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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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I truly believe that one of the worst things that can happen to a person (besides death or the death of a loved one)is depression. It doesn't go away. It's not faked or made up. Anyone who thinks depression isn't a real disorder or life-affecting disease - fuck you. It's like living in a small black box and being deathly claustrophobic. You can't escape no matter how hard you try. The best thing you can do for someone who has depression is just be there. Don't talk to them, nothing will make proper sense in a state of disillusion. They will talk to you in due time. If they don't, back off. Leave them alone. Don't push them to "open up" or they will explode...
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that is a real serious issue. i hope you do have some real good friends to help you get thru this. ------------------ "...damn you for not giving my TEST" - Metallica "After this show i'll be fat and happy again.....If i make it to the show...." - Lee Priest "Lets put some weight on the bar.." - Shawn Ray "IT DOESN'T MATTER" - The Rock | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 430 |
I can sympathize with you, dreadlady | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 198 |
D_lady, I hear ya! My wife has been suffering from depression for years! She is now on Adderal / Zoloft combo and it helps quite a bit. But every now and then the funks she gets into are really deep. I've learned to just live and let be. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 469 |
Just curious as to how your handle came about - You have dreads? or You dread (life, whatever) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 783 |
quote: Explode!!! It's better than not doing anything. I've been there with empty bottles of Everclear all around and a 30/30 under my chin. If you fell like your going cazy, then fucking go crazy, its a hell of alot better than blowing your fucking brains out. People think I'm disturbed, of course I'm disturbed! How can you not be in this day and age?!? Get up and start smashing things, it helps I know! Just get up and do anything. There are alot of really good people here. Talk to someone, if you keep it inside it festers and gets worse. Then if you feel like exploding do it. The next time the ice weasels come, kicke em in the nuts, push that god damned snowmobile off you, and ride that bitch home! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 518 |
Rotten always has the best advice, listen to him. He listened to me when i needed someone. Actually i need to send you another e-mail i need more advice from you. thanks. ------------------  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 811 |
depression is a killer...i cant imagine not being my bubbly ken doll self....from observation, it ususally doesn't just clear up, you must take some action....are you really exercising much?...ive found most people really respond well to the endogenous endorphin release caused from routine exercise...when i was in lock down at the psych ward, i met many bipolars and several clinically depressed....very, very sad....it was a mixture of depression and anger, angry because there was no obvious cause for their depression...these were financially sucessful people, with all the trappings of wealth, yet they enjoyed none of it....i prefered to hang with the schizophrenics, they knew how to party and tear shit up....my roomate looked like brad pitt and would "puppet", which means he would just be sitting there and his hand would pop up near his head and starting moving like it was talking to him....like a hand puppet...he would talk back even....man i loved that guy.....anyway, what helped the depressed folks the most was ECT or electro-convulsive shock therapy....makes you forget your name for a day or two but the results were impressive....i hope you dont need anything that drastic.... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 783 |
Slick thanks for saying that. You can come to me anytime if you need help. I mean that to all of you. Except for havoc and TD. You guys are on your own! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 783 |
quote: That explains so much to me about bill | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 811 |
i now have one at home | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 160 |
I'm soo sorry that you are feeling so low....I know you must feel like you are at the end of your rope....just realize that sometimes things have to get so bad to turn around....that's the great thing about life....it's always changing and every day bring something new...I'll keep you in my prayers. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
geez, dread lady...you said "fuck you" to me. lol. the reason i got no sympathy for depressed ppl is i went through some hellish shit that you guys wouldn't believe if i told you. for 2 years i was right on the edge of either killing myself with medicine or jumping off my deck onto the spiked wooden fence below. who was there for me? NOBODY. no one even cared. i pulled through ALL BY MYSELF. i dont gotta thank anybody for anything i ever accomplish in life, cuz it was all me. and no, i dont want any damn sympathy. i dont need it, never will. to all you depressed people: SUCK IT UP....i did. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 430 |
Rotten: Thanks for the offer of help, but, unfortunately, I don't know if I trust you enough to ask you for help. Maybe you don't care what I think, and, no offense was meant towards you  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 198 |
