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johnny_lats

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posted September 19, 2000 01:50 PM

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My wife will be giving birth in about two more months. We know it will be a boy.

I am circumcised but always thought it would be more natural to have a foreskin. My wife wants our son to be circumcised.

Who here has foreskin and who does not? Also, has anyone here been circumcised later on in life and as such has experience both with and without foreskin?

I am having a hard time convincing her.

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posted September 19, 2000 01:52 PM

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I think I'd let him decide when he's old enough.


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JohnnyO

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posted September 19, 2000 01:58 PM

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they still do that today? I dont think there is a good reason to circumsize anymore, is there? I know originally it was to help prevent infection, but today we have Dial antibactirial soap!


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posted September 19, 2000 02:04 PM

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JohnnyO is correct the medical benefit from circumscision is no longer valid. The medical community is divide, but as long as its kept clean your boy would be fine. I am cut personally and definately think it is more appealing to look at for the ladies. Most girls tell me they prefer it cut, but many don't mind either way.


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posted September 19, 2000 02:24 PM

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dont do it...let him have it done when he's 18 if he really wants it removed...


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posted September 19, 2000 02:25 PM

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It is not necessary for Gentiles.


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posted September 19, 2000 02:43 PM

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I had it done when I was about 8 years old, I think it is much better to be circumsized. Trust me on this one. It feels much better too, like your dick has just been set free.


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I am, but my post here is to relate a friend of mine that had this done in 5 grade....He couldn't hardly move around for a few days, and for a few weeks he walked like John wayne...said he was ashamed cause he was walking like he had a backwards weggie....That is what I remember, and hell if I new what the hell he was talking about at that time...poor guy...


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posted September 19, 2000 03:58 PM

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there really isnt any medical reson for it, It also removes thousands of nerve endings, I thought most were get'n away from it??? I dont know, thats just what I thought, but the decision is really yours. those that had to have it done later in life is because their parents didnt/or didnt teach him how to bath properly.


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posted September 19, 2000 03:58 PM

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NO! Don't do it!

Why on earth would you?


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posted September 19, 2000 04:44 PM

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I'm not telling what to do but I my son will be circumised when and if I have one. I was and he will be too. Eventhough I know it's pretty much an American thing when it come to non Jews being circumsised. But hey I'm an American and 1/4 Jew too but I thinks most males in the US are circumsised I have no numbers for you.

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posted September 19, 2000 04:53 PM

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i hvae none and ive heard that your knob is more sensitive during sex if you have it because its protected against rubbing ont hings all day so when the friction from sex is there its senesitive,it may not be the case for everyone but ive heard a few ppl on the sunday nite sex show talking about it

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posted September 19, 2000 05:16 PM

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Heres a good reason E2, it looks creepy. There is no medical reason to circumcise but it will definatley save your son some embarrassment with the opposite sex. (The "what the hell is that thing" type of embarrassment)


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posted September 19, 2000 05:17 PM

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eww
circumsise
(as in get him circumsised)
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posted September 19, 2000 05:24 PM

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dread lady, it's not THAT bad... I don't think any of the hispanics down here in Texas are circumsized.. so it's pretty common not to be circumsized down here.

at least the hispanics i'm familiar with..


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posted September 19, 2000 05:26 PM

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True, but as my personal opinion, I can't say I'm too fond of uncircumcised

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posted September 19, 2000 05:54 PM

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posted September 19, 2000 06:00 PM

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its better to be circumsized..much cleaner and no cheese cake...


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posted September 19, 2000 06:09 PM

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You only have the cheese cake if you don't wash!

And dread lady.. if Oscar Delahoya came to you and wanted to be your boyfriend.. you would turn him down? hehe..


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posted September 19, 2000 06:15 PM

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CUT IT !!!!!!
An uncut tool is UGLY, it's meant to be showed off! Would you rather have not been snipped?.....didn't think so!

