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Frackal

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posted September 10, 2000 11:05 PM

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DREAD LADIE'S LINK REMINDED ME OF THIS TOPIC.
http://pub24.ezboard.com/fflirtingfrm2.showMessage?topicID=12.topic

Here we go again, in this tiresome drama. This post is pretty much pointless but I need a bit of enlightenment on a subject that puzzles me.

This girl that I like, (YEAH, THAT ONE) said that she would literally probably be willing to leave her current BF (who she says she loves,) and who honestly does care for her immensley, if a 'baller' was to come along and sweep her off her feet.

She said, and I quote, "I would be somebody's bitch, if they would buy me whatever I wanted."

In return I said, "So basically, your aspiration in life is to be a hoe."

She somewhat agreed. Now this of course caused me to lose a great deal of respect for her, because hurting her BF to cum my way is one thing since we're both strongly attracted to one another, but leaving him for something that empty is another.

This tears at me because she is soooooo sweet and innocent on the outside. She's got a great disposition and seems so nice. It's like she has 2 different personalities. I don't understand. I cannot accept that she is basically a worthless whore who is 2 steps away from becoming a full blown prostitute. Remember, this is the (1st) girl that I LOVE!

I've been told I was shallow because of how much I care about looks. But this to me seems to be the ultimate form of substance-less. I kind of feel sorry for her BF now. I knew from the start that if we ever got together the she would end up cheating on me, but this is ridiculous.

What the hell causes this type of insanity?


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d1734

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posted September 10, 2000 11:10 PM

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i wish i could answer that question, but i don't think anyone can. call her every expletive you can think of and never talk to her again. people like that have no business even being part of society.


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havoc

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posted September 10, 2000 11:11 PM

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What causes this?
Simple, easy answer.

You are going through shit you have never gone through before, this is new to you, give yourself a couple of years to grow and learn in this particular aspect of your life, trial and error, I will say it again , trial and error. With the knowledge and experience you will have in two years, it will make this situation look insulting to you because of how you will grow mentally.

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supersizeme

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posted September 11, 2000 12:43 AM

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Frackal with all due respect man will you please give up on this chick? I've read all the posts you've made on this girl and I have yet to hear one positive thing about her. This chick has got some serious problems...I realize you think she's sweet and all but...

A. She's fucking with you. She's got a boyfriend yet she's chillin with you behind his back. If she were to drop her bf and get with you, in all likelihood she's gonna do the same shit to you. We all think "she'll be different with me" but guess what...NOPE.
B. She wants to a stripper. Do you really want the person you love showing her tits to every single dude that rolls into the tity bar? Just the simple fact that she would consider dancing would make me bail immediately.
C. Now she admits to you that she would ditch her bf if some loaded dude picked her up and took care of her. If A and B didn't run you off first, this one should've convinced you.

You're a level headed dude and I realize you think you love this girl but she's taking you for a ride. And granted this is advice and nobody takes people's advice and you're gonna do what you want, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in. This girl has too much baggage.

AND as always in any scenario, if you really want this girl that badly, treat her like fucking shit and ignore her and you will have her wrapped around your finger in no time.

Good luck!


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Caesar

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posted September 11, 2000 08:18 AM

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Frackal. Dude. We've been visiting the boards for a long time now. You're not stupid. So what the fuck is this shit?

Drop this fucking chick. She is a whore. I know it hurts to hear that, but wake the fuck up man.

Lose the emotions you have for her because the longer you have them, the more hurt you will end up. Take this bitch for a ride. Fuck the shit out of her and fucking drop her.

'Cause that's all she's worth.

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Cleaner

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posted September 11, 2000 08:24 AM

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OK,
She has nothing realy, never realy every had.
She is placing her whole self worth in physical items. It happens to alot of people.
Its like if you have everything you ever wanted then your finally someone.
Her way of getting that is by hitching up with a free ride.
You can have anything you want thru hard work - you know this she has yet to learn it.


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted September 11, 2000 09:54 AM

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Frackal,

Cleaner and the others have all made very good points.