I've got a friend at work the is always saying "It's better than a stick in the eye.", so I'm always trying to come up with things that are worse! So which would you rather have a stick in the eye or be depressed. Frued once said that depression is the illness of the rich. I aint rich so I geuss he was WRONG. ------------------ [This message has been edited by WODIN (edited September 07, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 811 |
hey d1734- sounds like you had a run of bad luck...not true depression...which is caused by a neurochemical imbalance involving dopamine and seratonin....it can have nothing to do with your "external" life... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 783 |
Hey Lisa thats cool and I can totally understand it. The offer is still on the table if you change your mind. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 198 |
Ahhh, special bill, You are wize beyond your ECT therapy my friend. That is what the DRs. say is the deal with me and my wife. Both of us a depressive her to a greater degree than I am. I was on an MAO inhibitor, paxil for a couple of years but I gave it up because I just coulnd't feel anything with it. I have taken to the sanctuary of meditation and pumping iron to deal with mine. The exercise gives me that euphoria from the release of endorphines and the meditation makes things just appear as they are without the cloud of emotional judgement hanging over them. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 289 |
Wow, I don't even know where to begin. Dread lady, you've a serious problem on your hands, and the only way you can regain control of your life, is to deal with this condition directly and as soon as possible. I recommend seeing a professional therapist and maybe getting on some medication. The most important step you must take, however, is to realize is that absolutely nothing will change if YOU don't take action. It's that simple. You'll probably never be "cured" of your condition; some people are just predisposed to depression, but you can certainly improve the quality of your life. The only person that can make a difference, though, is YOU. You've got nothing to lose! If you get the help you need, things will only get better! Cheer up Peace... PS Sorry for my overuse of the personal pronoun 'you'. It won't happen again. I promise...you ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 151 |
Well, Frued may be right in some cases but he sure did pass me by, because I'm not rich. All I can say is that if it weren't for weights and a sport called Bodybuilding, I'd probably have gone skydiving without a parachute along time ago... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 84 |
Thank you all for the advice and support. I have been on different medications for a while with varying success. I have been working out alot to get rid of that extra stress, but I still have alot of underlying issues. I'm not trying to be a whiner here.. I just needed some kind words to make it through my day... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1115 |
Hey Dread L, I noticed your in Austin, I am there pretty often, maybe we will get together. I will bring you some kind nuggets with a gang of mind sugar on them that will help you forget about your depression. ------------------ "A piece of herb in your pocket is guaranteed luck in an adverse situation, unless you get searched" | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 84 |
Heh, yea drop me a line if you are ever down here. I'd appreciate that. I live in the Barton creek area if you know where that is. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1115 |
I was there last week, a good friend of mine has a house on one of the tallest hills there, it was solid, nice view plus some sweet ganja , anyway I will let you know. Peace and I wish you well. ------------------ "A piece of herb in your pocket is guaranteed luck in an adverse situation, unless you get searched" | ||
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Moderator 
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Listen to Nine Inch Nails...that does the trick for me. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
well i dont understand how anyone could be depressed if they got loved ones that cvare for em. i dont care what chemicals are fucked up in your system. with the amount of cry babies and depressed ppl in the world its hard to believe they are all in this terrible chemical imbalance. i think its just a society of weaklings with no backbones. but hey, thats my opinion. and no matter what i will never let someone use that BS as an excuse to say shit to me that i don't deserve. i could care less whats goin on in their head, that wouldn't give anyone the right to be a cry baby to me all day. they sure as hell aren't gonna bring me down with em. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 811 |
you should be a guidance counselor... peace and bacon grease | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 142 |
DAMN, Thats hard core..... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 430 |
you're all heart, d1734....all heart | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
Rotten is Right On! Just go crazy if you need to. I look back with quaint fondness on several of my more crazy interludes. It really helps a lot. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 155 |
d1724, it's obvious you don't understand. Dread Lady, I hear you and I feel for you. If I miss my meds for two days, the bad stuff creeps right the fuck up my neck and into my head. I can feel it. And then nothing makes sense. Nothing. And nothing can get my ass to move towards any solution. I've been like this for almost 5 years. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 212 |
I know what you are going through... I was in deep depression in my 20's.. I just kept working out, and tried to take some anti-depressant drugs, but had side effects from them.. so I just continue to suffer,,, Until one day I decided, I was going to be happy with myself... And it seems like the depression went away.. I get a little blue now and then, but not in the hole, I was in.. Just keep talking to people on the board, and it keeps your mind active.. Just remember you are not alone... We all go through Bad & Good times. Pamela | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 948 |
