RALPH NADAR FOR PRESIDENT!

VIVA LA RESISTANCE DES DUECE PARTIES !!!!
VOTE - NONE OF THE ABOVE!!!

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Originally posted by bad brains:
Hey wodin, I like how you use the word "shrub", referring to Bush, another motherfucking punk ass bitch lying ass politician, fuck em all they all suck, learn this Diggler, who the fuck cares about all your little soundbites on gore, I sure the fuck dont....show me a decent candidate and I might listen to the shit your talking....

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you obviously do care
otherwise you wouldnt have bothered to share with us how incredibly stupid you are

just a few more algore lies.....

DEBATING BUSH
July 16, 2000; NBC'S Meet the Press
CLAIM: "I've accepted for two or three months now your invitation to debate on this program," said Gore on NBC's Meet the Press. "How are you going to persuade [Bush] to say yes, Tim?"
Tim Russert: "Well, maybe you're helping today."
Gore: "Well, do you think so? But what kind of approach � can you get Jack Welch involved?"
TRUTH: On the Today show on September 4, Gore refused to make good on this pledge.
Matt Lauer: "I do want to remind you that back in July, you had already agreed to the Meet the Press debate with Tim Russert."
Gore: "Sure."
Lauer: "Why now reject it?"
Gore: "I still agree to it. But first, let's do the commissioned debates."

SOFT MONEY
March 15, 2000; CNN
CLAIM: "What I did yesterday was to call on the Democratic National Committee�and they'll comply with this�to not spend any of the so-called soft money on these issue ads unless and until the Republican Party does."
TRUTH: "The Democratic National Committee announced a $25 million summer ad campaign, paid for with soft money. The Republicans, so far, have not bought ads with soft money for Bush." (for full story, click here.)

TEXAS GOVERNOR
May 2, 2000; Washington Post
CLAIM: "You know [Bush] has never put together a budget. The governor of Texas is by far the weakest chief executive position in America and does not have the responsibility of forming or presenting a budget. He's never done that."
TRUTH: Texas law defines the governor as "the chief budget officer of the state" and orders him to distribute his budget to every member of the legislature. And Bush, in fact, has formed and presented budgets as governor.

BUSH CRIME RECORD
May 2, 2000; Atlanta YWCA speech
CLAIM: "Under Bush, Texas' recidivism rate has increased by 25 percent."
TRUTH: Nobody knows what has happened to the recidivism rate under Bush because those figures haven't been published, due to extensive lag times in reporting. The most recent numbers are from 1994, according to the Texas Criminal Justice Policy Council.

BUSH DEBT PLAN
April 25, 2000; Association for a Better New York speech
CLAIM: "He provides for no reduction in the debt � and no reduction in interest on the debt."
TRUTH: By promising to reserve excess revenues generated by Social Security payroll taxes for Social Security, Bush essentially promises to retire federal debt with this money.

BUDGET SURPLUS
May 2, 2000; Washington Post
CLAIM: Describing the Clinton administration plan outlined in the 1999 State of the Union address to have the federal government invest some of the budget surplus in the stock market: "We didn't really propose it. We talked about the idea."
TRUTH: Page 37 of the Clinton administration budget submitted to Congress in February: "The President also proposes to invest half of the transferred amounts in corporate equities." From last year's budget: "The administration proposes tapping the power of private financial markets to increase the resources to pay for future Social Security benefits."

TOBACCO #1
March 1, 2000; San Jose Mercury News
CLAIM: �It�s not fair to say, �Okay, after his sister died, he continued in the same relationship with the tobacco industry.� I did not. I did not. I began to confront them forcefully. I don�t see the inconsistency there.�
TRUTH: The same month Gore�s sister died in 1984, he received a $1,000 speaking fee from U.S. Tobacco. The next year, he voted against cigarette and tobacco tax increases three times and favored a bill allowing major cigarette makers to purchase discounted tobacco. In the 1988 campaign, Gore bragged of his tobacco background: �I want you to know that with my own hands, all of my life, I put [tobacco] in the plant beds and transferred it. I�ve hoed it, I�ve dug in it, I�ve sprayed it, I�ve chopped it, I�ve shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn, and stripped it and sold it� (Newsday, 2-26-88).

