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FUCK GIRLS

You can run from a knife-wielding psycho kid who didn't get invited to a party... you can't run from a maniac wielding a firearm.

Oh yeah... those of you who are going to comment about protecting the home... see my reply to the "If you were gonna kill someone, weapon?" post - CLAYMORE BABY!

Know what the problem with the US is? (I know I'll get flamed for this... but) Too many fucking rights, man!

All y'all who are upset about this shit, get involved...even just helping some kid in the gym is a great step toward helping people's self esteem...you all have so much more power and influence than you realize...use it wisely...

The 2nd amendment was put there for a reason and that reason is to curb an over extended-over-intrusive Government. Granted at the time our founding fathers didn't envision tanks, helicopters (a permanent professional standing army) so back then theoretically the citizen armed with a musket was on an equal playing field with a soldier of an oppressive Government.

I too cringe when I hear of school violence or senseless shooting but passing laws to restrict legal gun ownership is not the answer. Criminals will always have access to firearms no matter what laws are passed.

So for you misguided few who don't value your freedoms and want Big Brother to make it all nice and safe please by all means go live in Red China or other Socialist haven. And just see how SAFE you really are.

Our country is by no means perfect, but it is the best the world has to offer. I take it the nay sayers of gun-rights have never served in the Military much less fired a weapon and have a inherit fear of something they don't understand, but let me assure you guns don't kill on their own it takes intent and if that intent is evil than let those who commit those crimes suffer the harshest of penalties. But too deny the majority protection for the stupid acts of a very small few is ridiculous.

Like a founding father once said

"Those who would give up their freedoms for safety.. deserve neither"

So there is gun violence at school... if ownership of a gun was not possible, then such violence would not occur (OR, it would occur ***VERY*** rarely). "Criminals will always have access to firearms no matter what laws are passed?" If it doesn't exist, you can't have it. Do I have access to Star Trek replicator system in my house? No... because it doesn't exist. "Oh... but the criminals could get guns from other countries." Unlike guns, steroids do not contain metal... not that hard to get gear into the country, but have fun trying to bring a gun here by practical means.

I agree, though, on the fact that our country is the best that the world has to offer. However, due to that fact, we should expect more from our country. I expect my country to format its laws in such a way so that myself, my family, and my friends are not put at unnecessary risk due to the idiocy of others. I expect my country to format its laws in such a way so that they are as fair as possible to everyone and are based upon LOGIC and FACT instead of what is popular among the citizens. And, I expect my country to punish those who commit such heinous crimes accordingly. My country does not do that. Until the day when my country does that comes, my country will not be "the best that can be offered"... it will simply be "the best the world has to offer." Big difference.

frackal...you are obviously a democrat who wants the govt involved in all aspects of you life. maybe if we had more people like bush who fries thes mutherfucker for committing crimes, we might not have this damn problem.

chaleton heston is my president and always will be. the govt will not take my freedom nor my guns and thats a fact.

The governments own statistics prove without a doubt that since the various Clinton gunbans, the resulting huge and unprecedented increase in gun ownership and concealed weapon permits nation-wide has the US expirencing the LOWEST violent crime rate, including gun crimes, in more then 40 years!

more guns equal less crime

Studies from the FBI, ATF, NSSF, Center for disease control, and all other national crime studies prove that more guns equal less crime.

Do u really think that if the government banned all guns that we would be safer then we are now?

hahaha-yeah right

Point is: That kid was NOT a criminal before he took his anger out using a gun, so YOUR point is irrelevant.

I am glad you are able to make these assumptions about me who 'wants the govt involved in all aspects of you life' after reading one pro-democrat thread.

Think whatever the fuck you want to. I'm going to bed.

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FUCK GIRLS

You're always welcome to move to the best place in the world to live, as voted by the UN three years in a row.

I wanna move to canada too.

s()(..)/'.)e/''k

Six Common Gun Control Myths

A. Myth #1: If one has a gun in the home, one is three times more likely to be killed than if there is no gun present.

1. Dr. Edgar Suter has pointed out that studies which make such claims are flawed because they fail to consider the number of lives saved by guns. That is, such claims ignore the vast number of non-lethal defensive uses with firearms.110

2. Criminologists have found that citizens use firearms as often as 2.5 million times every year in self-defense. In over 90% of these defensive uses, citizens merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off the attacker.111

B. Myth #2: Most homicides are committed by otherwise law-abiding people who end up killing a friend or relative.

1. While most murders do involve the killing of an acquaintance, it is fallacious to assume these are otherwise law-abiding people killing one another. In fact, sixty-one percent of murder victims themselves -- and an even greater majority of murderers -- have prior criminal records.112 This indicates that most murders occur between criminals who have already demonstrated a pattern of violence.

