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RyanH

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posted September 09, 2000 08:19 PM

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Democrats and Republicans both suck shit; both are sold out to special interests. The Dems are sold out to the teachers lobby and unions, while the republicans are sold out to the pharmaceutical industry, big oil, and tobacco. But, I guess, I'll vote for Gore because of all these interests at least the democrats interests are related to the heart while the republicans interests are mostly related to money in their big cat pockets.


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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 09, 2000 08:39 PM

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sorry to hear that bro


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Dough White

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posted September 09, 2000 09:04 PM

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The Democrats are socialists, tearing apart our military and shoving affirmative action down our throats while dismantling the Bill of Rights. Gore has sworn to remove our Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
Klinton has passed more than 300 Executive Orders while in office - a phenomenal number of decisions which totally circumvented Congress and all other safeguards against totalitarianism.
I'll vote for the candidate most likely to uphold the Constution, upon which our Nation (A Republic, not a Democracy, BTW) is founded.
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and www.etherzone.com

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Austin316

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posted September 10, 2000 12:59 AM

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I hate ultra liberals, Gore is one of them. Gore can go to hell. I will vote for Bush. I like the Death Penalty and low taxes, and Im sick of welfare morons leaching off the system, having even more babies, and refuse to get a fucking job!!!


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moe dank

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posted September 10, 2000 01:07 AM

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fuck them all they all do the same shit when they get in office. Hell all the president does is fly around and talk shit with other countrys leaders. You really think the fucking president decides anything. They dont.

I am voting gore though. He was cap. of the football team in highschool. GW Bush was cap. of the cheerleading squad.(look it up) plus that son of a bitch daddy bush was the one that helped get the steroid law passed

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Dough White

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posted September 10, 2000 01:15 AM

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I don't care if Gore was the Captain of some damn football team. He wants to outlaw the internal combustion engine (says so in his "book" Earth in the Balance), he wants to do away with the Second and Fourth Amendments to the Constitiution. He's a damned collectivist who believes that the governemnt has the answer to all of our problems, if we'll just let it take over our lives. Look how great socialized health care is in Canada! Do we want that here?
If I thought Harry Browne had a snowball's chance, I'd vote Libertarian. It's the only party that respects the rights of the individual.


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RyanH

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posted September 10, 2000 09:00 AM

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Bush is an intellectual midget. Just listen to the guy talk, he's a real dumb ass. Not to mention the fact, that all of his bullshit tax cuts go to the wealthiest 1% of all Amercians, leaving middle class people like myself twisting in the wind. As far as constitutional rights being taken away, the republicans are the kings of hypocrites. They want to take away a woman's right to an abortion, but at the same time Bush has fried every mother fucker found guilty of breathing in Texas.....


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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 10, 2000 10:12 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by RyanH:
Not to mention the fact, that all of his bullshit tax cuts go to the wealthiest 1% of all Amercians, leaving middle class people like myself twisting in the wind.


please do your research before spouting off shit like that
http://georgewbush.com/
Governor Bush�s Tax Cut Proposal

Increase access to the middle class for hard working families:

Cut the current 15 percent tax bracket to 10 percent for the first $6,000 of taxable income for singles, the first $10,000 for single parents, and the first $12,000 for married couples.

Double the child tax credit to $1,000.

2. Treat all middle class families more fairly:

Cut the maximum tax rate for the middle class to 25 percent (versus the current maximum rates of 28 and 31 percent).

Greatly reduce the marriage penalty by restoring the 10 percent deduction for two earner families, allowing them to deduct up to an additional $3,000.

3. Encourage entrepreneurship and growth:

Cap the top tax rate at 33 percent (down from the current 39.6 percent).

Eliminate the death tax.

Make the research and development tax credit permanent.

4. Promote charitable giving and education:

Extend the deduction for charitable contributions to the 80 million taxpayers that do not itemize, and raise the cap on corporate giving.

Increase the annual contribution limit on Education Savings Accounts from $500 to $5,000 per child.


Results of Governor Bush�s Tax Reform Proposal


Under Governor Bush�s tax plan, the largest percentage reductions will go to the lowest-income earners. As a result:


Six million low- and moderate-income families will be removed from the income tax rolls entirely. That is one out of every five families with children.

The marginal income tax rate on millions of low-income families will fall by over 40 percent.

Tax Relief for Families of Four

A family of four making $35,000 will receive a $1,500 tax cut, a 100 percent reduction.

A family of four making $50,000 will receive a $2,000 tax cut, a 50 percent reduction.

A family of four making $75,000 will receive a $2,500 tax cut, a 25 percent reduction.

Tax Relief for Single Parents

A single mother with one child making $22,000 will receive a $1,000 tax cut, a 100 percent reduction.

A single mother with two children making $32,000 will receive a $1,500 tax cut, a 95 percent reduction.


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RyanH

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posted September 10, 2000 11:47 AM

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Dirk please read an unbiased study before believing the bullshit, that "too scared to debate" Bush Junior throws out on the internet for all suckers to believe:
The problem with the Bush tax plan is that the people who really need the help don't get the help,'' Kerry said on NBC's ''Meet the Press.'' ``Eighty percent of the Bush tax cut goes to the top 20 percent income-earners in America. Thirty-seven percent of it goes to the top 1 percent, 50 percent to the top 5 percent.''

Time magazine on Sunday released an analysis conducted by accountants from the firm Deloitte & Touche of the Bush and Gore tax proposals. It found that the Gore plan would be better for many middle-income families and has more to offer to middle-class taxpayers who are saving for retirement, have children in day care or college, or support and elderly parent in a nursing home
rs to believe:


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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 10, 2000 12:01 PM

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the reason why the rich are getting a bigger tax cut is BECAUSE THEY PAY THE MOST TAXES
what do you have against the rich anyway?
the top 5% of wage earners pay 50% of the taxes
why must we punish the successful

shit rolls down hill
you dont help the poor by tearing down the rich

gore doesnt give a damn about anybody
he will say anything and promise anything to get elected

at least bush has a pair of balls


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The Dude

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posted September 10, 2000 12:09 PM

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I hate to disappoint you Ryan, but the dems take enormous amounts of money from corporations too. While Gore is bashing the pharmaceutical companies, they are contributing heavily to him and the DNC.

And on the special interest thing, remember we are all a part of one or many, many special interest groups. I am. You are. We all are.


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Dirk Diggler

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posted September 10, 2000 12:28 PM

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to see how much you will pay in taxes under either of candidates tax plans go here....
http://www.speakout.com/taxcalc/tax_quiz.asp

i did a quick analysis
family of 4 making $50k a year will pay $2000 MORE a year under algores plan


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The Dude

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posted September 10, 2000 12:34 PM

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Nice post Dirk. I won't even let myself get started on taxes here. @#$%in' thieves.

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