It seems to me that you are seeign her as something she is not. You love her, so you want her to have higher goals than things and whatever else, but in REALITY, she doesn't have any greater goals now. You want to see her a s a potentially great girlfriend, but REALITY is that she is seeign someone and spending time with you, etc. It seems like you are wanting her for POTENTIAL and not who she is today.

Look, I've made myself crazy for a girl before - done a lot of the same things you are - so I know that it is not easy to deal with.

It's easy for the bros here to tell you to dump her, but when you are emotionally attached it can be tough.

Matt


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decibel

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posted September 11, 2000 10:27 AM

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yup, they're right.
~stay away~
sometimes it's best not to mess with some kinds of people.


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JohnnyO

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posted September 11, 2000 10:32 AM

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Find another one!! You want one of mine?


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Frackal

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posted September 11, 2000 11:10 AM

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Hmmmmmmmmmm....

I think that I will do my best to drop this issue with her, and more importantly, with myself. It's obvious to me, no matter how much I don't want to admit it, that this won't work.

Matt: You made me see what I wasn't seeing bro. I DO want her to be something so much better than she is/will be. Apparently, she feels otherwise.

I don't think I can just say, 'Ok, I don't love her anymore.' and be over it like that, but I CAN stop pursuing the issue, which is stagnating.

I did notice what you said as being truth supersizeme. When I don't pay attention to her, she gets all worried. I won't play any games, but it'll be interesting to see how she reacts when I start to ignore her.


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ryry

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posted September 11, 2000 02:43 PM

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everybody here knows that this girl has issues. but i'm starting to think you have issues yourself. its tough if your emotionally attached to a girl. but the best way to get over your infatuation of her is to find another girl...

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Frackal

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posted September 11, 2000 06:26 PM

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And what type of issues would those be Ryry?

Remember, I've liked this girl for a good year now. I AM getting over her, slowly. Sorry if you've never known what it's like,
but sometimes it's difficult to just 'forget' a girl. I also AM looking elsewhere. I have one girl's pager # and unless she got expelled, hahaha I'm going out with another girl next tuesday.


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madbomber31

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posted September 11, 2000 06:39 PM

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i hate the idea of getting with someone else to move on... its bullshit. it just says someone is so weak and needy they have to have someone else or they are nothing. fuck that.

frackal, have fun with the other chick... but dont hurt her by using her just to get over the "hoe".


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ryry

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posted September 11, 2000 07:07 PM

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let me ask you something frackal, have you ever been in love before (aside from this)?

how do you really know that you love her as opposed to being really infatuated with her or the idea of being with her. to me i just can't understand how someone can love a girl w/o having a relatinship with her. "love" is a strong word to use.

and i know how it is to lose a girl that you care about... not a day goes by that i don't think about the girl that i let get away...

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Frackal

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posted September 11, 2000 07:54 PM

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Well, there is of course the possibility that I do not 'love' her, and that I 'lust' after her, like her, whatever.

You are correct in what I'm sure you expected to be my answer about being in love before, no I have not. So it is definitely possible that I don't even know what it is.

But I'll tell you this: I have never felt so strongly about a girl no matter what for so long, and I'm attracted to her in a way that I cannot describe. It is sexual, but that's only a part of it. Nothing would makes me happier then just holding her hand or listening to her voice.

Lust is mostly focused around sex right?

Anyway, it's all irrelevant, because as sick of this topic as you all are, this will be my last post on it unless something really significant happens between us. I just don't know where else to turn for advice, my peers are not the best source, you people are.



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Caesar

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posted September 11, 2000 07:56 PM

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Frackal, good to see you're coming around bro.

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d1734

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posted September 11, 2000 07:58 PM

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drug her, cut off her hand and have it preserved (like fish). then tape record her saying all your favorite sayings. simple as that man.


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted September 11, 2000 08:55 PM

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Frackal,

You can't just forget her in a day. If anyone is telling you that you can, they are misleading you.

Don't try to replace her with someone else either. Not possible. Instead, go out with other people and lead a normal active social life, which will help, as opposed to being miserable constantly.

Hang in there.

Matt


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