TOBACCO #2
March 1, 2000; San Jose Mercury News
CLAIM: �My family had grown tobacco. It was never actually grown on my farm, but it was on my father�s farm.�
TRUTH: Gore had already admitted growing tobacco on his own farm: �On my farm, we stopped growing tobacco some time after Nancy died� (Cox News Service, 4-26-99). Also, Gore received federal subsidies for growing tobacco on his farm (Wall Street Journal, 8-10-95).

ABORTION #1
February 20, 2000; New York Times
CLAIM: Gore said he has �always, always, always� supported Roe v. Wade.
TRUTH: In 1977, Rep. Gore voted for the Hyde Amendment, which says that abortion �takes the life of an unborn child who is a living human being,� and that there is no constitutional right to abortion. He cast many other votes favorable to the pro-life cause and earned an 84 percent rating from the National Right to Life Committee.

CROWD ESTIMATE
February 4, 2000; New York Times
CLAIM: �We had a huge event with 3,000 people at Ohio State University.�
TRUTH: �Officials at that rally said the room where it had taken place did not hold more than 1,200 people, and, given the area needed for the staging erected for the occasion, they estimated the crowd at 500,� reported the Times.

NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY
February 2, 2000; Good Morning America
CLAIM: �We won in every single demographic category� in the New Hampshire primary.
TRUTH: Bill Bradley carried male voters and voters aged 18-29, according to exit polls.

BRADLEY VOTING RECORD
January 8, 2000; Democratic debate in Iowa
CLAIM: �Why did you [Bill Bradley] vote against the disaster relief for Chris Peterson when he and thousands of other farmers here in Iowa needed it after those �93 floods?�
TRUTH: Bradley voted for $4.8 billion in flood aid and opposed an amendment, also opposed by the Clinton White House until the last minute, to add $900 million in disaster compensation.

HUBERT HUMPHREY
December 27, 1999; Washington Post
CLAIM: Gore has suggested that he contributed important lines to Hubert Humphrey�s acceptance speech at the 1968 Democratic convention. �Young Gore later often told the story . . . [A]s [he] sat in the convention hall and looked up at Humphrey in the spotlight, he thought he heard his own words coming back to him.�
TRUTH: When Gore�s supposed conduit to Humphrey denied the influence, Gore blamed his recollection on �Faulty memory. Faulty memory.�

RESIDENCE
December 23, 1999; ABCNews.com
CLAIM: �I live on a farm today. I have my heart in my own farm.�
TRUTH: Gore lives in the vice-presidential mansion at the Naval Observatory in Washington, D.C. After making this farm claim, Gore said: �Yes, I live in Washington, D.C., when I�m working there�!

INTERNET PROTECTION
December 17, 1999; Democratic debate on Nightline
CLAIM: �I helped to negotiate an agreement with the Internet service providers to put a parent-protection page up and give parents the ability to click on all the websites that their children have visited lately. That�ll put a lot of bargaining leverage in the hands of parents.�
TRUTH: Bartlett Cleland of the Internet Education Foundation, seven months earlier: �There was no Gore involvement. They hijacked this issue. He makes it sound like he led the project. I can�t imagine what he will invent tomorrow� (Washington Times, 5-6-99).

LOVE CANAL
December 1, 1999; Concord High School, Concord, N.H.
CLAIM: �I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal. I had the first hearing on that issue.�
TRUTH: In October 1978, Gore did hold congressional hearings on Love Canal � which he apparently �found� two months after President Carter declared it a disaster area and the federal government offered to buy the homes.

HOME BUILDER
November 30, 1999; New England Business Council, Manchester, N.H.
CLAIM: �I was a home builder after I came back from Viet-nam. . . . I know a good bit about how to make money that way. . . . To build this country is a great thing.�
TRUTH: A Gore family corporation, Tanglewood Home� builders, built nine houses between 1969 and 1973 on property once owned by Gore�s father. �I believe he [Al Gore Jr.] came by a time or two, but not too often,� Jewell Dillehay, the contractor for the development, told the Orange County Register on February 20, 1988.

