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cm3504jm

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posted September 22, 2000 11:29 AM

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I have decided to grow my own for personal consumption . My situation is this:

How in the heck do I hide this from my wife and neighbors?

For a small operation (4-6 plants which I plan to keep at 19-25"tall), I'm trying to use the attic. I've never attempted anything like this and I have the seeds and soil already-basically ready to roll.

I'm leaning toward that self-enclosed greenhouse advertised in High Times. Is it worth it?

Any creative tips or ideas to offer would be appreciated.

Thanks

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posted September 22, 2000 11:33 AM

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My brother dont ever order shit from High Times, every time your order from them your address is given to about 100 different agencies(govt) and what you ordered as well so mofos are going to know what your plan is. The only thing that isnt easy to hide is the smell therefore your going to have to invest in, actually fuck it go to this site and click security, this should help you,peace.

Edit for this purpose:
For the smell I have used an air purifier, fan, candles, incense, depends, sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt, depends on # of plants and the strain as well.

www.hempcultivation.com

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moe dank

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posted September 22, 2000 11:48 AM

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WTF are you thinking bro. You will never be able to hide it from your wife. They know all and see all.

Second only grow outdoors away from your house. Green houses are not an option

third it is too late this year.(photo periods)

forth you cant hide it from your wife

5th she will have to bail you out when you get caught.

6th can you afford a cultivation charge on your record.

7th how would your present employer feel about you getting arrested growing the magical herb.

8th it gets too hot in the attic

9th or it gets too cold.

10th only clones are going to stay 19 to 25 inches tall and that means another growroom for your mother plant

11th your yeild from 6 clones is only going to be an oz tops and prob. only like a l/2oz per plant.

12th it just really isnt a good idea

13th even 4 plants will smell up the whole goddamn house

14th talk your wife into giving up a closet and do it right!

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posted September 22, 2000 12:13 PM

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listen to moe dank he knows his shit on this subject!! I have not talked with him but have red alot of what he has had to say!! have fun!!


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posted September 22, 2000 02:20 PM

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I agree w/ Moe, You will never hide it from your wife and if you need to, maybe she shouldn't BE your wife. So either don't grow or let her know what's up. But I think Closets are the way, you need a closed, controled space to keep all the variable (temperature, moisture, bugs, other people, shitty weather, the list is long) in check.
Also, you can really manipulate the plant life if you know how to use your light(s). Get a good book on the subject and stick to what it says. Then after you have an Idea of what your doing, you might consider changing things up. It's easy to grow weed, but it's hard to grow good quality, high yeild dope.
You can deal with the smell with ion filters and ion exchange type shit. Look into it more.


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barney

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posted September 23, 2000 07:04 AM

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go rent another apartment if you want to grow without you wife knowing man!! even if you hid it in the attic your wife would smell it or maybe she might ask questions why the utilities bill just trippled!!
check out the forums (New Growers Primer, Hrdroponically Speaking, The Grow Rooms) at Cannabisculture.com


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posted September 23, 2000 07:25 AM

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Just tell me where you are located and I'll come and help you!!!!!!!


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moe dank

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posted September 23, 2000 09:48 AM

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lol havent seen you in a while IC.

quit bothering the pot heads.lol

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cm3504jm

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posted September 23, 2000 11:34 AM

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Oh well, I guess its not in the cards for the moment.

I did order a phototron IV from the mfg, maybe I'll try 1 plant to go along with my
tomatoes this winter.

I'll try in Feb, mixing it in with my sweet corn outside.

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Checkmatebloated

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posted September 23, 2000 11:57 AM

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Man not be an smartass, but you got to know your IP is being track and your corn garden will be check around May sometime by none other than the DEA. Damn what are you guys thinking telling your plans out in public?????


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posted September 23, 2000 01:43 PM

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shit man call right now and kill that order. For what you paid for that peice of shit you could have gotten a 400wt that would yeild 10x what that will. YOU ARE WASTING MONEY.

About talking about plants on the net. They cant even keep up with the child molesters and terrorist. You think the dea is going to give a shit about a guy growing 4 plants in is attic. NOPE.

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Checkmatebloated

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posted September 23, 2000 02:17 PM

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Yes Moe, I do and since when did the DEA investigate Child rape?


