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Thick dog
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posted August 01, 2000 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
Who is the best football player you have seen? Although he is almost washed up, I have to say Jerry Rice is the best I have seen. No other player has been that much better than every other player at their position. You can't even begin to make an arguement for any other recievers. It will be interesting to see how Randy Moss does in the future.

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havoc
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posted August 01, 2000 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Walter Payton, no doubt, thats it there is no other choice.

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Romeo
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posted August 01, 2000 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeo   Click Here to Email Romeo     Edit/Delete Message
havoc im going to have to disagree..

the 3 best running backs were..

jim brown
barry sanders
gayle sayers..
just my humble opinion

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TxCollegeguy
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posted August 01, 2000 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxCollegeguy   Click Here to Email TxCollegeguy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 48636409
I think it's a joke how even though Walter payton has rushed for more Yards then anyone in NFL that people assume he was the best....

All I have to look at to make any sort of choices are Jim Brown, and Earl Campbell

Reason 1

Neither one of them had full backs blocking for them, well Jim brown did at times, but Earl Campbell never did, probably the reason he only played 8 seasons. And both men did far more without blockers then Payton ever could have done

Reason 2
Both played Big, strong, and fast in your face football...Payton did the strong, and fast and at times in your face but I think some of those injuries he got throught his time would have been avoided had he been a bit bigger...

This same question was asked months ago, and I am still convinced Earl Campbell is the best I ever saw play.....The man never Had a fullback blocking for him, it was always him hitting the line and going with it....The Oilers had a Half ass offensive line when he was around, and 2 even worse quarterbacks so they knew he would rush at least 30 times a game...How many NFL players can say they did that, and He finished after 8 seasons in the top 8 all time leading rushers....I wonder what he would have done with someone blocking for him and a few less rushes a game???

I wish I could have seen Jack Lambert play he might have been the Best player ever, him or Butkus were probably the toughest...

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havoc
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posted August 01, 2000 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Romeo I respect your humble opinion but I dont think Gayle , Berry and Jim had the total package that Payton had, he was an animal, when those bastards would attempt to tackle or stop him , he was the one delivering the blows, that was a tough SOB. He was a ninja in shoulder pads.

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Thick dog
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posted August 01, 2000 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
Payton was great player, in fact, when you think of a football player, Walter Payton is the first one to come to mind. You can, however, make a case for Barry Sanders and Jim Brown being as good as Walter Payton. At quarterback, I have to say Montana is the best, but you can make a case for Unitas or even Marino. At reciever, the conversation starts and ends with Rice.

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posted August 01, 2000 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Whole F/N Show   Click Here to Email The Whole F/N Show     Edit/Delete Message
In person? Deon Sanders

On TV? Barry Sanders. I'm not old enough to have seen Jim Brown play. I've only seen clips.

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posted August 01, 2000 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidg   Click Here to Email davidg     Edit/Delete Message
ohkay,


I know that this is going to be laughed at. But anyway, the best running back ever would have been Bo Jackson. I can still remember how he took out Brian Bosworth.

Pound for pound, the most versatile talented player would have to be Rod Woodson before his injury. He could play nearly any position. And very profeciently I may ad.

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Thick dog
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posted August 01, 2000 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
Bo Jackson had to have been the biggest freak of nature this planet has ever seen. We'll put an asterisk by his name.

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Dlady27
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posted August 01, 2000 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dlady27     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66764840
JR. Seau however you spell his damn last name! Played for the Chargers!!!

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Latimer
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posted August 01, 2000 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Latimer     Edit/Delete Message
Walter Payton
Mike Singletary
Dick Butkus

Best coach ever = Mike Ditka

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Thick dog
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posted August 01, 2000 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
WOW,DLADY knows a little something about football. Junior is a bad ass. The best player ever may be a bit of a stretch, but good nonetheless. Remember his father, Senior Seau?

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davidg
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posted August 01, 2000 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidg   Click Here to Email davidg     Edit/Delete Message
lol latimers' is killin me. da BEARS,BEARS,BEARS, Ditka, sausage.

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Dlady27
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posted August 01, 2000 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dlady27     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66764840
No I do not remember his father! Here is why I like JR. Cause he IS a bad ass he wouldn't take shit from no body! sometimes he wont even listen to the coaches! ha, ha!
He's the man.

