypocrisy.


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ah weapon x now it is you not reading the posts,i specifically said i am against "hunting for fun".
to hang a moose head in my living room and show it off to my beer belly hunting buddies.

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TO HE WHO ASKED... BRAIN WAVES ARE PRESENT VERY SHORTLY AFTER THE BRAIN STEM BEGINS TO DEVELOPE.

WITH BRAIN WAVES COMES THE ESSENCE OF HUMANITY. NO, THE FETUS DOES NOT CONTIMPLATE LIFE BUT ITS AROUND THAT TIME WHEN FEELINGS SUCH AS PAIN BECOME PRESENT.
I WANT TO SAY THATS AT 6 WEEKS OLD, BUT ITS BEEN A VERY LONG TIME SINCE MY MEDICAL ETHICS COURSES.


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SHAGWELL: So being responsible is a bad thing? What is wrong with thinking about birth control before you have sex?


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you should be able to kill the slug up until the 9th month. Maybe even up to two years old. What does it really fucking matter. So there is one less person on this planet to help add to the maddness. O what a tragedy! I think the abortion pill should be sold in those machines beside the gum balls.

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posted September 29, 2000 07:31 PM

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Its things like abortion and euthenasia which degrade humanity and give rise to attitudes like moe danks.

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Abortion, whether legal or not, is not going away.

But I'm against it nonetheless.

what I am against even more than abortion is the fact that many of them are paid for by TAX DOLLARS. This must stop, even if abortion stays legal.

Moe, I agree that there are too many people here. So we should start killing them off. That's a good idea. Why don't we start with someone whose crowning achievement is his grow room?

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posted September 29, 2000 07:44 PM

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OOooh. That's gotta hurt...


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I normally won't get into this, but it is wrong, it is murder and genocide.

You take an irresponsible couple and they go bang each other for 20 minutes of pleasure and she gets knocked up because they were too lazy to take the precautions. So, there ya go, the reasoning it is my body I can do with it what I want, what a cop out, you fucked up you take responsibility. I didn't want to have any more kids after I lost my girls, my first boy was born because the rubber broke and my second, was because of poor timing. Did I say ya lets have an abortion and committ murder? NO, I took responsibility for my actions and now that I have two sons, I can't dream of a life without them. I do know that a lot of woman who have an abortion have phsycological problems down the road trying to justify there actions to themselves.

Point is if you don't ever want children go get your sweet ass fixed like a freakin dog or cat. If you aren't sure or do and it happens before you think your ready, deal with it and raise that child, you won't regret.

Okay, I'm done pissing in everyones weaties.

Oh, yeah, what about partial birth abortions? You know the ones where the baby is crowning and they slaughter the infant as it is being born.

Abortion smacks of what the Nazi's and Stalin and Lennon did. Murdered over 6 million of my ancestors.

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Did anyone even look at the photo at the top of this thread? If you could see an image such as that knowing it was growing inside you and was going to be your child, I bet yout tune would change...but then again its easier to look at it from behind the computer screen.

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I wouldnt quite call my growroom a crowning acheivment. I am a good grower not a great one. However if you are going to kill off members of a species you should start with the old and weak. Of which i am neither. I agree we should start killing people, but killing off the leaders isnt the way to go about it.

PS matt i have made more money in the market than i have growing dope. Granted thats where the money came from to trade with but it takes money to make money. So my portfolio would be a better crowning acheivment than my growroom. (i know you were just being a smart ass and its cool, just cause you dont agree with something doesnt make it wrong.)

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I SAY NO ABORTION, OTHER THAN FOR HEALTH REASONS, RAPE AND INCEST.
HORRID....

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posted September 29, 2000 09:00 PM

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moe

would you do the killing or have someone else do it


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honestly if i could push a button and kill every human, including myself, on the face of the earth i wouldnt even have to think about it. I love my life, but we are a horrid species that doesnt deserve to live any longer.

I wouldnt ever have a girlfriend get an abortion, but if that is what someone wants to do i am all for it.

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Dank,

You say some funny shit.

Can your growroom ever be a crowning achievement?

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Hell yeah. If i ever get my hands on the shiskaberry from breeder steve of spice of life. That plant yeilds up to 3lbs per 1000wt. It is a afghani crossed with blueberry then crossed back into each other. He has been out for a year and a half but he will have some ready in around 4 to 6 months.

I would also like to breed out my own strain of cannabis. That is a life goal i have set for myself. Different strokes for different folks i guess.

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posted September 30, 2000 12:17 AM

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It's a woman body they should do what they want.

Then whycan't I do drugs or kill myself or kill my kid before he's 18 regardless of the reasons.

What'sso wrong about teenage girls throwing their babies in dumpstersonly to be found by the homeless the next morning?

Actually when does a woman's fetus, become a child?

I'm all for abortion if women can kill their own kids cause they can't provide for them, then I should be able to do the same once the child is born because I didn't get a chance when my kid was in her body.


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Let me throw in my .02!

I am pro-choice. This topic is so controversial I don't know why you would even bother posting it.

I don't think that you should argue for or against this unless you are at the extreme ends of the spectrum. ie. For abortion, or not for abortion, PERIOD.

Let me explain... there are those that support abortion in cases of rape or where health issues are concerned. We all know that this is not the majority of the cases.

Also, those who use abortion as a form of Birth Control are not the majority of the cases either.