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posted September 23, 2000 02:20 PM

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80 plants were seized on my reserve. Kahnawake. Damn!


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yeah bro the dea doesnt fuck with child molesters but dea, fbi, whatever federal agentcy isnt able to get involved in with weed unless the growroom is home to over 100 plants. There for it would be up to the local state police and they cant even close down crack houses so the odds of getting a knock and talk because you are talking about weed isnt very likely.

Also just saying you are growing plants doesnt give them enough evidence to just come raid your house. Hell i straight up told an undercover cop i was growing the shit and that still wasnt enough for a warrent.

You want to be really shocked check out the pot picture post on the forums on cannabisculture.com or the forums about cooking meth on hive.lycaeum.org. That site has been up since i was like 17 and no one has ever been busted because they where talking about cooking meth(federal charge)on that site.

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Pet Rock

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posted September 24, 2000 12:47 AM

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Rules for big city growing...

Only grow in the basement.. Attic will get you busted overhead..

Double insulated sealed walls (seperate room) covered in mylar not tinfoil

1500 sodium on a with fan, timer, and exaust and intake..

HYDRO AND CO2!!!

Only use one bulb (elect bill) and never go over 100 plants. It's fed time...

Don't ever use your car when picking up supplies!

Don't even think about ordering out of "high times" ANYTHING!

Clean up everything when you move..

At least thats what I have heard...


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posted September 24, 2000 09:37 AM

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pet rock if you havent ever grown weed dont tell people what not to do bro. Just a pet peeve of mine not trying to be a dick.

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Pet Rock

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posted September 25, 2000 03:25 AM

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I agree totally!

Did you think I was guessing or should I have gotten into parts per million or the formula for figuring out how much CO2 you need per hour based on the square footage of your grow room?

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posted September 25, 2000 10:08 AM

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I can tell you are just spouting off shit you have read or heard.........


Use only one bulb? why when each 1000wt in flowering cycle only cost $15 per month.

Grow only in basements? Heat build up is heat build up. If like most basements there are small windows then that isnt going to help one bit.

Walls covered in mylar? why when flat white paint is more reflective, easier to keep clean, and much more cost effective.

1500 wt sodium? Why when you get more lumes from a 1000 wt hps with a super bulb. Plus to my knowledge they only make vertical 1500wts which dont have a very good light distribution.

Never order anything out of hightimes? Shit man alternativegardensupply is in hightimes and is prob. the best company out there.

You may be a grower with limited knowledge, but I dont think so.

There may be a vancouver in washington too, but last time i looked the only one i saw was in british columbia.

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posted September 25, 2000 10:13 AM

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And that my friends is why his handle is simply Moe fucking Dank. I use one flourescent bulb for 500 plants and then add 1 red spectrum during the flowering to make the buds bud faster, I have actually heard that one before.

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posted September 25, 2000 11:00 AM

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And dont forget the ever so present black light theory. For some reason every wanna be grower thinks black lights are what you use to grow weed.

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cm3504jm

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posted September 25, 2000 11:18 AM

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FUCK IT!

I give up on any and all attempts at this.

Way too much trouble for what I'm looking for.

I cancelled the phototron, gave the seeds to the lady next door, and I guess now I'll devote my time to growing dainty lil'orchids and such shit

Next thing you know I'll be watching Golden Girls reruns.

I need to hit the gym in a baaaaaaaad way!

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Shit man i didnt see you live in cali. Just plant about 10 seeds in your back yard next year. Only thing they do if they catch you with such a small amount is make you goto a drug awareness class then they drop the charges.

california = dope growers heaven

buy a 400 or 600wt HPS from alternativegarden.com and roll with it. Email me if you need any info on setting something up.

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Pet Rock

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posted September 25, 2000 06:56 PM

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There was so much ignorance to this flame I had to pick it apart bit by bit.....

<<I can tell you are just spouting off shit you have read or heard.........

Moe, you have a way to grow and so do I but to think there is only one way is pure ignorance. You obviously have never grown hydro and obviously were very lost in my post.. Maybe I am talking about something you don't know about???
There isn't a way to prove that I made over $10,000 every ten weeks but the knowledge that I did it and you can't make me chuckle

<<Use only one bulb? why when each 1000wt in flowering cycle only cost $15 per month.

