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THE STEEL BEAST

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posted August 21, 2000 08:42 AM

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TO ADD MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF THICK SLABS TO MY FRAME I TRAIN LIKE A POWERLIFTER FIRST,THEN THROW SOME ISOLATION MOVEMENTS IN.BUT MAINLY ITS SQUAT,DEADLIFT AND BENCH.OH AND CLEANS AND PRESSES.GETTING BIG IS SIMPLE JUST NOT EASY.

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Frackal

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posted August 21, 2000 08:48 AM

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Squats, deadlifts and (dumbell, no spotter) bench presses are the cornerstone of my routines.


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Cleaner

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posted August 21, 2000 08:55 AM

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I do alot of chins - I drop the deads. Just me!
Never have like them much - lately I have been doing them. Will see if the back takes it well.


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havoc

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posted August 21, 2000 08:56 AM

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Defenitely everything but the flat bench, my incline is damn strong, flat bench for me and I repeat for me is worthless.

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Thick dog

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posted August 21, 2000 09:02 AM

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I love benching and squatting. I used to deadlift, but now just do stiff legged version. I also am big on incline. I am actually more of a powerlifter at heart than a bodybuilder. Well, kind of a combo.


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buckydingdong

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posted August 21, 2000 09:22 AM

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squats and deadlifts are good to wreck my body before I move onto the smaller exercises. I am with frackal about benches, I always use dumbbells. Most guys ask me how much i bench and i can just say "I don't know" because i use 50lb dumbbells right now, I can't seem to get as good of a stretch out of barbells.


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vlaovic

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posted August 21, 2000 11:44 AM

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Definately agree on the 'bells for chest press movements - after all with the bar, I can only touch the top of my chest, but with the bells, I can actually go a couple centimeters bellow the chest - sort of brush up aginst it (also, no spotter). Always use the squat and stiff-leg deads, adding regular deads every 2 weeks or so. I don't like a lot of the goofy cable movements and I don't know what the point of a machine is.


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Bjaarki

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posted August 21, 2000 03:31 PM

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This is a good thread.

I'm definitely with Vlaovic, Frackal and Bucky on the bench issue. I switched over from bars to bells several months ago, and really prefer the bells.

I think Cleaner has a point, though, about the pullups. SteelBeast's three lifts (squats, deads, bench) won't do much for your lats, or for your bis, except in their indirect anabolic effect. To Cleaner's pullups I would add dips, using either a bench or bar, and weighted, of course. Also some dedicated ab work. I can't imagine a good set of routines that doesn't include pullups, dips, and focused ab work, as well as SteelBeast's big three.

For me, cleans are just too damned dangerous. I've got a bad back from many years ago, and find the violence of cleans just too risky. Deads, too, can be a problem for me, preventing me sometimes from getting a good squat going. I like deads a lot, and usually use a sumo form, but even then I have to be careful, and have to be willing to sacrifice something in my squats, which I'm not usually willing to do. Oh well, each to his own.

My bottom line is similar to SteelBeast's, though: A few good, quality, compound lifts for basic mass and anabolism - squats, deads, dumbbell presses, pullups and dips - along with ab work and an ever-changing variety of "finishing" lifts to add variety and spice.

My $.02, bros.

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BigTruck

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posted August 21, 2000 03:34 PM

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Squats
Deads (full and partial)
Incline and Flat/Bar and DB Chest Presses
Dips
Wide-Grip Supinated Pull-Ups
Standing Barbell Press

All for mass with class!


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Rocco

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posted August 21, 2000 04:09 PM

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I agree that a good foundation for growing definetely starts with these movements, Squats, deads, cleans, bent rows,and bench. When you look around the gym, the guys you see doing these exercises are usually the biggest guys in the gym(bench excluded) We all know what it's like to do squats for reps of 2, this is why we GROW, We are dedicated, we continually push ourselves. When we achieve failure, we find a way to get one more, this is why we GROW. Alot of people always say " I wanna get big ", but they don't truly have the desire to get big, there is a big difference between the two. This is why we GROW. Bro's I'm sorry to go on and on, but something just got me fired up with this post. I'm going to the gym now,It's leg night, and I just got myself pumped, looks likes its going to be squats, hacks, presses, and extensions..

