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Frackal

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posted September 17, 2000 03:07 PM

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Matt, I was raised in a predominantly left wing enviroment. Not hippie liberal, but definitely not right wing.

You seem to be a very intelligent and experienced individual. Yet you are a republican I was hoping you could write a few words to show me the other side of the republican party. As far as I know, republicans are right-wings who strongly support in religion, those with money, etc...

There is no way I can wade thru all the bullshit to find out what both parties really represent, so I'm looking to you to give me the alternate view, the cons on democrats and pros on republicans. Thanks.

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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 17, 2000 03:22 PM

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"Our preference to [the republican] form of government has been so far justified by its success, and the prosperity with which it has blessed us. In no portion of the earth were life, liberty, and property ever so securely held."
--Thomas Jefferson

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
--H.L. Mencken


supporting those with money would be better stated as not penalizing those with money

most of us republicans are just closet libertarians anyway


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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 17, 2000 08:09 PM

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bump for matt

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"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."
--George Bernard Shaw


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Dread Lord Good Guy

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posted September 17, 2000 08:19 PM

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liberal republican here


vote Bush 2000
Why? Cause he can hunt deer damn it.


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special_bill

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posted September 17, 2000 09:02 PM

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hey frack- happy sunday evening...as a person who was raised by former hippies turned economic conservatives, id like to share my view with ya..im a republican because i believe financial freedom supercedes all else...give me a free market and some coffee and im gonna make a buck...with enough money, it becomes very hard to "push" you around...wealth is the greatest weapon on earth...and the dollar barks very loud...if i ever decide that i am not "free" enough in this country, i will probably move to andorra.....socially, im rather liberal, i don't trust the government, nor do i have a whole lot of faith in my generation....id vote libertarian if i didnt feel it was wasting my vote or diluting the support for other economic conservatives, who are mostly republican....however, being the secular biologist type that i am, the social platform of the GOP leaves me a little creeped out...but not as creeped out as a 60 percent or higher tax bracket...

hey skywalker, ill shoot you an email later tomorrow when im not so beat...been enjoying the weather and planting shrubs in the yard


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted September 17, 2000 09:11 PM

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Im with Special Bill. Democrats think you money is THEIR money. An example is the surplus that Bush mentions in his commercial. We've been over taxed and the democrats want to keep it so they can "allocate it properly". I am a Libertarian at heart. People dont need the goverment and the religious right telling them what and what not to do.

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MattTheSkywalker

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posted September 17, 2000 10:52 PM

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Frackal,

The other bros have touched on some of what I believe. I generally do vote the "Big R" although I subscribe to many libertarian viewpoints as well.

I am not an enormous fan of organized religion. Religion is man's implementation of how we should have faith. I don't need another man to tell me that. Honestly, I believe both parties pander to religious organizations more than they honestly believe what they are saying.

I served in the military for a few years also. The defense budget is something that liberals are always trying to reduce. This is despite the fact that every conventional unit is undermanned, underequipped and the military is underpaid. This, combined with the current adminstration's mishandling of military deployments (Somalia: 18 Rangers dead for WHAT? Bosnia - why are we there? - and now Clinton is entertaining sending troops to East Timor. East Fucking Timor?!) I see many democrats as really just being clueless on military matters, and that is important to me.

I am sick of watching Hillary Clinton (I'm in NY) and Al Gore say we need to spend still MORE money on the public schools of this nation. Wrong answer bitch! I like the voucher idea - I would like to see the governemnt out of the education business entirely.

Lastly, the democrats are the party of the handout. Ideas that were institued in the Great Depression are still here and are outdated. Equality, in Latin, is "the absence of quality".

I really resent the fact that I have to work until April each year for others. Taht is roughly the percentage of taxes I pay now. Gore comes out and advocates all kinds of new programs. Who is paying for these programs? I am! And so are the rest of you. I truly disdian the idea of giving my money to others.

Simply put, I see goverment as existing to provide MINIMAL services to its people. Minimal services means minimal governemnt. Services like a defense force, and law enforcement. (State and local governements). What I cannot stand ids the idea that givernment should do more than that.

I don't claim that Bush is the ideal candidate. In fact, Alan Keyes was the most intelligent candidate in either party's primary. But I can't stand Democrats.

Matt


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Frackal

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posted September 17, 2000 10:56 PM

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Thank you Matt. I would like to make my own decision, not my mother's. (Not that she says I should, she wants me to do my own research).

I may not vote democratic after all, and even though my vote won't do a fucking thing, I feel it is my duty because so many died so I could choose to vote or not...you know?


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted September 17, 2000 11:00 PM

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Frackal,

It is important that you vote.

All I would ever ask is that you make the most informed decision. I hope you vote the Big R, but find out as much as you can and make your choice.

Ask your Mom why she is voting for Gore. In all likelihood, she will probably begin an attack on Bush.

You may also want to read Dirk Diggler's post about a long time Gore fundraiser leaving to join Bush.

Matt


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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 18, 2000 07:23 AM

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very well done matt
and about alan keyes, if any of you ever get a chance to hear this man speak, pay attention
he is just flat out unbelievable
i live in texas and voted for him in the primary

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The Dude

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posted September 18, 2000 08:14 AM

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Frackal, you NEED to vote! Why do the elderly vote in such huge numbers? Because during life they learned that their one vote DOES matter.

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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 18, 2000 08:27 AM

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and they have nothing else to do
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