Dude not sure about your elec bill but mine was a hell of alot more the $15 a month..


<<Grow only in basements? Heat build up is heat build up. If like most basements there are small windows then that isnt going to help one bit.

Did you miss the original post??? It's a seperate room you build in the basement we have special cop helecopters that sense excess heat.. this hides it as much as possible.. 2x4 construction double insulation sealed walls.. Have you never heard of this?? it's the staple for a good hydro setup.. It has a intake and a exaust.. A fan on the rotating hood and a couple over fans throughout. I am starting to think you have never grow hydro....

<<Walls covered in mylar? why when flat white paint is more reflective, easier to keep clean, and much more cost effective.

I have tried it both ways and I like mylar better but it might be personal preferance.. BTW mylar isn't very much..

<<1500 wt sodium? Why when you get more lumes from a 1000 wt hps with a super bulb. Plus to my knowledge they only make vertical 1500wts which dont have a very good light distribution.

1500 HP sodium if you don't know what they are or have never used them then how can I help you?

<<Never order anything out of hightimes? Shit man alternativegardensupply is in hightimes and is prob. the best company out there.

Where I live... Portland OR ohh right across the river from Vancouver WA (you really should open a map someday) There are lots of shop you can buy everything you need.. I have never had the need to order out of a mag but it really doesn't seem to smart to have shit sent so the same address you are growing at does it????

<<You may be a grower with limited knowledge, but I dont think so.

Okie dokie but like I said before.. Just because you don't know about it dosn't mean it doesn't exist..

<<There may be a vancouver in washington too, but last time i looked the only one i saw was in british columbia.

See above.. You see I quit growing long ago and have no prob with telling people where I live.. Well down to the city that is..


So you have skipped over parts per million and the formula for CO2.. Do you even know what I am talking about???


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First off each 1000wt on 12hours per day uses 12 kilowatts of electricity 12kwhx.06 is .70 cents per day x 30 is $21.00 per month. Depending on where you live it can me .03 cents per kwh or up to .12 per kwh.

I havent ever grown hydro. I have grown areoponics but I and everyone else like organicly grown herb. It taste sweeter and isnt as harsh. Hydro doesnt add potentcy. Just yeilds more, faster, and makes the pot stink to high hell.

Your magical helicopters have what is called thermal imagery. You build your magic box it wont help a goddamn thing.

You keep running your goddamn mouth about parts per million and co2. WTF do you want to know about it MR 14lbs from 18 clones. get lost chump you need to do some more reading.

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Pet Rock

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posted September 25, 2000 10:31 PM

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Moe,

I think it's very funny that you can't admit you might have open you pie hole a little to fast.. If you have never grown hydro then you know nothing about it! Your first post to me stated that your "pet peave" was people commenting about stuff then know nothing about.. I think you should take your own advice.. I have been reg here since Oct 98 yet I have only made a little over 100 posts.. You make over 2400 in less than 4 months.. Looks like maybe you should read a little more and not be giving orders for people to "go away"...

So you say my room on the basement won't do shit against the helecopters but again you are talking about something you know nothing about..

BTW just because someone proves you wrong doesn't make then a chump.. It makes them right..

Put that in you pipe and smoke it..

P.S. My pet peave is people that throw some seeds outside and call themselves growers.... moe....


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Lets stop this shit, Moe grows, I grow, Pet Rock you grow and so do others here on the board, instead of going back and forth lets help each other, we can all learn from each other.

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posted September 25, 2000 10:55 PM

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you arent even making sense anymore. Enough is enough, we both know the truth. Dont we.

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Pet Rock

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posted September 25, 2000 11:14 PM

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You got it havoc.. Actually I don't even grow anymore.. To risky.. I quit 5 years ago.. All I got from growing was a nasty drug habit and a record.... When I quit growing I was
6'0" 185 29% BF
five years later
6'0" 245 12% BF
Guess you could say I have a new addiction...
Nice chatting with you moe.. Good to see I got your panties all in a bundle..

BTW quit asking.. I won't teach you how to grow...


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Hindustan

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posted September 25, 2000 11:38 PM

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Forget it... The smell, possible divorce, using high-times (Fed owned) as an information gather. TO much to risk


Vic


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