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HS Lifter

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posted August 17, 2000 08:55 PM

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My weight-lifting routine- Bulk/Strength

DAY 1 ARMS

Barbell Curls- 4x6
Preacher Bench curls- 4x6
Seated Hammer Curls- 4x6
Close Grip Bench Press- 4x6
Skull Crushers- 4x6
Dips- 4x6

DAY 2 LEGS

Squats- 4x6
Leg Curls- 3x8
Leg Extensions- 3x8
Calf raises- 4x12
Lounges- 3x8

DAY 3 CHEST & SHOULDERS

Dumbell Bench Press 4x6
Dumbell Incline Bench Press- 4x6
Barbell Bench Press- 3x8
Lateral Raises- 4x6
Military Press- 4x6
Front Raises- 4x6

DAY 4 BACK & TRAPS

Chin-ups- 4x6
Deadlifts- 4x6
One Arm Bent Over Rows- 4x6
Dumbell Shrugs- 4x15
Barbell Smith Machine Shrugs- 3x10

DAYS 5 & 6- REST

DAY 7- REPEAT


Any comments?


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pizza man

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posted August 17, 2000 10:43 PM

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just my own opinion, why do chest and shoulders together, if you have too due to time only take 1 day off, not 2, and if your on a.s. you really dont need 2 days off. how come no chest flys???? they expand rib cage somewhat, and also strengthen inner pecs.

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HS Lifter

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posted August 17, 2000 11:15 PM

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Im doing chest and shoulders so I can do bi's and tris on the same day.

I lift at school, so therefore I cant lift on the weekend.

Is there really a problem with doing chest and shoulders on the same day?

BTW Im a high school student, and im not on a.s.

Thanks for your reply pizza, and others please reply.


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vlaovic

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posted August 18, 2000 12:25 AM

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You're not on AS?! You are overtraining in a MAJOR way. Lift 3-4 times per week with a day's rest in between. Try day1-chest/shoulders/triceps, day2-off, day3-back/traps/biceps, day4-off, day5-legs/abs, day6-off, day7-off.
If you are lifting heavy enough, you are taxing your nervous system as well as your muscles, so a day's rest between sessions will help increase your strength. Don't go crazy on sets either; 6-10 per body part is PLENTY, assuming they are intense enough.


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XdawgX

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posted August 18, 2000 12:39 AM

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i agree with what vlaovic said. that's pretty much the same split i'm doing, except it's:

monday - legs/abs
wednesday - chest/shoulders/tris
friday - back/bis/forearms

again, 6-10 sets per body part is good. go closer to 10 sets for the bigger body parts (legs, chest, back) and closer to 6 sets for the smaller stuff (bis, tris), especially if you're doing a 3 day split similar to one of these.

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vlaovic

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posted August 18, 2000 01:26 AM

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Definately; on that kind of a split, all the back exercises would pump up my biceps, so I'd only need a few intense sets to finish them off. Same with chest/triceps or thighs/calves. The idea is to stimulate not anihelate your muscles.


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Austin316

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posted August 18, 2000 02:09 AM

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I've gained lots of size and strength over the summer on Max OT. This is what my training schedule is like this week

Monday: Chest
Bench Press 3x4-6
Incline Dbell press 2x4-6
Decline Dbell press 2x4-6
flies 2x4-6

Tuesday: Biceps/forearms/abs
Straight Bar curls 2x4-6
Alt Dbell curl 2x4-6
Cable curl 2x4-6
Wrist curls 3x4-6
Super crunch 1k 2x10-12
crunches 2x30

Wed: Legs
Squats 3x4-6
45 leg press 2x4-6
Stiff Leg Dlifts 2x4-6
Hack calf raise 2x8-10
45 calf raise 3x8-10

Thurs: Shoulders/triceps
Dbell press 3x4-6
Military press 2x4-6
Lat raises 2x6-8
Skullcrushers 3x4-6
pushdowns 2x4-6
kickbacks 1x6-8