dread lady...I hear you and understand. Rotten is right about exploding if you need to. Throw things, smash things, use a real fucking baseball bat (not this battaka bat crap) to destroy something. Laugh, cry whatever you have to do. If you need meds to get your system in balance, so be it. You are certainly not alone. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
i might not be able to afford playstation 2 right when it comes out...wahhhhh!!! omg...my teacher doesn't like me...booo hoo! i only have regular TV while billy bob joe has HDTV...moooooommmmmmmmyyyy!! my gf is being a meanie pie...enough!! BANG! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
skydancer: of course she isnt alone! everyone and their grandmother is depressed. i guess when you grow up spoiled u just got a fucked up impression of what its like to have it TRULY bad. suzy has more abercrombie and fitch clothes than me...i know what i'll do! i'll write a suicide note to all my friends saying i can't take it and swallowed 12 aspirin...and 3 tylenol! oooooooohhhh i'm a bad girl! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 812 |
I'll just add this because it helps me. One of my mentor was an older gentleman who had been thru living hell. Thor could tell and he looked at me and began to talk about his life. His mother abandoned his family after the birth of 6/7 kids and Thor and his father raised the family. Anyway he went on and on and found the good in everything!@!! Everything no matter how bad it was good. Then he talked about his cancer and said look at all the med students that have learned so much from me. Look at all the studies thay have done - some day that will help everyone. I was floored!!! Here the man finally gets to retire and have a life and spend all the money he makes and he gets blasted by cancer and he doesn't find fault. Thor could tell that I was at alost and didn't want to deal with it and with one sentence he set me at ease and I live by it. "Things don't happen to you they happen for you". It might be years before you know why, but everything is a blessing. Hope all is well - don't sweat the little stuff. CYA [This message has been edited by Cleaner (edited September 07, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 948 |
Wow d1734 - you know me so fucking well that you know how I am? You know how I was raised and under what circumstances? I feel sorry for ignorant people such as yourself. Makes me wonder what kind of life you've had. ------------------ [This message has been edited by skydancer (edited September 07, 2000).] [This message has been edited by skydancer (edited September 07, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 430 |
shit....now I'm depressed....... when things aren't going right at home, it fucks all the personal stuff up too o well | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 783 |
LOL at Skydancer. Fuckin A right, people have no clue what its like unless they've been in their shoes. Sky is one of the most giving people I've ever met. She gives me head every chance she's got and swallows just cause she knows I like it. d8675309 just because you live in this pissed off little world, doesn't give you any right to critique the way someone is trying to help someone else. If your not part of the solution then your part of the problem, so stop being part of the problem. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 84 |
d1734, I hate to burst your bubble, but i'm not the superficial little bitch that you are protraying. I would love to laugh at such small problems that you described. If you think that's all I'm complaining about, then good for you. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
chill out rotten! i am part of the answer. my anti-cry baby philosophy could help all of the world. what does crying help huh??? tell me one productive thing that sorrow and self-pity do for yourself. how about nothing??? sky: i was making a generalization. for 1 thing, i don't think your advice of smashing things is very productive. shows some great self control let me tell ya. and neither is telling her to be a cry baby! but if you don't think most of this country is raised spoiled as hell, whatever be blind. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
alright then dread lady, whats making you so sad? oh btw, don't put shit like "i wish i was dead" in your post. that is just pathetic. if you wish you were dead then you would be. it isn't a tough thing to do. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 155 |
d1734, without a gun, it is surprisingly hard to kill yourself. The meat holds on. And think about this: if your brain chemistry(ie - serotonin) is fucked up, it's like your mother board being fucked: you ask for diagnostics, but you can't trust the results because the very thing doing the evaluating is untrustworthy. Think about some time that you were absolutely terrified or absolutley down. Now imagine if that feeling stayed with you all day, every day. That's what it's like. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
here is a recipe for death: 200 pills of 300 mg aspirin or if you prefer, take 1-2 bottles of adipokinetix. there ya go, not so hard is it? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 688 |
you are never alone. don't let yourself believe it. no matter what. Puc | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 688 |
d1734 Please stop. Your "Don't cry about it!" philosiphy may be what works for you, but you are displaying ignorance and arrogance by professing it as universally ideal. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
