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From:San Francisco,CA,USA
Registered: Aug 2000

posted August 16, 2000 11:55 PM               

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I'm new to this forum. Does anyone here do weightlifting and martial arts at the same time?
I'm a folkstyle wrestler and have a black belt in tae kwon do.

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From:Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Jul 2000

posted August 17, 2000 12:06 AM               

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Until about 5 months ago, I was into Brazilian Jiu Jitsu/submission fighting, while weight training as well. If you plan on doing both martial arts and bodybuilding, don't lift more than twice a week (assuming you'll be training 3-5 times per week) and eat a lot. Stay away from long cardio sessions and stick to interval training of 10-15 min. per session about twice a week. Of course, if you're doing Take Your Dough, um I mean, Tae Kwon Do, that you may as well lift like you normally would and count your "training" as a cardio session.

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From:tampa, fl, us
Registered: Mar 2000

posted August 17, 2000 12:24 AM               

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planing on starting BJJ after my first cycle is over. Vlaovic, could give me some info on what to expect. I mean i am sore for 3 days at least after leg day. How does that work into training BJJ if at all.

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posted August 17, 2000 04:31 AM            

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BJJ/submissions/NHB here. Moe, I wouldn't worry about the sore muscles too much. What I would worry about is the pain from hyperextended knees, elbows, etc... When you first start out, that pain will stick with you for a while and hurt your workouts. After a while, your body will adapt and it will not hinder your workouts any more.

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posted August 17, 2000 07:18 AM               

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I�m planing to start my Jiu Jitsu in September or October... i�ve had tae kwon do lessons and i reached the red belt... it really isn�t a martial art, but helps you gain some flexibility...

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From:Pierrefonds, QC, Canada
Registered: Apr 2000

posted August 17, 2000 07:59 AM               

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Tae kwon Do isnt a martiel art????
I take JKS, Various martiel arts combined to produce a street wise self defense. Its also the basic training for the octagon.

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From:wayne,nj,usa
Registered: Aug 2000

posted August 17, 2000 09:26 AM            

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Been in competing in judo for about 4 years now. I started late in life(at 27) but there is nothin' like it. It's unexplainable but is a real rush throwin' another adult to the ground against their will.

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posted August 17, 2000 09:41 AM            

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I do some Jujitsu and some Tae Kwon Do.
along with my bodybuilding, but I put off the martial arts for now, because this year's gonna be extremely busy for me, but next year I'm gonna continue with it...

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From:Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Registered: Jul 2000

posted August 17, 2000 10:20 AM               

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Moe, when you decide to start BJJ, take 2 weeks of active rest from your lifting. This will give you time to figure out how much damage is being inflicted on your joints and mucles by this new form of stress. If it's a good academy, you will be hurting - a lot. In fact, while I was training intensly, I literally could not do exercises like preacher curl, because my elbows were far too sore from joint locks. Arm training WILL SUFFER. In fact, If you're not on a cycle, I wouldn't recommend lifting more than twice a week, three times if you've got amazing genetics. BJJ is a highly anarobic activity - very explosive - which means your muscles will be taxed much more heavily than your heart and lungs. As for leg day (god, that was a bitch!), the best advice I can give from experience is put it the day after a BJJ training session and the day before an off day, then go easy on the next BJJ session. Eventually, my workouts changed completely while training. I stopped doing isolation exercises completely. My workouts were composed of squats, high pulls, chins, bench. I focused on training type 2b muscle fibers, which developed my explosive, functional strength (Olympic weightlifting-style), but yielded no gains in size. Keep in mind, for me, weights were just a tool to help training; lifting was secondary. Either way, I would keep isolation exercises to a bare minimum - only when necessary (like to train arms), and I would cut volume BIG TIME. Serious grappling and size gains just don't go hand in hand if you're not on a good cycle.

Hope this helps and sorry about the long post, but I could talk about weight training/grappling forever. E-mail me if you want to talk about any details or anything that comes to mind regarding BJJ/submission fighting (bodybuilding-related or not); [email protected]
or [email protected]

ps had my GNC interview - think it went good!

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posted August 17, 2000 12:44 PM            

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I do BJJ, wrestling and some Thai kick boxing. Trying to do submission grappling and bodybuilding at the same time is tough but it is possible. Wrestling for a couple hours a night a few nights a week can be catabolic if you don't adjust you work outs and diet. I don't work out to look like a bodybuilder or to get huge I do it to get an advantage in strength and become more athletic then any opponent I might be matched against in a tournement.

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From:montreal
Registered: Jun 2000

posted August 17, 2000 12:51 PM               

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I have been doing thai boxing and kick boxing for close to 12 years . I find kick boxing or thai boxing to be the best martial art for a bodybuilder .

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From:Ft.Myers,FL
Registered: Jul 2000

posted August 17, 2000 01:02 PM            

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It's definitely alot harder to weight train and build when you're doing alot of grappling. Expect to pull alot of muscles, expect tons of soreness from joint locks, and expect to be totally drained at the end of class. I take Kyo Sho Kai/ISSA Shootfighting and my body definitely goes through some crazy shit during class. Our first hour is devoted strictly to Western Boxing and Muay Thai. That's some serious cardio! The second hour plus is all grappling, suplexes, slams, and submission work. I personally have missed alot of calf workouts from being caught in damn ankle locks. OUCH!
IMPORTANT! Make sure not to be too cocky or proud once you start. In class make sure that you tap once your toast in some kind of submission. Your ass will get seriously injured if you try to be a hero. Considering that you train, I would think injury is something you would want to avoid at all costs.

I also take Kuk Sool Won and Shaolin 5 animal Kung Fu. Both are interesting but not very high on the reality scale as far as I'm concerned.

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From:Pierrefonds, QC, Canada
Registered: Apr 2000

posted August 18, 2000 01:02 PM               

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People always say dont do other sports or you wont gain muscle. look at most pro athletes, they are all built huge. Look at boxers, hard training but they are in great shape. Then when you look at the average guy at the gym they are usually small and weak. And yet they train only 3 days per week etc..If you want to be strong fast and musclar dont be afraid to play sports. they make your muscles stronger.

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