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barney

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posted September 25, 2000 05:43 AM

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shit no, you can have her for free!
Australia has one flag, the Australian flag, not the political motivated flag of the Aboriginal people, what you americans think if Michael Johnson ran around with the stars and stripes and the flag of the Black Panthers, wouldnt you be pissed?!!
In an interview about 6 months ago Cathy said 1. she runs for herself 2.she runs for her family 3. she runs for her people (excluding any non aboriginal aussies ) no mention of running for her country, and we had this chick light the olympic cauldron.
fuck im sick of being called a racist cunt when people are doing shit like that, whos the racist cunt now???


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posted September 25, 2000 06:56 AM

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I back her up 100%, Austrailia has taken away so much from the true inhabitants of the Land, treating them as lower class and even enslaving them at certain times in History, she is a true athlete representing her people, fuck Australia.

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adawg78

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posted September 25, 2000 08:16 AM

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aboriginal people can in no way be compared to black panthers you dumb piece of shit


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posted September 25, 2000 08:27 AM

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The aboringies, as far as I'm concerned, are the first people man! Get a clue... They are way cool dude.

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barney

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posted September 25, 2000 11:02 AM

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I knew this post would get some flames and i understand that most of you guys would be biased to one side of this argument due to bias reporting on PRESENT Australian policies towards Aboriginal culture(notice present highlighted, im the first to admit previous policies absolutely sucked,)

as the T once siad " I pity the fool"......
guys i am talking about the aboriginal flag which was created in the 60's when a group of radical protesters created it in an effort to create a seperate aboriginal nation, as im in my 20's i am not SORRY for shit, i did nothing and am getting sick and tired of having to be sorry for something that was done 100-200 years ago from no fucking relations whatesover of mine, i think the aboriginal culture is something that this country should have great pride in but when you represent Australia you represent the Irish immigrants, the vietnamese, the africans, the new zealanders etc. and the original settlers(aboriginals) and you represent them under one flag which was created in 1900, when Australia become a nation.Shit, im the first to admit that the past was one of extreme disgrace for those who committed it(none being alive today) but i am not going to say SORRY for someone elses behaviour,

WE HAVE TO UNITE AS A NATION AND LOOK TO THE FUTURE INSTEAD OF LIVING IN THE PAST AND NOT
USING IT FOR EXCUSES TO INTIMIDATE OTHER RACES IN AUST SOCIETY.

The only reason Cathy lit the flame was a sign of reconciliation to the aborigianl people, fuck, its the olympics , there where a lot of other Australian Athletes who deserved this honor so much more based on THERE ACHIEVEMENTS NOT RACE!!!!!!! Cathy had not even won a single olympic gold medal at that point.
Reconciliation, we have reconciled for the last couple of decades, for other peoples mistakes mind you, like the average $250,000 per aboriginal per year that is spent on the aboriginal affairs budget and they still live in poverty....why.... because the people in charge of these organisations like ATSIC are ripping them off, not letting the money get to them, the people in the communities,and who are these people, aboriginal leaders,ripping their own people off,shit, and im the one that is meant to be sorry!
I LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE I CAN NOT APPLY FOR CERTAIN JOBS BECAUSE I AM NOT AN ABORIGINAL, WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO EQUAL OPPERTUNITIES, NOT IN THIS COUNTRY, BECAUSE WE ARE TOO SCARED OF BEING POLITICALLY INCORRECT, GROW UP!!


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barney

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posted September 25, 2000 11:07 AM

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I knew this post would get some flames and i understand that most of you guys would be biased to one side of this argument due to bias reporting on PRESENT Australian policies towards Aboriginal culture(notice present highlighted, im the first to admit previous policies absolutely sucked,)

as the T once siad " I pity the fool"......
guys i am talking about the aboriginal flag which was created in the 60's when a group of radical protesters created it in an effort to create a seperate aboriginal nation, as im in my 20's i am not SORRY for shit, i did nothing and am getting sick and tired of having to be sorry for something that was done 100-200 years ago from no fucking relations whatesover of mine, i think the aboriginal culture is something that this country should have great pride in but when you represent Australia you represent the Irish immigrants, the vietnamese, the africans, the new zealanders etc. and the original settlers(aboriginals) and you represent them under one flag which was created in 1900, when Australia become a nation.Shit, im the first to admit that the past was one of extreme disgrace for those who committed it(none being alive today) but i am not going to say SORRY for someone elses behaviour,

WE HAVE TO UNITE AS A NATION AND LOOK TO THE FUTURE INSTEAD OF LIVING IN THE PAST AND NOT
USING IT FOR EXCUSES TO INTIMIDATE OTHER RACES IN AUST SOCIETY.

