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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:19 AM
 
anyone see that carjacker get the shit kicked out of him the other day, about 12 or 13 cops pulled him out of the car and beat the shit out of him, Its been all over the news, random cops came running up and started kicking him. They say he was resisting, how the fuck can he resist when he has 14 cops kicking his ass, anyways, the dude is in critical condition now, and the Philidelphia cops are facing some future lawsuits, pretty fucked up. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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scott825 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 520) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:32 AM
For the money that guys probobly gonna get i'd take an ass whippin too. IP: Logged |
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brandon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 113) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:33 AM
If you don't want to get beat up by the cops, don't freakin' carjack! IP: Logged |
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Dirk Diggler Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:35 AM
Anybody who runs from the cops deserves a good beating.  IP: Logged |
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5setsofsix Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:35 AM
I didn't see it and this is the first I'm hearing about it but if he hi-jacked a car he got what he deserved. Everybody's worried about criminals rights. FUCK UM. Let the cops beat the shit out of them every time maybe there would be less crime on the street. IP: Logged |
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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:39 AM
this might help, he was pulled over because his car had been reported stolen, so then he shot at the cops, 45 shots between the 2 sides, then after being shot 5 times, he managed to steal a police car and drive like 2 blocks away, then he got the shit kicked out of him, ok after hearing all that, i see how he deserved it. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Natymike (edited July 13, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 434) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:51 AM
Anybody car-jacks me and I hope the cops splatter some fuckin' brains on the concrete. Fuck that piece of shit! IP: Logged |
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5setsofsix Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted July 13, 2000 09:02 AM
Amen my brothers! Amen! IP: Logged |
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XdawgX Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 63) |
posted July 13, 2000 09:18 AM
i think it's fucking ridiculous how the criminals have more rights than the law-abiding citizens. (ok, maybe that's a little extreme, but i think most of you get my point). the dude fucked up big time... stealing 2 cars (one of which was a cop car), and shooting at police... if you ask me, he deserved whatever he got. [This message has been edited by XdawgX (edited July 13, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Tony72 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 120) |
posted July 13, 2000 10:27 AM
The cops cant do shit anymore.They get introuble for everything...Im not saying all cops are perfect, i mean thiers good and bad in everyone. Criminals deserve an ass beating, maybe they will learn never to do it again. And for the one that rape and kill, they should have a bullet to thier head.... Just my two cents, IP: Logged |
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JustinM Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 33) |
posted July 13, 2000 10:28 AM
Just think about it: if Ronnie Coleman was that cop!!! Ouch!! IP: Logged |
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Thick dog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 929) |
posted July 13, 2000 10:31 AM
If he shot at the cops, I think they showed mercy on him by letting him live. Talk about having a death wish... IP: Logged |
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supersizeme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 56) |
posted July 13, 2000 10:49 AM
Oh no why did you have to say that. There goes the thread. IP: Logged |
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Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 883) |
posted July 13, 2000 10:54 AM
lol supersizeme! Yeah lets try to keep this one clean. I think black, white, brown, yellow, or fuckin blue if 14 cops beat the crap out of someone (justified or not) its going to be all over the news. Slopain IP: Logged |
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TxCollegeguy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 392) |
posted July 13, 2000 11:25 AM
Well he killed one of the cops, and the other cop involved got his hand blown to pieces so I have heard on the news....I don't think it took 14 cops to beat this guy up, but as close knitt as most cops are after killing one of their own I'm not surprised....And I don't think anyone will be screaming Rodney King on this one since 4 of the cops were black...They were kicking him more... I wonder if that black guy that was dressed in street clothes was an undercover cop or some citizen....reguardless wether his car was falsely reported stolen or not, just get out of the damn car, listen to what they say and shut your damn mouth...If you didn't do anything wrong then you can turn around and sue for false arrest, false inprisionment if they keep you for a few hours in lock down...i'm sure you could sue for a few more things to.... 10 people said they witnessed the exchange and said the guy started to resist before the cops grabbed their sticks...I personally think the guy got a little of what he deserves...If he indeed killed the cop then he's going to get it one way or another.... IP: Logged |
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Big Buck Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted July 13, 2000 12:14 PM