MCCAIN-FEINGOLD CAMPAIGN-FINANCE BILL
November 24, 1999; New York Times
CLAIM: �Unlike Senator Bradley, I was a co-sponsor of it.�
TRUTH: Gore and Russell Feingold never served together in the Senate. Gore later admitted to the Times that his comment �was a mistake . . . [W]hat I meant to say was that I supported that.�

EITC
November 1, 1999; Time interview
CLAIM: �I was the author of that proposal [the Earned Income Tax Credit]. I wrote that, so I say [to Bill Bradley], Welcome aboard. That is something for which I have been the principal proponent for a long time.�
TRUTH: The original EITC law was enacted in 1975. Gore entered Congress in 1977.

STIFF AND WOODEN
October 23, 1999; Associated Press
CLAIM: �I never got that stiff-and-wooden rap in the House and Senate. It has been as vice president.�
TRUTH: Time, March 21, 1988: �A joke among the press corps is, How do you tell Al Gore from his Secret Service protection? Answer: He�s the stiff one.�

VIETNAM SERVICE
October 15, 1999; Los Angeles Times
CLAIM: �I carried an M-16. . . . I pulled my turn on the perimeter at night and walked through the elephant grass, and I was fired upon.� In 1988, Gore told the Washington Post: �I was shot at. . . . I spent most of my time in the field.�
TRUTH: Gore never faced direct enemy fire, although several times he may have arrived on the scene shortly after fighting was completed.

TEST-BAN TREATY
October 14, 1999; Gore ad
CLAIM: �I ask for your support, and your mandate if elected president, to send this treaty back to the Senate with your demand that they ratify it. I�ve worked on this for 20 years because, unless we get this one right, nothing else matters.�
TRUTH: Gore indeed �worked on� this matter for many years, but often in opposition to a test ban. During his presidential campaign in 1988, he criticized his Democratic primary opponents for �the very idea of having a complete ban on all flight-testing of missiles when we rely on deterrence for the survival of our civilization� (Washington Post, 2-22-88).

INTERNET
March 9, 1999; CNN interview
CLAIM: �During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.�
TRUTH: The Internet is an outgrowth of a Pentagon program established in 1969. In the 1980s, Gore supported legislation considered favorable to the Internet�s development.

CENSUS
July 16, 1998; NAACP annual convention
CLAIM: �The Republicans know theirs is the wrong agenda for African Americans. They don�t even want to count you in the census!�
TRUTH: Most Republicans opposed the Clinton administration�s plan to conduct the census by statistically sampling the population rather than actually trying to count everybody.

BUDDHIST TEMPLE
January 24, 1997; Today show
CLAIM: �I did not know that it was a fundraiser.�
TRUTH: A DNC memo prepared for Gore made plain that the event at Hsi Lai Temple in Hacienda Heights, Calif., was a fundraiser. A Secret Service document called it a fundraiser, Gore�s staff described the event as a fundraiser to reporters, and DNC chairman Don Fowler testified to the Senate that he knew �there was a fundraising aspect to this event.� Six weeks before attending the event, Gore met with temple master Hsing Yun at the White House with fundraisers Maria Hsia and John Huang. Later that day, Gore sent an e-mail saying that he couldn�t be in New York on April 28, 1996: �If we have already booked the fundraisers [in California], then we have to decline.�

ABORTION #2
January 22, 1997; NARAL meeting
CLAIM: �I reached out to individuals who are leaders on the [pro-life] side of this issue� to �make common cause� on reducing unwanted pregnancies. He went on to imply that Catholic pro-lifers� opposition to birth control made it impossible for both sides join �together to make abortions rare.�
TRUTH: Despite many queries, no pro-life leader has ever said Gore approached him on this subject.

PEACE CORPS
February 16, 1992; C-SPAN�s Booknotes
CLAIM: Gore said his sister was �the very first volunteer for the Peace Corps.�
TRUTH: Nancy Gore Hunger was a paid employee at Peace Corps headquarters, 1961-64.

SUPERFUND
April 16, 1988; Democratic debate in New York
CLAIM: �I have written the law, along with one other principal author of the Superfund law, and amendments to the other major law in this area, which requires that companies improperly disposing of hazardous waste must bear the financial consequences of cleaning it up.�
TRUTH: Rep. Jim Florio, Democrat of New Jersey, wrote the first Superfund law in 1980. Gore was not a coauthor but merely one of 42 cosponsors in the House. Eight years before claiming authorship and praising the Superfund law, Gore criticized it for being �far too small to make a reasonable start on correcting this enormous environmental problem� (Congressional Record, 5-16-80).