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posted September 19, 2000 06:26 PM

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I'm cut, but yes, I wish I was not -- I think foreskin was put there for a reason.

Uncut bro's, back me up. E2, Gilbyag -- you bro's uncut? -- it is the way it was meant to be right? Now I've got to work on my wife.

Thanks,
Johnny


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JohnnyO

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posted September 19, 2000 06:33 PM

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I understand if you have a foreskin, sex is much more enjoyable as it makes the head very sensitive.

And if you are cut the head is constantly rubbing against your clothes and it makes it less sensitive.


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I'M NOT. GROWING UP I WAS INSECURE THOUGH.I NEVER HAD ANY COMPLAINTS.BESIDES WHEN ITS HARD YOU CAN BARELY TELL.I HEARD THAT WHEN YOU GET OFF, THE EXTRA SKIN GOES UP OVER THE TOP CAUSES MORE PLEASURE.I DON'T MIND BEING UNCUT,MORE NATURAL.


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posted September 19, 2000 06:44 PM

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haha... i felt insecure because I was cut! the school I went too the majority was uncut.


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I am uncut and don't plan on getting cut!!! It is more sensitive due to the fact the head is always covered. The uncut dude's head is rubbing against clothes all the time. It makes the surface more desensitized!! It is proven. Sex is much better, At least that what researchers say! Plus when it's hard it looks just fine!!!


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The foreskin serves exactly the sam epurpose as the hood of the clitoris. Look at it: structurally, they're the same.
There is no reason to circumcize a healthy baby boy. Even Doctor Spcok agreed on this!
For Jews, circumcision is a sign of their Covenant with G-d, and it is therefore absolutely necessary for me to circumcise my son. But for a Gentile, no reason.


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Being the mother of girls, THANK GOD I did not have to make this decision. I was always told that the reason for circumcision was that it was "healthier". We didn't know what the gender of our first child was before it was born and LIKE A SHEEP, I decided that OF COURSE any son of mine would be circumsized!.....until I gave birth. I had bruising and swelling and stitches OUT THE WAZOO, so to speak. The pain was unimaginable! (For the brothas - NO EXAGGERATION, for the sistas who have been there - you KNOW what I'm talking about!)

It was after suffering through the pain of the after-effects of childbirth that I realized how TORTUROUS it must be for a newborn to urinate or sit in a soiled diaper with his healthy foreskin having been RIPPED from the head of his penis. I'm not jewish so after I researched and found that THERE WAS NO LEGITIMATE MEDICAL REASON FOR CIRCUMSIZING A CHILD I came to the decision that I would NEVER ALLOW ANY SON OF MINE TO BE SUBJECTED TO SUCH TORTURE. My husband is circumsized and was very much in favor of it. "How am I going to explain to him that he looks so much different than daddy?" was his arguement.....like my body looks EXACTLY the same as the bodies of my daughters. (Yea, REAL GOOD ARGUEMENT!) So you all can imagine the controversy that was ignited.

I am a first generation off-the-boat Europian American and NOBODY (other than jews because of religion) circumsized their sons. My father, brother, cousins, uncles - NOBODY! I did ask my bother about the sex issue and he never had a problem with girls or with kids in the locker room at school teasing him. He always said that you're supposed to know a girl before you drop your drawers and how well do you know someone if they would make fun of your body? We went to school with an ethnically diverse group of children so some were "intact" and others were not.

My sister and her husband have three children: one girl and two boys. My brother-in-law is circumsized yet my nephews ARE NOT. Soap does wonders! No male member of my family EVER HAD AN INFECTION or any other problem that would warrant such a horrible procedure.

Females by design are very prone to infection. Should we also surgically alter them?

I don't mean to offend anyone. I understand and respect religious rituals. However, if this is not the case - I believe that this outdated, unnecessary procedure is cruel and inhumane. I would've divorced my husband before I would allow my defenseless newborn son to be mutilated so his penis will be "more aesthetically pleasing". A dick is a dick. Sorry guys, but they are all ugly. All that matters is that it functions properly ( ) and that they guy who is attached to it is a decent Joe.