he deserved what he got. Fuck his rights...he fucked up, so he got fucked up. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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pizza man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 253) |
posted July 13, 2000 01:19 PM
police should have used their battons and pushed them right up in there so he couldnt sh-- for years. IP: Logged |
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Checkmatebloated Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 603) |
posted July 13, 2000 01:22 PM
I'm with Brandon on this one. Don't commit a crime and you won't get beat. It's that simple! IP: Logged |
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greenhouse Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 309) |
posted July 13, 2000 01:49 PM
A bouncer is paid to protect and server the people in the bar from idiots. And I would with out a doubt in my mind the the dog-shit of some ass-clown if he shot another bouncer. I would probably ending up killing him. He got off lucky... IP: Logged |
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greenhouse Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 309) |
posted July 13, 2000 01:50 PM
A bouncer is paid to protect and server the people in the bar from idiots. And I would with out a doubt in my mind the the dog-shit of some ass-clown if he shot another bouncer. I would probably ending up killing him. He got off lucky... IP: Logged |
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ryry Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 582) |
posted July 13, 2000 02:08 PM
if that guy ends up getting paid... thats just going to piss me off! where else can you steal two cars, shoot at the police, kill a police man, and cry "police brutality" and sue for a millions of dollars. only in america... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Whammo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 98) |
posted July 13, 2000 03:36 PM
Not to be the wet blanket, but violence isn't the solution to everything guys. No wonder the USA is so ridden with crime and fear of your neighbour. I know this is going to sound preachy, but the police are supposed to set an example. Even if the guy did do all that, the police should do everything to detain him, hell, shoot him in a non-fatal place ONCE TO STOP HIM for all I care, but a 14-person beating - yeah, that's "necessary force".. Don't do a crime and you don't have to worry? Ok sample situation: Guy committs a crime, shoots a cop, he runs, strangly enough, you are walking by and you look just like the criminal, 14 cops come out of nowhere an beat you senseless... Moral decision now: would you rather have had the cop HAVE TO use NECESSARY force on you and just detain you or have the RIGHT to have his 14 buddies roast your ass... think about it... Yeah, so the criminal was violent, matching violence with violence does nothing but let the kids of America that it is ok to BE violent, because people are feeling vindicated and justice has been served. Well, what if a kid was beat on by a bully at school, and the other kid decided, hell.. if the police can do whatever they want to a guy for 'revenge' why don't I just shoot the bully?!? this guy is a criminal, and a heartless one at that.. but why didn't they just grab sharp objects and stick it in the guys eyes? or cut off his ear? because that would be wrong or excessive? Please deliniate the beatings between the example I just gave and tell me how they differ. As far as getting paid. GOOD! I hope he gets lots... you know where that money comes from?? YOU GUYS!! People who foster the idea that what these cops do is ok, are the ones who also propigate the idea to other people, and the cops thinking it is ok and morally right to do this!! Well.. since it is NOT morally right to have 14 people attack someone, somebody should pay.. and it is the taxpayers.. THAT is real justice!!! I know I am going to get flamed, but I have never attacked anyone, nor wish to be attacked. I don't like the police because of the drugs laws as much as the next guy, but at least I feel safe for myself and others when they are around. And if I do get busted or commit a crime? I know I will end up in one piece if I get arrested. I hope someone sees things the same as me vs. what the general populous thinks... [This message has been edited by Whammo (edited July 13, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Checkmatebloated Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 603) |
posted July 13, 2000 04:22 PM
Whammo, You make some good points, but you have not changed my mind. Don't to the crime and you don't have to worry is what I am in ref to. With the law of large #'s we are always going to somebody that gets screwed in this world, like the innocent guys on death row. That is a risk I am willing to live with so to me "don't do the crime and you don't have to worry" is thoughout enough for me. I would in no way want to be the mistaken ID person and get beat by my mistake, but again It is going to happen some day. IP: Logged |
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WannaBeBig Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 100) |
posted July 13, 2000 07:30 PM
I don't understand why citizens get hurt just for punching or shooting cops, I mean that's what they are there for aren't they? IP: Logged |
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BigWh1tey Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 154) |
posted July 13, 2000 07:47 PM
Thats life in philly .... what you gonna do? When Rizzo was police chief they would have shot down the news helicopter for video taping . But seriously , if you shoot at the cops you gotta know if you get caught your getting the rough ride to the station anyway. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Checkmatebloated Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 603) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:20 PM
Really these cops are idiots. All they need to do is get the guy and cuff him. Take him around the corner while a couple of other cops are in the back seat with him and kick the shit out of him without all these people watch. I guess in a chase the cameras would see he had no injuries when he left the sceen, but show up at the stations all phucked up, so that might not work in this situation. IP: Logged |