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anibolism

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posted August 21, 2000 05:28 PM

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The 3 big movements are the hardest therefore only the hardcore incorporate all 3 into their training regimen.I will be the first to admit i was a pussy for a long time about pulling deads and squatting.But now that i have forced myself to do them ,and seen the changes in my physiqe that only true powerlifting movements can give you,I love to do them.My whole workout regimen revolves around these movements with some good isolation movements thrown in for shape.Powerlifting movements are the only way to go for true strength and size.

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Romeo

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posted August 21, 2000 06:17 PM

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i just beginning to do ..these amazing excersizes...i have fallen in love with squats ...i did still legs deads last wek for the first time ..i have yet to try regular deads....i love to bench ...i do both incline and flat....i rotate 1 wek ill do flat bench with a bb...and then ill do db incline

next week ill change it around and do the opposite,...but i love to do those dam squats

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thermo

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posted August 21, 2000 06:42 PM

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damn one thing i hate is squats, but ya gotta do em
my regimen consistes of incline,deadlift,clean n press,squats
then i do about 3 more excersises for that part of the body im doin on a certain day
sometimes ill switch it up for shockage


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burndaddy

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posted August 21, 2000 06:51 PM

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I also like the big 3 for size, you can allways tell when someone has built their foundation on the big 3. they ten to have a very thick look to them (i.e. Dorian). I tend to modify mine a bit, slight incline bench to the neck (this is kind of crazy with heavy weight so use a spotter you trust), on deads i try to use a great big fat shrung when the lift is alost to the top. nothing speacial on squats, just not too deep.

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Latimer

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posted August 22, 2000 04:28 PM

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Hell yeah Steel. The big 3 and some clean & presses. My shoulders have gotten a lot bigger since I started doing clean & presses. I love them.


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JustinM

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posted August 22, 2000 06:55 PM

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i am gonna start doing cleans and deadlifts soon..i like press with the bar...i think it is better for exploding up (just my preference)

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rancid

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posted August 23, 2000 02:12 AM

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Squats, Deadlifts, Bench press, weighted Dips, power cleans!


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picasso

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posted August 23, 2000 04:20 AM

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Sometimes when I still can't walk normal 4 days after deads or squats,I try to tell myself that I don't need to be so intense on these two anymore.Then just as quickly I come back to reality.
The big movements are what got me here and it's what will keep me here.


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mightydog

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posted August 23, 2000 06:20 AM

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I do bench every week and alternate squat and deads every other week. I was thinking about alternating bench and dips the same way. Seems like deads are the only exercise that targets my back, improves posture.


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posted August 23, 2000 06:35 AM

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I'll raise my hand for 2 out of 3. Stopped squatting because of bone issues.
While I never felt pain in my back from squatting I developed a popping noise. This noise happened every time I did standing dumbbell curls or french presses. Once I stoppped the squatting the feeling/noise went away.


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chemdaddy

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posted August 24, 2000 01:31 AM

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The big 3: Test, Deca, D-bol.


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WCP

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posted August 24, 2000 01:52 AM

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DB Presses
Squats, then more squats...and then..what the hell a few more squats.

Deads
Wide grip chins
And I really cant believe more people didnt say Military presses...best meat and potatos excercise for the shoulders...


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bouncer

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posted August 24, 2000 08:08 AM

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Why stop at the big 3 ?. I'm half way through a bulking cycle right now and my routine for the first month went like this.
All muscle groups in the same workout. So,
a. 4 sets flat bench.
b. 4 sets squats.
c. 4 sets behind neck shoulder press.
d. 4 sets deadlifts.
e. 4 sets barbell curls.

I did this 3-4 days per week, depending on my recovery. I did'nt post this routine here because I knew that I would come in for alot of flak about why it would'nt work. Anyway, after 4 weeks I went back to working 1 muscle group a day, and only once a week. I'm putting in more isolation execises now and it's been a great roid/training cycle.
The results after 6 weeks, my starting stats were 6'2'', 225lbs 13% b/f. I'm now at 250 lbs, I haven't measured my b/f lately but I have put on some lard. But yes the 'big 3' definitely work for bulking, but don't shy away from all the other multi-joint exercises.

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MrMuscle

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posted August 24, 2000 03:30 PM

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Definately..the big 3, Mickey D, KFC and Burger King all the way

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Big Buck

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posted August 24, 2000 06:11 PM

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the Big 3 should be the meat and potatoes of any serious bodybuilders workout.

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