2. The problem? The criminal justice system is a revolving door which continues to throw violent offenders back onto the street. Nationwide, 70% of murderers (under sentence of death) have prior felony convictions.113 This number does not include criminals who have plea-bargained their felonies down to lesser charges.

C. Myth #3: Gun Control has reduced the crime rates in other countries.

1. England and Canada's murder rates were ALREADY LOW BEFORE enacting gun control. Thus, their restrictive laws cannot be credited with lowering their crime rates. 114

2. The murder rates in England, Canada and Japan have risen tremendously since passing their gun control laws.115 And most crime rates in England have now surpassed the rates in the U.S.:

* In 1998, a study conducted by a British professor and a U.S. statistician found that most crime is now worse in England than in the United States. 'You are more likely to be mugged in England than in the United States,' stated the Reuters news agency in summarizing the study that was published by the U.S. Justice Department (DOJ). 'The rate of robbery is now 1.4 times higher in England and Wales than in the United States, and the British burglary rate is nearly double America's.'116

* The murder rate in the United States is higher than in England, but according to the DOJ study, 'the difference between the [murder rates in the] two countries has narrowed over the past 16 years.'117

3. United States: Take away the guns, and there is still more murder. United States' NON-GUN murder rate is higher than the TOTAL murder rates in England, Canada or Japan.118 In other words, Americans kill each other more often with weapons other than guns -- such as with knives, fists and feet.

* It is absurd to claim that the U.S. has more murders because it has more guns. If one were to 'magically' make every gun disappear in the U.S., the hard fact is that Americans would still kill each other-without guns-more often than the citizens of England, Canada or Japan kill each other will ALL types of weapons.

* Fact: Accidental gun deaths among children have declined by over 50 % in 25 years, even though the population (and the gun stock) has continued to increase.94

* Fact: Despite the low number of gun accidents among children (see above), most of these fatalities are not truly 'accidents.' According to Dr. Gary Kleck, many such accidents are misnamed -- those 'accidents' actually resulting from either suicides or extreme cases of child abuse.95

* Dr. Kleck also notes that, 'Accidental shooters were significantly more likely to have been arrested, arrested for a violent act, arrested in connection with alcohol, involved in highway crashes, given traffic citations, and to have had their driver's license suspended or revoked.'96

* Myth: One child is accidentally killed by a gun every day. Dr. Gary Kleck notes that to reach this figure, anti-gun authors must include 'children' aged 18-24.97 As noted above, there were only 181 fatal gun accidents for children in 1995.

* Myth: 135,000 children take guns to school every day. This factoid was based on a survey that did not even ask children if they carried a weapon to school. The 'take guns to school' statement is completely imputed into the survey results. With regard to the 135,000 figure, Dr. Gary Kleck has shown that this number is wildly inflated.98

* Myth: There are more guns in schools today because of lax gun control laws. To the contrary, two facts put this myth to rest:

* Fact: Currently, there are strict laws that, with few exceptions, prevent adults from possessing a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school. These and other gun control laws have failed to keep guns off school grounds.

* Fact: In the past, 'guns in schools' were never a problem during the era when children had the greatest access to firearms. For example, even though there were far fewer gun control laws on the books in the 1950's, there was not a problem with illegal guns in schools. Rather, the top problems in American classrooms during that era were such (non-violent) activities as chewing gum, talking in class and running in the halls.

* More on guns in schools. So what has changed? Why do illegal guns make their way onto school grounds today, even though federal gun control laws have now grown to comprise more than 70,000 words of restrictions and requirements?99 There are several possible reasons, including:

a. Lax punishment of juvenile children. Several state studies have shown that juvenile offenders will make several journeys through the legal system before doing any time in a penal facility.100 This problem, of course, is not just limited to juveniles. A murderer of any age (in 1990) could expect to serve only 1.8 years in prison, after one considers the risk of apprehension and the length of the sentence.101

b. Imitation of T.V. violence. Before completing the sixth grade, the average American child sees 8,000 homicides and 100,000 acts of violence on television.102 Two surveys of young American males found that 22 to 34 percent had tried to perform crime techniques they had watched on television.103

same thing happened in Turkey, China, Germany, Cambodia, and a few other countrys all in the 20th century that established gun control.