Puc: i think you would be surprised if you gave it a try! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 236 |
Hey dread do you know someone who is suffering from depression? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 84 |
*slaps his butt* | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 155 |
d1734, the body has an amazing way of vomiting up fatal substances, even after you've passed out. The meat holds on. You're ignorant, spiteful, and full of shit. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 114 |
I was totally depressed after my big 'D'no one could help,I could'nt sleep for almost a week (2 hours at most)I just want to end it ,until I found out my youngest son (3years old then) was sick,I took him back & nursed him to health, & my life changed,my depression is still there but manageable,eventually my close friend intro me to a hobby of his (audiophile) & I was hook,& I still am.My suggestion is find something that interest you & keep you occupied,I'm still on 'AMITRIPTELYNE' but on lower dosage,it's been 12years now,so I symphatised with you lady,hope you'll get over it someday. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 133 |
EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are here for you, always. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
if i'm full of shit, then give it a try. come on, i DARE you. lololol. ya, thats what i thought. sit down. alright buddy boy, i'll help you out: walk to a rail road track, lay down, fall asleep. dive off head first out of the highest building/apartment complex that you can find. take 10 grams of DNP hang yourself (fucking duh) nail your head to a board and run it through have a picnic on the race track during the Indy 500 pick your nose with a power drill, be sure to dig deep walk into any gang infested hood, go up to any member, and tell them proudly, "your momma loves it when i cornhole her" if you need more ways to end your horrible life let me know. in the meantime, i'm gonna enjoy mine. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 688 |
you're an idiot. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 260 |
All I can say is if you are trying to jump-start her by pushing her button you better be ready to live with the results....I hope she does not take you up on your offers to take her life, I have seen someone pushed too far and they blew their brains out...the person that pushed them "past" has never been the same..... Hang in there and we are all here to help you ....!!!!!!! Everyone in this world is improtant, don't leave it by your own hand..... take care all, I am outta here to go to my kids soccer practice.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
i'm a gay mexican that got into college by affirmitive action and i'm 40% bodyfat. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 84 |
I'm so tired of your crap man... I feel better. I'm not dead. Ok? What the hell else do you want me to say. I had a VERY bad week, month, year, whatever. Leave it alone. None of that shit is mine. It's my roommates. I am not going to fucking claim it. So back off and leave me alone. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 256 |
BUMP! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 140 |
Dread_Lady, GET help. You are crying for it, have the courage to follow through on your words. I can't say everything is going to be alright, but if you sit there and don't do anything you know for sure it won't. As a person that has gone through this, (love=left) seeking help is what you need to do. Some trained. Somethings can't be fixed by yourself, it may be a chemical imbalance in your head... GOOD luck, HIndustna p.s. Follow my advice... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 793 |
Hey D1: Watch what you friggin say bout suggestions to ending a life. Someone might actually act on them. A friend of mine a couple years back was depressed. His supposed friend said "If its so fuckin bad kill yourself." That kid was supposed to be one of his best friends. Ya know what? He did. He friggin shot himself in the head when noone was home. Did that make any of the problems go away? No it made more. His mom is a walking zombie now. Everyday she has to walk by her son's bedroom and say to herself "Thats where Kenny died.". Everyday she has to wake up knowing that her son is gone. Everyday she has to ask herself the same God damn question of "What if Kenny had spoken to a different friend that day? A true friend. One that actually cared about him." Everytime she sees her sons death letter she says to herself "I can't believe one of his best friends said that to him." There is nothing worse for a parent than outliving their child(ren). So if ya got some suggestions of suicide, keep them to yourself. Cause for all you know you might end up in the letter, of a person who killed themself, explaining that your friggin lack of sympathy and asshole idea pushed them over the edge to actually follow through with it. ----------------------- R.I.P. Ken | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 251 |
sorry to hear about your friend, rex, but you act as if its the friend's fault who told your friend to kill himself. if a friend is truly having it rough, then yea, i'll be there for em. the problem is that most ppl don't really have bad problems, they are just pessimistic pansies. 99% of us are all incredibly fortunate, regardless of our past, regardless of our income, and ppl refuse to see it. they just focus on what they can't do, the ppl that weren't there, instead of the ones that were. and no matter what someone has been through, there is definitely a time table on how long it should take to get over it. when that time comes, and they are still bringing me down w/ em, fuck it i got a life too. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 199 |
"Tough times never last, TOUGH PEOPLE do!" ------------------ |
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