Another one I like is Lynn Swan , STEELERS from way back when. (boy did I just show my age) LOl

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posted August 01, 2000 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeo   Click Here to Email Romeo     Edit/Delete Message
as far as receivers go definitly rice ...no doubt

at lb----your gonna have butkus..and nitchke(sp)....

peace romeo

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posted August 01, 2000 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dlady27     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 66764840
hey what happened with the game last night? I had to much BS going on to pay any attention to it! So please update me.

I know SF was playing but with who?

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The Whole F/N Show
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posted August 01, 2000 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Whole F/N Show   Click Here to Email The Whole F/N Show     Edit/Delete Message
Bo Jackson, ah what could have been. Deon was an OK baseballer but Bo was all-star. He was a Pro Bowler too. But that wear and were from being a stud in 2 sports caught up with him rather quickly.

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posted August 01, 2000 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidg   Click Here to Email davidg     Edit/Delete Message
All I can say about the game is the Patriots look average to good. The 49s are going to have a long season.

And Dennis Miller blew.

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Thick dog
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posted August 01, 2000 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
The Patriots blanked the Niners 20-0. It's preseason, so it does'nt mean anything. Nevertheless, SF looked liked shit.

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Thick dog
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posted August 01, 2000 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
Latimer, I stopped liking Ditka once he started sleeping with Ricky Williams.

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davidg
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posted August 01, 2000 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for davidg   Click Here to Email davidg     Edit/Delete Message
Bo Jackson was the fucking man. I lived in Kansas City when he played for the royals. yeh,yeh back when they were good.

Its hard to believe that I saw Bo play along side George Brett.
Aw, the good old days.

Hey, thick dog at least Ditka gets to room with Charles Barkly.

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posted August 01, 2000 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slabcat   Click Here to Email slabcat     Edit/Delete Message
Gotta go with Rice followed by Jim Brown and Joe Montana, Lawrence Taylor.

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Latimer
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posted August 01, 2000 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Latimer     Edit/Delete Message
Iron Mike Ditka never coached the Saints. It was an imposture I tell ya!

I think if Ricky Williams shaved his head he'd add 1/10 of a second to his 40 time.

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scott825
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posted August 01, 2000 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scott825     Edit/Delete Message
one of the ones I got to go with is John Elway,he also was drafted as a major lague pitcher.

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Dogballs
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posted August 01, 2000 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dogballs   Click Here to Email Dogballs     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5005769
I guess non of you guys have ever heard of a player named Lawrence Tayler, tremendous athlete, too bad he is a crack head now

Best center ever - Mark Stepnoski

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Thick dog
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posted August 01, 2000 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
LT is by far the most devastating defensive player I have seen. Ronnie Lott, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, and Singletary are all small specks in his rear view mirror.

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Latimer
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posted August 01, 2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Latimer     Edit/Delete Message
Bobby Boucher was the best college player ever. He was vicious when he played for the mud dogs.


Remember kids, don't smoke crack!

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madbomber31
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posted August 01, 2000 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
before i get to the top ten list, let me say this... jim brown played during a time when the runner was not ruled down until he had no more momentum... he could fall and roll forward a few yards... FACT
top ten list
10 jerome brown... he was great
9 dan marino
8 joe montana- may not put up dans numbers but he won the games
7 ronnie lott, he killed mother fuckers
6 dallas cowboys OLINE in their glory days of the early to mid 90's... i hate them, but they owned the field.
5 mike singletery
4 jerry rice-ya, hes a bitch now
3 LT- crack did this guy good.
2 reggie white-sold out my eagles, but he dominated
1 barry sanders- he did all this with the lions!!! who had no line, no qb, NOTHING!!!!

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Latimer
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posted August 01, 2000 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Latimer     Edit/Delete Message
Jim Brown also played in a time with 12 and 14 game seasons.