Gun control simply created millions of disarmed, defenseless victims.

I want to be able to defend my family in case I ever get attacked, and to all of those people that put down the NRA and say how much better it is in Canada....fuck you all and move your sorry asses to Canada.

I am also a proud member of the NRA, and always will be

devestation and weapon x, you guys are right on the money

sourjerkkk

Are you guys serious??? they are on the verge of colapse from their welling meaning socialist programs. Ask any Canadian how great they think it is. And beleive me ain't the Canada of even 15 years ago, their liberal imigration (nightmare) program has led to immigration plague of lecherous 3rd worders sucking the life out of the countries medical and social welfare system.And costing the hard working Canadian as much as 60% in tax. Some body ask E2 how much his homeland has changed in the last 20 years (and if it was for the better)

And Warik,

I agree with you that living in a perfect world with no guns and a whole lot of brotherly love would be nice but it is NEVER gonna happen.. one thing you can always count is man killing man and the need for one man to rule over others. We live in violent world fellas always have and always will.
And for you people that say if we got rid of all guns then their would be no more shooting..and just how do you propose they go about that??? With home invasions and door to door searches???SO I guess it'll go like this "hey mister gun owner I'm just searching for the guns I'll just over look any other contra band you may have". I'm sure that would go over well with Republicans and Democrats alike.

You Sorry..Sorry people who would so readily give up your freedoms that countless millions of Americans paid for in blood make me sick.

I hate to say this but what this country needs is a good World WAR (probably with our good friends the Chinese)thin out the ranks alittle and to test men/and womens metal. Throw the worthy and and unworthy alike into the mixer and see who's still standing at the end. We've grown too complacent in our comforts of freedom and peace and prosperity.And some of the non-warriors among us have forgotten the wolf is always just around the corner.

IG

Look its the peole not the weapon.
That paint ball gun didn't get up walk out the door at shoot people.
People are responsible for thier actions - drunk driving, rape, shootings, all crimes.
Its a matter of right and wrong.

Even in Canada people like E2 are pist that they are taking thier guns.
It is true once you give up one right all of them are endangered.

Take my guns - better get my swords and then the knife collection and then the baseball bat and then so on and so on. Everything is a weapon in the hands on a person set on hurting people.

If that guy walk in that party at started hitting people with a baseball bat and took her eye out would it be any less of a crime!?

What if you didn't fight them off?

The crazy with a knife could have used a brick or a sling shot. It just shows that violence has nothing to do with guns!

Who's too say their intent was to give you a serious beating maybe they wanted to kill you and you're just lucky you didn't die.

If you were in the USA in most states you would likely (unless you're a felon)get a permit to carry a concealed weapon. And you would be fully justified in a court of law too shoot one or more assailants or until you were given an opportunity too flee. As I understand in England according to law self-defense is a no-no. But being how you�re country was a Monarchy (despotism) for most of its existence I can find that easy to believe.

BTW I don�t know about you but I would much rather be shot dead than stomped or beaten to death with a ball-peen hammer.

America vs. Britain and Northern Ireland

"Gun control" advocates often point out countries with lower firearm ownership than the USA have less homicide and firearm-related death and injury. But the fact is most had a much lower firearm homicide rate than the USA before "gun control" legislation was enacted.

If they had a lower firearm homicide rate before as well as after the "gun control" legislation doesn't that mean "gun control" had little or no effect on the homicide rate?

I refer you to http://www.ssaa.org.au where you will find plenty of data. For Britain you will see a graph using data from the UK home office that clearly shows the rate of legal firearms ownership sharply declining while the violent crime rate continues to soar.

Chief Inspector Colin Greenwood of the West Yorkshire constabulary, England, who in his book "Firearms Control," revealed that as a consequence of harshly restrictive firearm laws affecting the British public, criminal violence had increased 196% from 1981 to 1992. Similar findings occur in the U.S., where cities with more gun control to the point of banning firearms (such as New York City and Washington D.C.), are stricken with phenomenal crime rates, which throw the entire country into disrepute.

