Also, she must be independent, have a brain, know what she wants, knows what pleases her and is not a quiter.

Loyalty is also high on the list, I will die for someone I care about and I expect the same type of loyalty from my girl (I wouldn't expect her to die, but the same type of devotion has to be there)

She must want to be my friend as well as my lover. She must also not be so independent that she will not allow me to pamper her.

chesty

it seems like now, you guys are so wrapped up in a girls looks, that you rather have a Barbie doll on your arm to show off, and treat you like shit then a girl who is half of what you want in the looks dept. but treeats you like a God! Why is this?

Guess what? She dumped me in an email, because I was too needy. So, you can't win or lose. It is like playing the lottery.

Why is that? You give a woman everything they desire and then some and they turn and shit on you?

Leave a bit of mystry there for her to discover and make her aways be wondering what you might do next time around. See when we have a guy giving and doing EVERYTHING for us , we really have a lack of interest in them then, cause there isn't a "surprize" in anything you do. So next time you meet a girl that you love , no matter how much you want to do and give to her, hold back a bit, let her give and do for you as well. It has to be give and take!!!!

hot face, hot body, GREAT ASS, deaf, mute and cant read english. That is the perfect girl.

I agree, I will not put myself second anymore, it cost me my job that I loved, my bodybuilding and got me no where.

After that pain from getting dumped, I feel it is much safer to be alone than experience that again.

(you see what happens when I are bored at work? I talk too much.)

"We like the Challenge" " we want what we can not have"

HELLO !!!, boys we like you "bad boys" cause there is always something to wonder about you. Always some "thing" we dont know about you. Get It? Not that you treat us like total shit or like a queen.

and the example of the looks thing :

I don't lift to meet girls, I go to the gym because it is my one thing I do well. I have been lifting for almost 18 years and only met one girl from a gym.

But, if you bust your ass to stay fit, whatever your reasons for that maybe, it still doesn't change the fact that I do not want to associate with a lazy, overweight female, who thinks being 20 pounds overweight is not bad and that I spend too much time in the gym (a whole 90 minutes a day). She needs to take pride in her appearence (not just her hair and face)

chesty

I GUESS IT IS WHATEVER LOOKS GOOD TO YOU!

I AM VERY BORED AT WORK TODAY TOO, SO DONT FEEL BAD!

The thing that frightens me the most is when it is time to become intimate, I am not even close to being good. If she will work with me and help me to relax and be comfortable around her and is understanding then that really helps.

I don't like a woman who shoves her tongue down my throat on the first kiss, yuk.

I believe that most men can be quite passionate but are afraid to be because they don't want to be embarrassed.

These are things that I am thinking of that come to mind.

chesty

The best rule of advice I can give you is to be very careful. He needs to spend a good solid year or more on his own no attachments (gf's) to be really able to deal with his new life. I have seen it too many times in the past go astray. Don't rush into anything. Hell, it has been only two months since you first dated him.

Don't let yourself be used as I was, it hurts.

Mind you , he calls me every day, not me calling him, and he even quit drinking with the guys to be with me, amongst other things... baiscally i am not pushing anything here, cause I just got out of a relationship too. I do not tell him how i feel towards him either, I am just nice enough for him to think, "yep, she likes me, but I wonder how much?" I am not one to throw my feeling out there for him to step on, ya know?

yep, I already thought about that emotional crutch thing too, that is why i wont express my feeling to him! Been there before!

Dont move in, to soon.

Have I lead astray yet?

Please dont do it, I havnt asked ya out yet... lol.

Good luck if you do though.

But hey, I hear ya. The alph female is turn'n into a, dare I say it, a...a......a......a.........a............a
girlfriend, there I said it. And shes the alph female for all the reasons you stated. Not the prettiest one in my pack... nicest body though, but thats not what keeps me want'n to keep her around. Its the entire package.

AgentShagwell, yes I am opened up and vulnerable, I am also afraid to get into another relationship and I don't like one nighters. I got fried good and it fucked me up for a 1 1/2 even now the memories still hurt. You are right there is someone out there for me and in time I will find her or she will find me.