I think that because of this, we should not take away the right to choose. It is a shame that a life will not fully develop (it doesn't matter what stage it is-the egg is the beginning of life), but a child born into poverty, abuse, violence, drugs, malformed, or otherwise is too sad and unfortunate to realize. Take society today.
Those kids which are not loved, and taken care of could have been spared a horrible life. The majority of us don't know a thing about, or can never have an abortion so we should keep our mouths shut.


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If the majority of abortion is not for health reasons and the majority is not for birth control, then what is the majority? Rape and incest? I think not.

Better check your facts. Abortion and the right to choose, is the Biggest copout in American history. It allows us to be irresponsible, create life and then play god, and violate the very basic ideas of the Constitution, by depriving a person (yes from the moment the sperm and egg join) of his/her right to the pursuit of Life, Liberty, and Happiness. Medical reasons, rape (maybe),but irresponsibility NO!. I said it before, if you don't want kids male or female go get your ass spayed or nuetered. If you aren't sure or do and it happens before your ready, suck it up and take responsibility.

Oh yeah, why is a woman 6 weeks pregnant can be on her way to the clinic to have an abortion (pay to have her child killed) and on the way she gets mugged, beaten and almost dies. As a result of this she has a miscarriage and the suspect is tried for the murder of her unborn child. This actually happened in CA, sometime ago. WTF is with this?

Oh yeah this RU-486, what a fucking joke, now women can kill on demand cause its my body.


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Chesty, RU-486 may be abortion on demand, but you have to crawl before you walk with this sort of thing. What I mean is when a woman takes a pill the morning after to insure abortion, she isnt sure she is pregnant, whereas when she goes to an abortion clinic, she KNOWS she is pregnant and the doctor KNOWS what he is about to do to her. The pill is much better than actually going through the process of knowingly getting an abortion in my opinion because the woman doesnt actually know she is pregnant therefore she can always say "I probably wasnt pregnant" when she takes the pill.

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Why not just be responsible and not get pregnant. With the enormous amount of pregnancy preventer's out there, you should never get pregnant unless you want to. It is just a way to let us be even lazier than we really are now.


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kill em all, kill em all, kill em all!! If it isnt your kid dont fucking worry about it. All the things that are fucked up with this planet it blows my mind someone would even give a shit either way. Then again the world needs serial killers and stripers. Without unwanted kids we would be ass out.

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The problem with planning to not get pregnant is that the act of sex in large part is a spontaneous/fly by the seat of your pants sort of thing. Since we are a nation of doing what feels good at the moment without planning or thinking about the consequences, you have about a mil and a half abortions each year.

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You are quite correct. It can be spontaneous, but what about aids, herpes, syphillas, as well. These go along with spontaneous and are sometimes synonomous as well.

It just goes back to my point, be responsible, if at the most your worried about sponteneity, take the pill, carry a condem in your purse or wallet. That way you are always ready.

Kill 'em all, we need serial killers, my friend you need help. Your right it isn't my child, but then again your not either and yet I put my life on the line for you everyday for 5 years and then for another 4 1/2 as a Deputy, (not you in general, but you get the point)


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The problem with the pill is the woman has to be disciplined to take it everyday whether or not she is getting laid, which, for some women is just too damn hard. Same thing with condoms, either the guy has to make sure he has them or the woman has to make sure she has them. Once again takes too much planning and discipline for the type of people we have in this country. Its easier to be forced to take care of something after it is a fact than before when it is just a possibility.

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You are right about the discipline both male and female. If have such a lazy society, then maybe instead of abortion we should look at complete sterilization of the populace except for those deemed to be of excellent genetic make up with the most potential to produce healthy viable intelligent offspring.

I mean, abortion is like closing the barn door after the horse escapes, the damage is already done.


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Im in total agreement with you chesty, check my posts on this thread above. Im trying to demonstrate the ease of pregnancy prevention by showing how rediculious it looks when pregnancy prevention is shown as "difficult" compared to actually getting pregnant.

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we all have to die sometime, some sooner than others. Unwanted children = rapists, killers, heroin addicts, stripers, whores, theives, crack heads, armed robbers, ect most of the time which in the long run effects me either through personal contact or through taxes going to people with 20 fucking kids.

Abortion is a great way at population control as well. If we could kill 3 million babies in our country every year that would make one hell of an impact on the population 50 or so years down the road. All the babies killed this year keeps half that many more from being born 18 years from now. Isnt that wonderful. At 3 million that would keep 1.5 million people from being here on this planet. Goddamn it just makes sense.

besides if god didnt want people to have abortions he wouldnt have created them.

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Newsflash: God didnt create abortion, He gave man free will and therefore man created abortion himself.

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moe dank you are really warped. You must have your own copy of Mein Kampf huh. I think you need to really wake up maybe see a phsycologist. I have to boys, neither was planned (defects in birth control) nor was I ready to have kids again after losing my three girls (another story) so in one sense you could say they were unwanted. Your telling me that my two sons are going to be rapists, serial killers, or worse when they grow up. Get real. Maybe we should whack all the people like you and then we wouldn't have any more hate or fear in the world.

I hear ya superdave.


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unplanned babys dont = unwanted kids. I dont want a kid, but if i got a chick pregnant you can bet i would take it myself if she wanted to get an abortion. Unwanted kids are just what it says. You want your kids so they are not unwanted. Alot of people have kids that dont want them and they see them as nothing but problems.

I am not that warped just realistic.

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