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If you decide to have it cut, INSIST on a local deadening agent. I don't care what anyone says about it "not really hurting" or "they won't remember it" this is BULLSHIT.
It really pisses me off that in this day and age little baby boys are having a chunk of the top of their penis literally cut off. The general concensus being "oh it'll be alright" "the nerve ending's haven't really developed" Please! I have heard it all.This is a barbaric practice when done without any kind of deadening agent. Whether it be religous or not there is no excuse for causing your own flesh and blood pain. I have no personal experience with the uncircumsized so I can't really say much on the whether it's better or not with or without.


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TGirl - sista I asked my obgyn about some type of local anesthetic and the response was that because his member is so small and the affected area would be even smaller that the benefit would outweigh the risk. I honestly don't remember THE EXACT rammifications of using a local anesthetic all I remember was that they were REAL BAD (something about veins collapsing)! So, of course, my decision was NO WAY!

And you all do know that there are MANY regions in the world that subject there female children to circumcision! These girls ARE old enough to remember and it is nothing short of CRUEL and INHUMAN!!! Many die from infection or bleeding to death.

These children are anywhere from age 4 to 8, I beleive and they are led to shacks - completely UNAWARE of what is about to happen - where their entire clitoris is cut back and their vaginal opening is stitched up so small that it will only allow the menstrual flow to leave her body - if she lives long enough to menstruate, that is. There is no anesthetic and the instruments are usually rusty, dirty knives and scissors, etc.

Now what is the purpose of such a procedure? Tradition. This way the men in these cultures are insured a virgin on their wedding nights. And even though the mothers of these girls remember the pain and agony they went through, they subject their daughters nonetheless because they believe that death would be a better alternative for their daughters than the risk that no man will want to marry them because they are not circumsized subsequently there will be no guarantee of the girls virginity.

And what are the life-long ramifications to the woman if they survive this barbaric procedure? Because the clitoris has been removed and the vagina stitched all but closed intercourse EVERY SINGLE TIME will be void of any pleasure WHATSOEVER and INCREDIBLY, UNIMAGINABLY PAINFUL! And what of childbirth? The excess folds of skin have also been removed and ,again, the vagina all but stitched closed - as if giving birth wasn't already painful enough - I CAN NOT BEGIN THE IMAGINE THE AGONY - and I've had a few babies myself.

Why would any man want a woman who will not only NEVER ENJOY sex but would shudder at the mere idea of it? (Remember, sex is how one becomes pregnant.)

So, there you have it. Whether we are talking surgically altering a child's gentalia for aesthetics or tradition, my personal opinion is clear - NO HOW, NO WAY!


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i realize there is no medical reason to be circumsized but im glad i am because i would feel weird if i didnt,i remeber when i was like 5 or whatever at my cousin and we bathed together and eh wasnt circumsized and it looked fucking weird i like my muahroom always being a mushroom

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Catholic Mexican Indian American here:

BIGGER, LONGER & UNCUT!

Ive never had a problem with mine, never had "cheesecake" as someone put it, no infections, heard of them, in my opinion you must be a nasty ass to begin with.
Not embarrased cuz my town was half Mexican and over half Catholic, so showerroom situations were no big deal.
Now, what most of you are afraid of, looks... funny how when you talk to a girl she gets a bit freaked out about a uncut pepe. Ive never told a girl I was uncut before hand, and guess what, they cant even notice it until I point it out (a few fuk sessions later). Then they get very curious and start to check it out. Then their fears about it go away cuz they find out there is no difference. I have NEVER run into a girl whos had a problem with my being uncut. I think its a misconception put out there by those that are cut. You just couldnt imagine it any other way, well guess, what, I couldnt imagine being cut, nor have I ever wanted to. WHY?! About the sensitivity thing, yea, I think its true. Blow jobs are awsome, sex is great. I can beleive one can loose sensitivity, I guess Id compaire it run'n around without shoes, your feet would eventually tough'n up, same with your pepe constantly rubb'n agains your undies.