The only reason Cathy lit the flame was a sign of reconciliation to the aborigianl people, fuck, its the olympics , there where a lot of other Australian Athletes who deserved this honor so much more based on THERE ACHIEVEMENTS NOT RACE!!!!!!! Cathy had not even won a single olympic gold medal at that point.
Reconciliation, we have reconciled for the last couple of decades, for other peoples mistakes mind you, like the average $250,000 per aboriginal per year that is spent on the aboriginal affairs budget and they still live in poverty....why.... because the people in charge of these organisations like ATSIC are ripping them off, not letting the money get to them, the people in the communities,and who are these people, aboriginal leaders,ripping their own people off,shit, and im the one that is meant to be sorry!
I LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE I CAN NOT APPLY FOR CERTAIN JOBS BECAUSE I AM NOT AN ABORIGINAL, WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO EQUAL OPPERTUNITIES, NOT IN THIS COUNTRY, BECAUSE WE ARE TOO SCARED OF BEING POLITICALLY INCORRECT, GROW UP!!


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chesty

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posted September 25, 2000 11:47 AM

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I can agree with your position, not that I understand Australia's politics, but in your sentiments about one flag one country one people.

In America we do the same thing. We continually apologize for the mistakes of the past committed by people who are long since dead. The United States was a melting pot of all races and creeds and now the most infuriating thing I have seen yet is the fact that you are no longer an American. You are African American, what a fucking joke, your ancestors may be from Africa, but you were born here, you are American, if you want to be African go back to Africa. I don't go around calling myself an Israeli American or Jewish American, shit I wouldn't know which ancestory to pick I have Indian, English Royalty, Irish, German, Jewish, and god knows what else.

Anyway, this response won't be any more popular than yours because it is not politically correct and most people do not know how to respond in a debate with resorting to violence and degrading language.

chesty


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shoulders

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posted September 25, 2000 07:19 PM

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A lot of foreigners will get on their high horse and say "your country treats the aboriginals bad" Do you want to be hindered for something you had no personal involvment in?
All they know (mostly) is what sensationalised accounts and propaganda about the treatment that happened many moons ago, which is no different to the treatment of many other minories in every country. The foriengners just don't understand what it is getting like to live in Australia where you have to feel bad for something that happened way before you existed and there are many jobs that I am trying to apply for that they will give preference to an aboriginal. I went too school with many aboriginals and they where the racist ones!


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Weapon X

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posted September 25, 2000 07:35 PM

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I believe you, shoulders.
Same shit here in America. Every damn race been screwed over by every other damn race. Let's all just shut up and achieve the best we can achieve in the opportunity-filled 21st Century. Go to school, get a degree, lift some heavy iron, get a job, and lift your damn self up.
Let's face it, there was some way underutilised land going on in America and Australia. The Europeans built ships and planes, and could kick the asses of those who didn't.


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Recoome

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posted September 25, 2000 09:03 PM

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I don't think she's saying anything bad about 'white' australians, she's just showing her cultural pride. There's nothing wrong with having pride in your culture and history.


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Big Mike

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posted September 26, 2000 03:51 AM

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Barney

What would happen if a white person had to say I'll run for white Australians. What would the rest of the world say?
But in her case it's ok because she black, you take your hat off to her because she respects her culture.

What alot of shit.

And as for the Americans commenting on this thread I would tred carefully lets not talk about the American Indians but stay on current avents. I spent two years in America and there is alot of racism their.


I personlly think that Australia and South Africa should of done what the Americans did slaughtered the lot.

Because now I live in country run by black monkeys who are bankcrupting us and believe America injected them with AIDS to kill them who believe HIV does not cause AIDS who believe raping women is a good thing (a rape every 26 seconds in my country)Who believe mandela is god, believe me mandela is a murdering bastard who shouldn't be alive today but thats ok he sets a bomb off in a train station killing many people and the world makes him a hero what's next the IRA winning the noble peace prise.

Whats happening in SA is a good thing reverse racism but don't worry it not going to last much longer a WAR is coming and now we play for keeps.


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Recoome

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posted September 26, 2000 04:08 AM

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LOL, why doesn't George just fucking go ahead and change the name from EliteFitness to AryanNations


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therealj

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posted September 26, 2000 04:12 AM

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I agree with you barney...I live in Canada where we have a province trying to seperate it's self from the rest of the Country. I would be pissied if someone from Quebec won the gold and started marching around with the provincial flag while the whole time being finacially supported by canada...and suposedly representing Canada...She has caused a lot of controversy in Australia and I don't think most of you americans watching the olympics on a 12 hour tape delay from NBC can appreciate it!


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posted September 26, 2000 04:47 AM

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Um, she carried both an aboriginal flag and an australian flag. She said that she felt inferior her entire life, and that now she and her people have something to be proud of. And now motherfuckers like you come up and say 'You can't be proud of your culture', 'You have equal rights now so you have to forget your history and culture'...sorry...as far as contoversy, I saw thousands of caucasian australians cheering her and respecting her cultural pride, so why don't you do the same.


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torrieb

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posted September 26, 2000 08:25 AM

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To all the people saying its ok for her to carry both flags. Its NOT ok. The Olympics is about representing your country, not the political group you feel you need to represent. The Olympics is about sport, and there is supposed to be No political agenda.

Secondly the Aborigines were NOT the first people inhabiting Australia. There was another people here first, similar to the New Zealand Maori but who were a peaceful non war like tribe unlike their eastern cousins. The aborigines felt the need to totally kill off this peaceful tribe.