"While showing the impact of firearms legislation on violent crime may be difficult, the recent experience of Great Britain demonstrates how such legislation affects law-abiding firearms owners. Since the enactment of extremely restrictive gun controls in 1988, the number of legal gun owners has dropped by almost 19 percent. During the same period, the rate of robbery with a firearm has more than doubled, and the overall violent crime rate has increased by 29 percent. "

Source: Gary Mauser, "Gun Control Is Not Crime Control,"
Fraser Forum Supplement, 1995, The Fraser Institute,
626 Bute Street, Vancouver, BC, V6E3M1, (604) 688-0221.)

http://www.ozemail.com.au/~confiles/overseas.html

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Thursday, September 14, 2000

Paris is an international city known as a mecca of culture, cuisine, fashion and history, but its glittering attractions are increasingly dimmed by crime, guns, youth violence and poverty.
Corbis

The traditional view of Paris.

While crime rates are plummeting across the United States, France has been besieged by violent crime.

Armed robberies in Paris are up 61 percent for the first half of 2000, and authorities say kids with guns and the city's growing, permanent, poor and disenfranchised underclass are major factors for the crime increase.

Wailing police sirens, cops in hot pursuit of armed thugs, and guns drawn on the city streets are not images normally associated with genteel Paris. But the rash of crimes directed at banks and small businesses is turning polite Parisians into armed vigilantes.

"We have a crime problem in this country and it's really rising," said Alain Bauer, a French crime expert. Bauer said France is grudgingly but admiringly looking toward the preventive measures and strategies the U.S. deployed to decrease crime. "What the United States did is a lot of solutions and good results."

French police say Paris criminals are frequently young and come from crime-ridden housing projects on the edge of the city, where immigrants and the unemployed live.

"The young assault more and more frequently. It's robbery with violence," said French police officer Pascal Louchart of the French National Police. Another factor in the crime wave is the lenient French courts, he added.

Ironically, France has some of the strictest gun laws in the world. It is extremely difficult to obtain a gun legally for purposes other than hunting.

But police say these laws no longer stop the bad guys. Police searches have turned up more handguns than ever before � some stolen from owners, others bought on the black market.

And the lack of guns does not deter these crafty criminals, police say: French crooks will use knives or any other dangerous weapons.

While the authorities grapple with the problem, Paris business owners are on guard.

"We are always afraid," said a jewelry store owner, the victim of a robbery. "It's getting worse all the time."

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Kaizen

Omnia Praeclara
tam difficilia
Quam rara sunt

FOUR YEARS AGO, I wrote a check to the
Make-A-Wish Foundation to honor an
extraordinary kid diagnosed with brain cancer.

Now, the charity has dishonored him by caving in to political correctness and abandoning other terminally ill children who share this boy's passions.

Erik Ness was 17 years old at the time, and he had a simple dream: to hunt a brown bear in Alaska with his dad. The Make-A-Wish Foundation's Minnesota chapter made arrangements for Erik with voluntary assistance from Safari Club International, a hunters' association. Over 500 Safari Club members attended a fund-raising dinner
in Erik's honor; they raised $4,000 for gear,
clothing and travel.

Both organizations came under attack by
anti-hunting extremists, as did Erik and his family.
"We're going to hit the streets with signs and pamphlets and bloody their noses, and they won't recover," threatened Leslie Davis, president of the Minneapolis-based Earth Protector. Despite the harassment, Erik and his supporters held fast.

As long as a doctor approved the wish and it was within the law, the foundation had pledged "never to deny a wish to an eligible child." Make-A-Wish declared that it would not bend to what it rightly dubbed animal rights "terrorists."

Thanks to that courageous stand, Erik and his dad made the trip to Kodiak Island. They didn't get their bear on a spring 1996 outing, but the Minnesota Safari Club and Make-A-Wish coordinated a second autumn hunt that was successful. In a letter to the magazine Outdoor Life last year, Erik's mother, Diane, described the opportunities that blossomed as a result of his
Make-A-Wish-sponsored adventure:

"The International Safari Club heard of Erik and decided to honor him at a banquet. They arranged for him to travel to Las Vegas, where he met former President George Bush, former Vice President Dan Quayle and General Norman Schwarzkopf, among others. He met and made lots of friends at the convention. The International Safari Club also presented him with a fall elk hunt in Colorado.