But hey, to each his own.

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Bikinimom, I have heard of that being done to girls, I think muslim usually, I think that is one of the most dispusting things I've ever heard of. I think the men of today are paying the price that our ancestors created for us with all these "traditions" (Injustices to women)

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It's funny but circumcision is mainly a north american thing now, frankly over in europe the majority of people aren't circumscised .

Mt T there is no embarassment with not being circumscised, perhaps you would find it embarassing but i've never had a problem. Oh and for all you guys who are circumscised i do really feel sorry for you, as your nerve endings in the head of your penis( the most sensetive area as we all know) have been desensetized so unfortunatly you have no clue how pleasurefull sex can really be. You've all lost a ton of feeling and unfortunatly you've been robbed of experiencing true exstacy!

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I remember back in college at the fraternity house, during hell week any pledge that was not circumsiced was call a anteater for obvious reasons, Personally I got mine hacked off in the 6th grade so I never got the chance to experience sex being uncut. Oh well.


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I'm cut, wish I was not. There is no valid reason to do it. Any chick that thinks that uncut dicks are attractive is wierd, every girl I know sez that all dicks look wierd cut or uncut. And if your girl really cares, then she is prolly putting too much thought into it. Its just a dick. And oh yeah, when the doc cut mine, he REALLY messed up, its pierced in two places, and the head is scarred too. I think the analogy of cutting of a girls clit hood is a good one. Would you do that to your baby girl? Didn't think so!


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There really is no reason to have your son cut. I dont care what anyone says but the foreskin is there for a reason. Circumsized men are much more likely to get penile cancer than non-cut men. The only reason its an aesthetic problem for some is cause they are not used to it. There is no medical reason for preforming circumcisions....the reason so many people do in the states is that after the 2nd world war the US saw a rapid influx of jewish doctors...
no one i know in europe has been circumsized
and i've lived in alot of european countries and have traveled alot.
Its your sons body, dont fuck with it.
Your wife shouldn't even have any say here.


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The reason why circumcision is so widespread in the States(and other English-speaking countries like Canada and Australia) has nothing to do with Jewish doctors (why would Jewish doctors want to circumcise Gentiles in the first place? That would go against everything that Judaism stands for). In the late 19th century, because of culturally repressive attitudes associated with the Victorian era it was believed that circumcision would lead to decreased rates of masturbation. This was a time when table legs had to be covered because that was considered extremely improper. Within a generation, the practice of removing the foreskin became more and more prevalent, until it reached its peak in the mid-1990's. The rate of circumcision (of newborns) in this country is now roughly 50%, down from 90% only a decade ago. If its done for cultural and religious reasons (like if one is Jewish or Muslim) that's understandable but claiming that circumcision is absolutely necessary is erroneous. There's is a reason why this type of surgery is elective.


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Do it bro. Whats the problem. He is too young to know whats going on. I had mine done and i dont remember it. I also think it looks better. Uncircumsised looks sloppy or like a wet balloon.
It wont hurt, can only help (apperence wise)


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im circumcised !!!!
its an old egyptian tradition since the pharoahs days , i didnt think its done outside the middle east !!?
do u have any middle eastern racines bro ??
i didnt try to live with this extra skin so i dont know if its better or not !!
i think it looks better without it !!!
the only thing is that i heard it hearts a lot when done too late !


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Hell YES. Having an uncircumcised penis can bring alot of problems during adolescence and later on. Plus its alot more hygenic.

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posted September 22, 2000 09:57 PM

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cut it..........snip the tip.....its more appealing to girls....BTW my head seems to have plenty of feeling.


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