Thirdly, allowing Ms Freeman to light the flame was a political statement on behalf of our pussy government we have in place at the moment. Quite frankly it was a slap in the face to all the other deserving candidates that had ACHIEVED more then her.

The world has no idea of the concessions granted to these people. Free education, Free college tuition, reserved places in governemental jobs, free housing, the list goes on and on...and this is supposed to be about equality. Please don't make me fucking laugh.


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chesty

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First, being from America, being a white man, I can sympathize with the view in this thread. We give billions of dollars to the Indians every year, we give billions of dollars in advertisment and programs geared specifically for the blacks, and if your a white, male, you are the evil one and the one that experiences racism.

The L.A. riots were a sight, on one end you had a Black man saying that they were not animals nor slaves any more and that it was the white man that has forced them to be poor and live in slums like animals. The next day, when the police were acquitted in the Rodney King case, the black community started a month long riot in LA. causing millions of dollars in damage.

So, while I don't live in Australia, I have lived in Canada, Montreal, and a lot of other places. It is all the same.

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posted September 26, 2000 02:46 PM

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In America Black people are more racist than white people because it is socially accepted that they are, I would love to trade Cathy Freeman for Al Sharpton, or Jessie Jackson.

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Pokemon

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posted September 26, 2000 03:25 PM

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will trade Cathy Freeman for ....... George W. Bush AND O.J Simpson!!!!!!!! hahahahaha

me too, I saw bunch of white bastard folks like me cheering her on, so whats your problem, .......... PUNK!!!!

As far as Im concern, Arnold and Cathy put Australia on da map, and Men At Work!!


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TxCollegeguy

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posted September 26, 2000 03:32 PM

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Big Mike

While I agree that whats going on in SA sucks you understand what it truly means to be a minority so tuff shit. If you don't like it vote for someone that will take care of your own and do the most good for what you believe in and if your not given that right then leave or do something about it...As for myself

I truly belive if the blacks in America feel they don't have a fair shake then tough shit, I don't have any sympathy for anyone that was given a chance to live, even if for a few hundred years they were slaves and had their heritage taken away it was bad but I wasn't their to stop it and generations upon generations have made attempts in some form to bring them to a level of acceptance and educational and wealth to let them compete with everyone else...

It WILL NEVER Be able to compare to the systematic extermination that American Indians endured and from I have gathered the Natives of Australia have gone threw some simiular situations in comparrison. many of them have no idea what they are today and are in a worst situation because of what has happened. In some cases such as my native American ancestors they changed with the times and continued to live on, others haven't learned that yet....Years of reservation living gave many generations no incentive to work since they were given everything and often told they weren't allowed to work except growing a little food for themselves and now they don't all know how to...The education base still isn't very good... Though from my few trips to visit a reservation as a child things have always got a little better.

My ancestors changed cause they were some of the Few cherokees that weren't murdered for their land in OK which had oil, gas, and prosperous mineral rights. The money they got wasn't as much as a non indian would have got but it was enough to get my great grandparents their own land off the reservation after they were given permission to leave...Since my great Grandparents were Children and some of the last cherokees to be captured from the North Carolina Hills and Mt.s to the west. Uncle Sam Felt they earned that right to leave

Permission to leave wouldn't that be nice to have Uncle Sam Say oh sure you don't have to live there right now, unless we say so, cause we are really protecting you from yourself

You see Big Mike Racisim and descrimination have been around for a long long time, but not all instances are the same...If reasonable attempts to protect and solidify a culture within a society are made, then it should be up to them to take that chance and make the most of it...The Blacks in SA haven't had that chance before...Given 5-10 generations down the road baring any misfortunate situations like govt collapse, and if they can increase their educational and wealth base, they might just learn not to take out their frustrations on the white people that are still their that did the same to them....


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therealj

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posted September 26, 2000 04:54 PM

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Hey Pokemon Arnold is from AUSTRIA...nice try though

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Big Mike

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posted September 27, 2000 04:43 AM

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TxCollegeguy

Blacks in SA have been given every chance of an education but the fuckers kept burning their school down and thats no joke 2 weeks ago students were told their would be no Matric farewell so they burnt the school fuck all their brothers and sister who are trying to get an education, but hey they'r black so it's okay.

And as for blacks taking their fustrations out on whites that isn't true most whites and blacks get along quiet well the problem is none of us can get jobs because the goverment is fucking us, so the only way for them to survive is rob those who have money (whites).

Racism: blacks have been killing each other for years Xchosa and Zulu even today they can't stand one another so how can they point a finger. In the past we had many Americans coming to SA to help the blacks in the struggle gues what happend to them they were killed by the people they were trying to help.

Youre right Iam a minority but I'm here to fight for my country and as I said before the war is comming and the Communist Goverment of the ANC will fall.


Why is it that every country run by blacks is a fuck up. The old goverment was unfair and I didn't support them, I know that in this thread I sound racist and maybe I am to a point. But I don't hate blacks because they are blacks rather I hate their attitude towards life, they respect no one and belive that world owes them something.

Anyway enough ranting for one day

Mike


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barney

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posted September 27, 2000 05:47 AM

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Arnold Schwarzneggar,,,ah,....that arnold...i dont think so


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