Fir: Back/abs
rows 2x4-6
Bbell bent rows 2x4-6
Wide grip pull downs 2x4-6
low rows 2x4-6
Super crunch 1k 2x10-12
crunches 2x30


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Thick dog

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posted August 18, 2000 09:34 AM

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Your routine looks pretty good, however I would split up chest and shoulders, like the others said. If you can train5 days a week this would work good:
Day 1- chest
Day 2- back
Day 3- legs
day 4- shoulders
day 5- arms

There is no perfect routine for everyone. My training program is product of about 500 other programs from people I have met over the years. Find something that workd for you, then when you hit a plateau, make some adjustments.


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MrMuscle

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posted August 18, 2000 12:10 PM

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overtraining?? damn man..i hear that all the fucking time..here is my sceduel..and im not on any AS either..

Day1:
Quads: Squats - 4 sets - 15/12/10/8
Legpresses - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Leg extension - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Hamstrings: SLDL - 4 sets - 15/12/10/8
Leg curls - 3 sets - 12/10/8

Day2:
Shoulders: Dumbbell shoulder presses - 4 sets - 15/12/10/8
Seated side rasie - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Singel arm cable laterals - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Rear deltoid machine - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Triceps: Close grip bench press - 4 sets - 15/12/10/8
Dips - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Pressdowns - 3 sets - 12/10/8

Day3:
Cardio: 30-45min
Abs: sam program as before

Day4:
Back: Chins - 4 sets - 15/12/10/8
Barbell rows - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Low pulley rows - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Barbell shrugs - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Calves: Standing calfraise - 4 sets - 15/12/10/8
Seated calf rasie - 3 sets - 12/10/8

Day5:
Chest: Incline bench press - 4 sets - 15/12/10/8
Flat dumbbell presses - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Machine flyes - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Incline cable flyes - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Biceps: Incline dumbbell curls - 4 sets - 15/12/10/8
Barbell curls - 3 sets - 12/10/8
Singel arm machine preacher curls - 3 sets - 12/10/8

Day6:
Cardio: 30-45min
Abs: sam program as before

Day7: start over on day 1

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Steelheart

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posted August 18, 2000 12:20 PM

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Check out my post for my get big routine.


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special_bill

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posted August 18, 2000 12:59 PM

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im glad to see everybody doing close-grips bench press...its my favorite tri move...im working out with 225 now, and i weigh 180...i follow with low weight kick backs and really squeeze at the top...what a pump...


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cackerot

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posted August 18, 2000 02:55 PM

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are you progressing on this routine?

i would definatly lower the volume, 3 sets instead of 4 will be better IMO.

for arms i would drop the preachers for another compound exercise, cable curl, dumbell curl, etc.

it looks ok, on shoulder day i would drop the front raises. 3 sets of military press is enough for the front delts.

leg day is fine. maybe replace the extentions with leg press, and drop 1 set of squats.

back day also looks fine. the only thing i would change is, barbell shrugs instead of smith machine shrugs.

so drop the sets per exercise from 4 to 3, make the above changes...and you have a great routine.

good luck.

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ryry

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posted August 18, 2000 03:22 PM

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that ain't overtraining... he's hitting everybody part about 10-12 times.

heres the breakdown for my bulking split

chest
back
rest
shoulders/traps
legs
arms
rest

heres my cutting split

chest/tris
legs
rest
shoulders/traps
rest
back/bi's
rest

hope that helps

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vlaovic

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posted August 19, 2000 12:04 AM

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Enough, enough. That's overtraining!...The hell it is!...
We could go on forever with our various routines and beliefs, but the fact is everyone's genetic are different. The only thing that holds true in my mind is listening to your body - instinctive training. My body tells me not to do that many sets - I get better results from only a few super-intense ones. Someone else may need super-high volume. It all depends on the individual.


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