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posted August 01, 2000 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbyag   Click Here to Email Gilbyag     Edit/Delete Message
me... lmao

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perfecttrainer
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posted August 01, 2000 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for perfecttrainer   Click Here to Email perfecttrainer     Edit/Delete Message
let's start with linebacker LT reivented that position the only defensive player that could completely dominate a game. Defensive back arguably Ronnie Lott, but yoy could also make an argument for Rod Woodson.Defensive end Deacon Jones. Defensive line Reggie White. Offensive line Max Montoya. Tight end Kevin Winslow or Ben Coates. Wide receiver Jerry Rice. Quarterback Joe montana. Running Back Jim Brown. If i had to pick one out of all of these as the greatest it probably would have to be Jim Brown with LT a close second

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posted August 01, 2000 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DYLAN     Edit/Delete Message
I will definitely go with LT.
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TxCollegeguy
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posted August 01, 2000 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxCollegeguy   Click Here to Email TxCollegeguy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 48636409
I can't believe some of what I'm reading

all this barry sanders symp....Oh cause it was the lions....Jim brown didn't have near the line Sanders did,

and Earl Campbell well He played for the FREAKING Oilers...They didn't call them the Houston Earlers for nothing...Thats all I have to say about that.

Yeah I can't believe I forgot about LT, too bad the drugs got to him.....Earl still has probably the top 2 hits of all time

#1 being that knockout hit he had on the Rams guy where the guy looked like he crumpled into dust...LOL...wow even though the titans are in tennesse I'm glad Eddie George is Kicking ass like The Old Campbell would have...I think if Campbell would have beatin those Steelers and gone to a Superbowl His name would be Synomious with Football...

#2 where he took most of the Steelers line with him for 10yds then knocked the shit out of one of the linebackers before he was dragged down...I don't think even Payton could stretch a carry like he could.

Marino and Campbell are probably the best 2 players that never won a superbowl...anyone else think of someone that fits in there with them???

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posted August 01, 2000 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juice_boy   Click Here to Email juice_boy     Edit/Delete Message
Earl Campbell was the most dominant player of all time. Anyone that watched him play would understand. An entire defense would look for him and he usually carried the ball for 2 or 3 downs out of four. I saw them rip his shirt off, shoulder pads all fucked up, just drag people.

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posted August 01, 2000 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ryry   Click Here to Email ryry     Edit/Delete Message

OJ Simpson baby...
not only did he kill the opposition on the field, he also killed them off the field...

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posted August 01, 2000 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Puc   Click Here to Email Puc     Edit/Delete Message
My Barry Sanders impersonation:

1,-1,-3,2,1,-2,75T,-2,-3,-2,1...

Puc

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posted August 01, 2000 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bjaarki   Click Here to Email Bjaarki     Edit/Delete Message
It's funny how everyone (with only a few exceptions) focuses on ball handlers.

The best player I've ever seen play is Larry Allen, Offensive Lineman, Dallas Cowboys. This guy is huge (!), yet runs like the wind.

Bjaarki

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posted August 01, 2000 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thermo     Edit/Delete Message
barry sanders
lomas brown
jerry ball
all in there primes

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Romeo
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posted August 01, 2000 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeo   Click Here to Email Romeo     Edit/Delete Message
before he broke his leg....probably the best up and coming d lineman ive ever seen..
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bryant young of the sf 9ers...

charles woodson is going to reinvent the d back position...love the guy ..amazing athlete...


you think rady moss is good---watch out for plaxico burress..he is just like moss....looks like a string bean..but the man can catch a ball


peace romeo

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posted August 01, 2000 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Latimer     Edit/Delete Message
I know I'm pro Bears, but Marcus Robinson is shaping up to be a legend. This guy had 13 yards less than Moss, 4 more receptions than Moss, 1 yard less YAC, and 2 td's less than Moss last year. He is definately one of the top 5 recievers in the league no matter how you slice it. He's 6-3 215lbs. He has 3 years NFL experience just like Moss except he only played preseason in 1997 and only 3 games in 1998 but he went to Europe that spring and won the World Bowl and was MVP of the league. This guy is good and I see big things for him in the future.

NAME YDS REC. YDS/REC. LONG TD
M. Harrison 1663 115 14.5 57t 12
J. Smith 1636 116 14.1 62 6
R. Moss 1413 80 17.7 67t 11
M. Robinson 1400 84 16.7 80t 9
T. Brown 1344 90 14.9 47 6

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posted August 01, 2000 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cAbo   Click Here to Email cAbo     Edit/Delete Message
michael Jordan.

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posted August 01, 2000 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Dude   Click Here to Email The Dude     Edit/Delete Message
Of all time? No contest: Jim Brown

Of my time? Talent: Deion Sanders or John Elway. Gotta mention to baddest mother@$#%er as far as attitude is concerned: Greg "I wasn't hired for my disposition" Lloyd.