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Tony72 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 120) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:59 PM
Lets just keep putting these guys in jail and pay for them to watch tv, eat 3 good meals a day and lift weights. WTF! Why not give them more?!!! Its only our tax money right? Tony IP: Logged |
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Kaisersosay Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 248) |
posted July 13, 2000 10:00 PM
Hell,that's like hanging out with 14 of your friends and somebody shoots one of them.I know what I would fucking do.I think this was justicfied.Not to metion all the adranaline pumping.The only thing they did wrong was doing it in front of a helicopter. IP: Logged |
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flashman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted July 13, 2000 10:31 PM
here in the land of Oz the politicaly correct fucked up media is making it out to be another Rodney King incident, it just makes me puke. Australia has the highest per capita Car steeling racket in the world, it cost the W.A. (the state were I live ) taxpayers 1 billion dollars a year. And mind u were only @ 2 million here in W.A. it just makes me won't to kill all those mother fukers. And I just hope Mr Cage's fleet of fancy cars get carjaked. hehee sweet revenge ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Pokemon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 171) |
posted July 13, 2000 10:34 PM
I didn't see ANY thing wrong in that video. If I was the pilot of that helicopter, I would of crash smack down on him and bail out. In my world, they should of have hook a chain on his ankle to the back end of the police car and drove around town!!!! Now thats an excellent example of law enforcement. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Whammo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 98) |
posted July 14, 2000 12:11 PM
Hey.. a steroid user killed someone I know, so any steroid user = a murderer. I guess I have the right to beat the living hell out of every one of you juicers because in MY EYES you are equal to being a murderer, and that offends ME deeply, so could everyone please tell me who you are and where you live so I can have 14 people beat you up? What I am saying guys is NOBODY but the courts have the right to do ANYTHING TO ANYBODY.. not even cops. If the criminal did do all that, then the courts will vindicate the victims, it is NOBODY'S RIGHT no matter how wronged they are, to harm someone like that. You guys quote yoru precious Charter of Right, declaration of independence, etc, but the justice system is built out of those.. you can do stuff like quote the nth ammendment yet decide that vigilantism is ok.. Not to sound elitist, but you guys need to re-evaluate your value system. I am not posting to tell anyone they are wrong, but I want people to take a thought out approach before they go and beat someone senseless or figure that they should be able to shoot someone at will for 'x' reason. Sorry for the rant guys.. but.. the world is too violent already. When I have kids, I don't want to have to 'arm' them to go to school.
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brandon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 113) |
posted July 14, 2000 12:42 PM
Whammo, I am in no way advocating a vigilante philosophy. I do believe that people should attain to the consequences of their actions. You are correct; the cops have no legal right to take the law into theirs hands. That is what the courts are there for. Morally, however, this man did not nearly get what he deserved. We as a society need to re-evaluate our value system. The justice system is NOT a substitute for your moral values. Laws should never take place of knowing the difference between right and wrong. Your steroid user example does not relate to the discussion at hand. You don�t become a murderer by virtue of association, you become a murderer by virtue of being a murderer. So, if you don�t want to be a murderer, don�t murder anybody. The world is too violent already. It�s about time we are held accountable for our actions. When I have kids, I don�t want to have to worry about some cancer doing wrong, and then becoming a poster child for injustice. In short: No, they did not. Did they have the moral right to hurt this menace to society? You�re God dammed right they did. Thanks� IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 434) |
posted July 14, 2000 02:13 PM
Its so easy to sit in a comfort chair and pick appart the police. If you were down there and shit hit the fan, you don't know what drugs this guy is on, if any, what other weapons or what. Cops have to work as a team, not stand around and see if just one or two cops can surpress this situation, thats why there was so much piling on. Human behavior and strength is very unpredictable, especially in bizarre situations such as this one. IP: Logged |
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Mr. T Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 547) |
posted July 14, 2000 02:28 PM
I love all you armchair quarterbacks who sit around second guessing everything anyone does. Have you ever heard of adrenaline? Have you ever been shot at? Have you ever just seen a good friend shot? No? Than how do you know how you would react? Cops are people with emotions, not robocops. I love how no one gives a shit about the cop that got his hand blown off. Everyone only cares about some fuck up that got a little ruffed up. Get a grip. IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 434) |
posted July 14, 2000 02:30 PM
Goddamn right, Mr T. Thank you! IP: Logged |
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Snapper55 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted July 14, 2000 02:49 PM
Even I, an extreme liberal think this guy deserved to be beaten up, the cops were shot at and their lives were at risk until the guy couldnt move/ was unconcious...this does not seem anything like Rodney King to me, this is a different world...assuming what I read here is accurate ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Romeo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 368) |
