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chesty

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:Phx, AZ USA!
Registered: Sep 2000

posted September 21, 2000 12:54 PM

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Do you think this response would be too much? I don't want to jeopordize my future.

Mark,

Did you even let Kim read the letter? I am sure she is quite capable of calling or writing on her own in response. Leave the Pleakes alone? They are the ones that have asked me to stop by whenever I am in town. It must be that you are afraid that I will meet my daughters on a visit to the Pleakes.


I received your letter the other day and couldn't help but notice how it was all about what you did and how you were there for them and on and on.

I am going to set the record straight right now. I did not leave Kim nor abandon my children. If going to college and working is abandonment then I am guilty. But, it was Kim that called me at school one day in early September and told me she was going to Phx. Well, four months later she still would not come back. It was then that I found out you and her had been seeing each other during that time, in what capacity I don't care. You were the prime reason we ended up divorced, you and the church youth group.

Second, you are the one's who moved to Seattle, and shacked up with each other before the divorce was final, all with the intention of making it impossible for me to see my daughters (yes, they are mine) I had already filed bankruptcy in order to pay the child support I and Kim agreed upon, and then, out of the blue Kim tells me that she wants the rest of the child support the court ordered her and that if I did not start sending it she had the papers there to file for the balance of the back child support. Well, let me see, you live 2000 miles away, I am sending half of my income to you for support and I am suppose to fly up to see my kids at your convenience. What a nice arrangement you two had. So, I did the only thing I could do, which was to allow you to adopt them and that was under the pretense that Kim had promised me visitation with my daughters after the adoption was final. I trusted her and as much as I dislike you, I trusted you with my family and you two were nothing more than a couple of hypocrites.

You want to keep me from seeing my daughters so be it. In two years Elizabeth will be 18 and there will not be a damn thing you can do to prevent me from contacting her. And when I explain to her what really happened I think you two are going to be left very lonely because she will tell Sarah and Brittany as well and they will realize that it was you and Kim, not I, that lied to them.

I have always wondered what you have told them about me and after reading your letter I know exactly what you have said, and none of it could have been the truth or good. Why else would my own daughters want to have nothing to do with me and as you putted are not interested in seeing me. I don't understand why you are so insecure in your relationship with Kim to the point of feeling threatened by me wanting to visit with my daughters. You know how I feel, I think not, you will never know how I feel.

As for being there for my daughters I was there, always, I always provided for them and if I chose not to worship Kim to the exclusion of all else then that I am guilty of. I went to college to be able to give to my family what they deserved, I have a degree now in Engineering living a life that could have been theirs as well, but Kim abandoned me, took my kids and shacked up with you.

Send pictures and cards and you will scan them? Please, I have done that every year for the last ten years and how many have they gotten? None.

Mark, in closing, your fantasy with Kim is coming to a close. There is nothing you can do about that. No matter how many lies and half truths you tell, the fact of the matter is, It was I and Kim that created Elizabeth, Sarah and Brittany, NOT YOU! And if you continue to hide behind your fantasies and lies you will eventually turn my daughters against you.

Steve


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Rotten

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From:I'm in your daughter's bedroom right now.
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posted September 21, 2000 01:31 PM

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Damn Chesty, I'm not serious about alot of things, but I think this derserves total honesty. This has got to be one of the most heartfelt letters I have ever read in my 29 years. I can tell by this post and the one preceeding that you were trying to do the best thing for your family, no matter how much it hurt you to do it. I think your ex is a fool, and her new husband is a bastard for ever trying to take your place. I hope you never give up trying, and one day you will have your daughters back. I have a stepson who tells me that he wants to have my last name, and I tell him that his daddy is very proud of him and his dad would be devistated if they didnt have the same name. He is six, so he doesn't understand yet.

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WODIN

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posted September 21, 2000 01:37 PM

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Chesty, I feel for your bro. A word of advise in these matters. If you're going to court don't give him any form of ammunition to use against you. And believe me I could take the letter you just laid out and come up with some solid counter attacks.

I would issue a "heart felt" plea to him to abide by the terms of the original agreement and not mention any form of recourse that you are taking in order to see your girls. Then I would give copies of everyting to my lawyer to use against them.

Remember bro, you are going in to battle and the master Sun Tzu always says the greatest advantage is one where your enemey doesn't know your his enemy. Play him up then kick his ass.

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Weapon X

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From:Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
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posted September 21, 2000 01:38 PM

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Chesty, don't put any of this in writing for them to use against you, and do not reveal to them any plans you have for when your daughter turns 18, etc.
Play all of your cards close to your vest. Minimize sharing with the adults (I know this is hard, I've written many heartfelt letters that I wish I could take back.)
Take this energy and emotion and channel it into letters that you will give to your kids when they are old enough to understand them. Save the letters and give them to them personally.
The adults involved already know who's lying.


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chesty

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posted September 21, 2000 01:45 PM

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I agree with what is said here, It may be that silence is my best weapon, I think I will just write letters to the girls and send them more pictures and hope that they let them read them. I know someday they will want to know the truth and want to see me.

thanks again everyone,
chesty


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The Canadian Oak

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From:brantford,ontario,canada
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posted September 21, 2000 01:47 PM

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some people are assholes bro i really feel bad that u cant see ur kids i cant understand because im only 16 but i wouldnt be able to deal with that ur a strong man,i would have killed the guy by now

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PissyBlackhaus1

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posted September 21, 2000 01:57 PM

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Chesty,
ALL I WANNA DO IS GIVE YOU A GREAT BIG HUG for all this shit you've had to go through. Your ex will realize one day the mistake she has made by not letting her daughters see their biological father. You're part of their life, even if you're not there. I think you know that you cross their mind each and every day and that they wonder about you..They have to! You're ther father and no stupid court document is ever gonna take that away. If you need anything, don't hesitate to ask...I'd be happy to help in whatever way possible...

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special_bill

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From:NE alabama
Registered: Jun 2000

posted September 21, 2000 02:20 PM

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chesty- you sound like a good man who would have made an excellent male role model for your girls....my sincere condolences that you were not allowed to be that person...


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chesty

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:Phx, AZ USA!
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posted September 21, 2000 04:34 PM

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I have made an appointment with a lawyer two weeks from now. I have decided to not write any letters until I talk to the lawyer and see exactly how I should word the letters and what would be safe to say. I have waited ten years a few more weeks won't kill me.

chesty


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Slopain01

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From:RETURN TO SENDER
Registered: Sep 2000

posted September 21, 2000 04:45 PM

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See in the old days this didnt happen, b/c in the old days - that fuck would have been beaten to shit, and everyone would know why. No lawyers, just right/wrong. Messing with a mans family is wrong.

Slopain


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Weapon X

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posted September 21, 2000 07:40 PM

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Good way to keep your cool, chesty. We're pulling for you.


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