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posted August 01, 2000 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
Jeff Garcia

man, he was awesome last night, definately up there with the best of all time.

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posted August 01, 2000 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dogballs   Click Here to Email Dogballs     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5005769
For all you guys talking about great o-linemen, you all have named decent ones but the greatest o-lineman handsdown has got to be Anthony Munuoz of the Bengals. That guy was a beast, he bitched everybody.

I dont know why but I have to express my views for my least favorite ball player...I hate that fatass Gilbert Brown (packers), no skills, just a tub of lard with anchors on his feet. He got his ass handed to him by that smaller center from the broncos in the superbowl of 1998.

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posted August 01, 2000 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rippazoid   Click Here to Email rippazoid     Edit/Delete Message
I watched Bo Jackson at Auburn and never missed a game since i lived only 30 minutes from campus. the man was a freak he once ran a 4.28 forty in full pads at 226lbs. man he could have been the best ever.

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posted August 01, 2000 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Dude   Click Here to Email The Dude     Edit/Delete Message
Right on target Dogballs! As far as the O-line goes, I'll throw in two great Steeler centers, maybe the best two to ever play the game: Mike Webster and Dermontti Dawson.

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posted August 02, 2000 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dogballs   Click Here to Email Dogballs     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5005769
Heck yeah Dude, Webster was a great center, too bad about him now, did you hear that when they went to find him to induct him into the hall of fame the poor bastard was living in a car. Sad story.

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posted August 02, 2000 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rexie317   Click Here to Email Rexie317     Edit/Delete Message
Dlady: If you like Jr. Seau then you'll love Dexter Coakley, #52 on the Cowboys. The guy is an absolute tank. 5'10" 230 @ 5%. I hate the Cowboys, but love watchin them for Coakley and now Galloway. Even though hes still young I think Coakley will be called the best line backer of all time soon.

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posted August 02, 2000 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
fuck coakley...he is on his way down just like that fuckin crack addicted gun slinging shit hole team.

gilbert brown had a cool commercial a few years back...

but i think the award for "too bad he didnt play longer"
has to go to the nigerian nightmare...
christian okoye... that mother fucker was 265 lbs, and ran a 4.3 40!!!! get teh fuck out of the way.. could you imagine that?
its like making bettis run like galloway.

by the way, he is now a highschool football coach....

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posted August 02, 2000 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cm3504jm   Click Here to Email cm3504jm     Edit/Delete Message
I saw Jerry Rice dukeing down some Carolina Honeys at Tony Romas On Monday. That guy can put away the food!

Guy walks like a fucking greyhound. Looks like one too.

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posted August 02, 2000 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cm3504jm   Click Here to Email cm3504jm     Edit/Delete Message
I saw Jerry Rice dukeing down some Carolina Honeys at Tony Romas On Monday. That guy can put away the food!

Guy walks like a fucking greyhound. Looks like one too.

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posted August 02, 2000 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cm3504jm   Click Here to Email cm3504jm     Edit/Delete Message
I saw Jerry Rice dukeing down some Carolina Honeys at Tony Romas last Monday 7/24. That guy can put away the food!

Guy walks like a fucking greyhound. Looks like one too. The guy has perfect hair, clothes, shoes, It's like he had a makeup artist work on him before he went to dinner.

Gotta say he is the best receiver of all time-Hands Down!

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posted August 07, 2000 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rancid     Edit/Delete Message
I would have to pick these and leave it at that,due in part to their impact on the league when they played and how they dominated games when they were in them.Ear

Jim Brown, Earl Campbell, Lawrence Taylor,
Jerry Rice, Joe Montana and Johnny Unitas.

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posted August 07, 2000 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snapper55   Click Here to Email Snapper55     Edit/Delete Message
Barry Sanders? The question is best football player, not the flashiest running back, even tho he is a great player, you need to go with an all-around guy like Keyshawn Johnson (not saying he is, but along those lines) Key could be the best all-around player in the leauge right now, but not the best reciever Rod Woodson fit the category too

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posted August 08, 2000 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hunter Thompson     Edit/Delete Message
Nice topic and I'm gointg to throw you guys a curveball and say Chuck Bednarik. He hit Frak gifford so hard he ended his career. It's vicious. And he played every down as a line backer and as a guard. Some of you die hard football fans might know who he is. One tough son of a bitch

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