posted July 14, 2000 03:04 PM
in my opinion any fight where there is more than one on one ex.(2on1-3on1)..is for pussies ..if you are going to fight someone ..then fight them by yourself not with 8 friends watching your back with itchy fists.. as far as what the cops did i think it was wrong ..but i also think that the man got what he had coming his way....if you can understand that at all peace romeo IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 434) |
posted July 14, 2000 03:28 PM
Oh shit, i don't have enough hours in my life to justify this, it seems like. LOOK, we are not talking about boys having it out on the playground for Christsake! This is law enforcement It has a purpose other than "lets see who is the badass." Oh, say, the next time we go to war, lets take the same # of beans and bullets so nobody will think we're pussies. I can't believe I'm having to explain this! IP: Logged |
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mrbill Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 86) |
posted July 14, 2000 08:36 PM
Why oh why is there so much sympathy for the criminal in this country. We are not talking about some guy that had the crap beat out of him for jaywalking. This guy was involved in a multiple shooting, carjacking, and then attempting to flee. I beleive any cop that uses force on a suspect that is not attempting to flee or resist should immediately be fired and then criminally prosecuted. This situation does not meet that standard and lethal force was completely justified in this situation. One last thing...i can guarantee that for anyone who thought this guy was treated so bad if it was your car that he "jacked" and he then shot a couple members of your family you would not be nearly so sympathetic. What happened to common sense and basic moral values in this country?? IP: Logged |
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Checkmatebloated Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 603) |
posted July 14, 2000 08:41 PM
Kill'm all. Them phuckers, just kill'm all! I am sick of them no good phuks taken money from people. The break into your house and you shoot them in the back on the way out your window and you go to jail. What the hell is that all about?
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flashman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted July 15, 2000 01:05 AM
jeez reading all the liberal posts just make me sick. just today in the news, a small time business owner whose factory was broken into last week and had 60,000 dollars damages. he was working late when 2 robbers broke in again he's 60 years old and he was to frightend to check it out so he fired two shots in the air as a warning and now he is facing 2 years in jail. what is the world coming to ??????? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Pokemon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 171) |
posted July 15, 2000 01:36 AM
NO Checkmatebloated, after you shoot them, you gotta PULL their bloody body inside your house then call the police. Don't use hallow point either, its hard to defend yourself in court. I'm just "repeating what people say". my $.02 ------------------ IP: Logged |
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shmucko Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 148) |
posted July 15, 2000 01:38 AM
I really don't want to live in a country where cops can get off scot-free for beating someone down regardless of the situation. They should be professionals and not abuse their authority. I also can fully understand the officers frame of mind and don't blame them one bit, they are human. That said I do believe they deserve some disciplinary action. I feel the lawsuits should be thrown out immediately. That dude in ICU is responsible, he started the chain of events. IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 434) |
posted July 15, 2000 11:00 AM
We sure are going to have a hard time hiring cops if we don't have a realistic way of dealing with these crazy bastards. What do you suggest we do when shit hits the fan? Counseling? Yeah, right. [This message has been edited by mightydog (edited July 15, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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ralphe Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 196) |
posted July 17, 2000 11:58 AM
The damn media is the problem.....people see too much.........If you have never been shot at or had a friend shot and killed then you have not idea what you are talking about...... IP: Logged |
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lexicon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 324) |
posted July 17, 2000 01:03 PM
A lot of cops (especially State) are just plain assholes. Instead of helping and making law abiding citizens lives easier they do the opposite. I know there are some good ones out there but as of late I'm really down on cops. I definately don't trust them and they are huge hippocrates. As soon as one gets hurt they expect everyone to have parades and such like they are gods or something. There is a very fine line between cops and criminals . IP: Logged |
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BigPappa Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 524) |
posted July 17, 2000 02:38 PM
Personally, I would take the "Judge Dread" approach and would sentence him right there and then on the street and then execute him. Police brutality is simple. Don't fucking commit any crimes and you don't have to deal with the police. This fucker carjacked and who knows what else he has done or will do. Too many humans in this world already for this scumbag to be sucking up much needed resources such as air, water, tax money, wellfare, etc... Bottomline is, don't commit crimes. Sounds simple, doesn't it? You know what? IT IS! I have never had to face police "brutality" because I follow the rules. Simple..not rocket science. IP: Logged |
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