While at the convention, Erik met David Van der Mullen from Sporting Out of Africa, who offered him a summer job in Africa working as a helper and guide. Erik was able to go on five hunts himself. It was a great learning experience and a lot of fun�

That fall Erik also got involved with the United Foundation for Disabled Archers, with whom he has volunteered as a guide for the past two years, taking disabled sportsmen hunting in northern Minnesota for whitetails. He has also duck hunted in Canada, fished at Great Slave Lake in the Northwest Territory, pheasant hunted in North Dakota and hunted deer in northern Minnesota.

Erik plans on graduating from Vermilion Community College in Ely, Minn., in May. He will have a degree in Wilderness Management. He goes to school during the week, has chemo on Saturdays and enjoys hunting and fishing whenever he can (almost every day). Erik lives every day to the fullest�"

Two months after the letter was published, Erik died of brain cancer at age 21.

Now that he is gone, Make-A-Wish has decided "it is not in the best interests of the children we serve for us to continue considering wishes that involve firearms, hunting bows, or other hunting or sport-shooting equipment."

The foundation's CEO, Paula Van Ness, said in a recent open letter to donors that the new policy is not a "value judgment," but a "safety" measure. Yet Van Ness acknowledges that "accident statistics show
fewer youngsters are hurt in hunting and sport shooting each year than in
activities as common as high school sports."

It's the stories such as your that the press seems to ignore. The only things we hear about the freaks, the crazies and the criminals.

Gee, I wonder why we never hear about all the times that a life is saved my the mere presence of a gun in tranied hands...

I have said it before and I will say it again, if you don't like guns then good for you, don't own one, don't store one, but for the rest of us who believe in our rights to bear arms and if need be disarm our government we are going to continue to stand up for what we believe in....

HISTORY....
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Are you considering backing gun control laws? Do you think that because you may not own a gun, the rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment don't matter?

CONSIDER; In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves,were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

That places total victims who lost their lives because of gun control at approximately 56 million in the last century. Since we should learn from the mistakes of history, the next time someone talks in favor of gun
control, find out which group of citizens they wish to have exterminated.

It has now been 12 months since gun owners in
Australia were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, a program costing the government more than $500 million dollars. The results Australia-wide; Homicides are up 3.2% Assaults are up 8 % Armed robberies are up 44% In that countries' state of Victoria, homicides with firearms
are up 300%. Over the previous 25 years, figures show a steady decrease in armed robberies and Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in "ridding society of guns."

It's time to state it plainly; Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws only affect the law-abiding citizens.
Take action before it's too late, write or call your delegation.

OPINION
Paul Harvey on Guns
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Paul Harvey's comment on Columbine High shootings:

How can we blame it all on guns?

For the life of me, I can't understand what could have gone wrong in Littleton, CO. If only the parents had kept their children away from the guns, we wouldn't have had such a tragedy.

Yeah, it must have been the guns. It couldn't have been because half our children are being raised in broken homes. It couldn't have been because our children get to spend an average of 30 seconds in meaningful conversation with their parents each day. After all, we give our children quality time.

It couldn't have been because we treat our children as pets and our pets as children.

It couldn't have been because we place our children in day care centers where they learn their socialization skills among their peers under the law of the jungle while employees who have no vested interest in the children look on and make sure that no blood is spilled.

It couldn't have been because we allow our children to watch, on the average, seven hours of television a day filled with the glorification of sex and violence that isn't fit for adult consumption.

It couldn't have been because we allow our children to enter into virtual worlds in which, to win the game, one must kill as many opponents as possible in themost sadistic way possible.

It couldn't have been because we have sterilized and contracepted our families down to sizes so small that the children we do have are so spoiled with material things that they come to equate the receiving of the
material with love.

It couldn't have been because our children, who historically have been seen as a blessing from God, are now being viewed as either a mistake created when contraception fails or inconveniences that parents try to raise in
their spare time.

It couldn't have been because we give two-year prison sentences to teenagers who kill their newborns.

It couldn't have been because our school systems teach the children that they are nothing but glorified apes who have evolutionized out of some primordial soup of
mud by teaching evolution as fact and by handing out condoms as if they were candy.