HOMETOWN
February 1988; two ads
CLAIM: �I�m Al Gore. I grew up on a farm,� and �growing up in Carthage, Tennessee, I learned our bedrock values . . .�
TRUTH: Gore, the son of a senator, grew up primarily at the Fairfax Hotel in Washington, D.C., in a suite of rooms overlooking Embassy Row. He graduated from the ritzy St. Albans National Cathedral School, also in the capital.

SCHOOL DAYS
1988 campaign video
CLAIM: Narrator calls him a �brilliant student.�
TRUTH: �His grades were uneven, never approaching the plateau of A�s and B�s that might be expected of one who possesses such a pedagogical demeanor,� reported the Washington Post (3-19-00).

MUSIC LYRICS
November 3, 1987; Variety
CLAIM: �I was not in favor of the hearing� on music lyrics.
TRUTH: At the Senate Commerce Committee hearing on September 19, 1985, Gore said: �Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I would like to thank you and commend you for calling this hearing. Because my wife has been heavily involved in the evolution of this issue, I have gained quite a bit of familiarity with it, and I have really gained an education in what is involved.�

INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER
September 27, 1987; Des Moines Register
CLAIM: Gore claimed he �got a bunch of people indicted and sent to jail� as a reporter in the 1970s.
TRUTH: Two city councilmen were indicted; one was acquitted and the other given a suspended sentence. In an interview with the Memphis Commercial Appeal (10-3-87) a few days later, Gore admitted to �a careless statement that was unintentional.�

FEMALE STAFFERS
August 22, 1987; Associated Press
CLAIM: Gore �said half his campaign staff were women, and he would make half of a Gore Cabinet women.�
TRUTH: �But pressed by reporters later to name women on his staff, he fumbled and then mentioned one name, which later turned out to be incorrect.�

ARMS CONTROL
1984 Senate ad
CLAIM: Narrator says Gore �wrote the bipartisan plan on arms control that U.S. negotiators will take to the Russians.�
TRUTH: Ken Adelman, director of U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency: �He had nothing to do with what we proposed to the Soviets� (Boston Globe, 4-11-00).

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The more the better.

Bad Brains, Who read Dirk's post to you?

The bottom line is this, whether you like the guys or not, vote for Gore and prepare for large increases in the size of the government, and consequently a large tax increase.

i would love to take credit for putting together a lot of this stuff but i get it from other sites

the last piece was taken from http://www.nationalreview.com/gorelies/gorelies.shtml

i scan the drudge report everyday http://www.politicalgeek.com/ is good too, there are many links there
i also watch hannity and colmes of fox news and the o'reilly factor which always gives me both sides of the issues instead of the one sided liberal bias bs you will get from cnn, cbs, nbc, abc, and 95% of all newspapers

go to http://www.federalist.com/ and subscribe to their email journal, its free
lots of great info and quotes every week and yes they will take shots at gw too

algore

the man who will do and say anything to get elected http://www.algore-2000.org/
unofficial campaign web site

listen up folks
you have four choices

1. bend over and do nothing
2. bend over and vote for algore
3. waste your vote on a third party candidate

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Originally posted by WODIN:
The bottom line is Dirk you have your head so far up George W Bush Jr / Sr. ass that you can't see the crack of dawn. YOu spouting out automatonic rightwing, rhertorical bullshit. I could just as easily go out and find a crap load of "Lies" from "SHRUB" and post them on this board. WHy don't I? Because I'm a well educated person who knows that this is a waste of time and effort. You do not present a balanced argument to support your position, you present a onesided diatribe that turns people off immeadiatly. Learn to debate your point rather than lashing out, some day people may actually listen to what you have to say.

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thanks for the flame

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Originally posted by WODIN:
AH! I couln't help it I had to go find some "dirt" on George W. Bush and post it just to piss off my hero Dirk Diggler! May RALPH NADAR have mercey on my soul!

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are you in a union? Sounds like it the way you get so anti-bush all the time.

Matt

algore told a group of Teamsters he remembered the "lullabies I heard as a child," then sang, "look for the union label."

i was unfortunate enough to actually see a clip of him singing it and became deathly ill as a result