It couldn't have been because we teach our children that there are no laws of morality that transcend us, that everything is relative and that actions don't have consequences. What the heck, the president gets away with it.

Nah, it must have been the guns.

- Paul Harvey

The American Gun Control Act was based directly on the Nazi Law. Records even exist showing the request of the legislators to have the Nazi document translated into English.

Here is something I always found funny...you do not need a permit (other than being 21) to buy liquer, yet more people die from drunk driving than are shot by an enourmous margin. Maybe we should outlaw liquer again. And
while we are at it, cars cause thousands of deaths a year...those should probably go too. Bathtubs...got to go. Electricity...got to go. Baseball bats, knives, etc.

The bottom line...law abiding citizens do not kill people with guns (unless it is a criminal intent on violent crime, then it is open season!)...criminals do. Registration does nothing except give criminals a list of people with guns...so they can avoid breaking in on them...or know where to go when they need some.

Just my $0.02.

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Originally posted by Warik:
I swear man... EVERY announcement of some sort of violence involving weapons (be they paintball guns or a ba-fucking-zooka) pisses me off to no end. Like me or not, the 2nd amendment is bullshit and you'd be a fool to disagree. The "right to bear arms" is nothing but a guarantee that at least one person will be senselessly hurt every day. "Oh, some people have guns for protection." Bullshit. If NO ONE could have guns, then NO ONE would need guns for protection. Agreed? Someone attacks me with a knife... what do I do? Take the knife and shove it up his ass.

You can run from a knife-wielding psycho kid who didn't get invited to a party... you can't run from a maniac wielding a firearm.

Oh yeah... those of you who are going to comment about protecting the home... see my reply to the "If you were gonna kill someone, weapon?" post - CLAYMORE BABY!

-Warik

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I agree with your point about shit like that pissing you off but to think that making gun possession illegal would solve the problem is being very naive of how society is. Drugs are illegal and yet alot of people on this board probably are in possession of some type of drug. I can go out right now and get some crack if I wanted to.

This shit pisses me too off but in alot of respects there is not much we can do. The only way we will truly solve anything is through educating our youth. If you made guns illegal, it would take them out of the hands of good, law-abiding citizens and the criminals would still have them. Do you really think if they were to say tommorrow "Guns are now illegal" all the little gangbangers would march over to the police station right now and turn them in?? Hell, most of the guns they own are probably stolen or illegal in some way or another. And then where does that leave the good citizens?? Pretty much helpless.

Think of it this way. You can build a bomb out of household chemicals and you can probably find all of the instructions right here on the net. Hell, the Anarchists Cookbook has all kinds of recipes for weapons and explosive devices. So what now?? Do we start taking all these chemiclas out of the house?? No, because people who want to make a bomb will find a way somehow.

We have had weapons for years and never have we had the kind of violence from kids that we have had in the past. Why, well lets look at this. Today there are more and more kids being born to mothers who are unfit to raise kids or pretty much anyone else for that matter. And so who raises these kids? They learn their morals throught TV and movies and those are violent as hell these days.

The most popular video games are usually the ones that are the most graphic, vulgar, and violent. When I was growing up we had Atari and Super Mario. Todays kids have been growing up on games where the main objective is to shoot down the enemy and watch their blood hit the wall. To say that eliminating guns will end the problem is being very naive. Look at this example where the kid froze paintgun balls and shot at everyone. There will always be weapons to use. The key here is for us to take a stand and start educating our youth and quit letting them be raised by the TV and video games. I mean, at a young age everything a kid sees influences his personality. And can we really blame them if they have been raised by playing video games that teach them to solve their problems by killing? The only thing that will ever end this is when we learn to take the responsibilty of educating our youth and quit letting them grow up playing these games and watching this violent crap on TV and in the movies.

I don't have any kids yet but when I do, I will not let them play any games or watch any movies where violence is the theme. Sure they may get mad because all their "friends" are watching it but that's just too damn bad. We will see who is right when those "friends" who were allowed by their parents to watch that crap go out and murder ten students that they didn't like. I do support our right to bear arms. We need weapons to protect ourselves from the countless criminals who wander our streets daily.

Now I love a violent game or movie just as much as the next guy but if banning those would solve the problem, let me know where I sign up to support this. I would give up my entire violent movie and game collection if I knew it would stop this violence among our youth. And that is all I have to say.

Peace...Mav