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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted July 12, 2000 10:04 PM
  
Its summer and school is out and maybe thats why I notice it more than ever: Kids today are turning into goddamn fat asses! Just today I went to super wal mart and saw three fat little bastards hanging off this shopping cart, one look like he had cake and ice cream smeared on his t-shirt. Their mother was a big ol' heifer too, loading up the shopping cart with all kinds of ringy-dingy-dongy snacks. Doesn't that sound like a form of child abuse? IP: Logged |
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goleafs Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 693) |
posted July 12, 2000 10:09 PM
when i was a kid my mom would litterally kick me out of the house to go play and i never came back till the streetlights came on. now all they do is sit around and play video games or stare at the television. i see the same thing. hows this for a society case study: the reason kids are fatter now than they were say ten years ago , is because of economic pressure. parents are forced to buy lesser quality food with higher fat content and more garbage in it. maybe thats extreme , but i do know that my mother being a doctor , i used to eat very clean. IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted July 12, 2000 10:33 PM
Nah, if that were the case, just buy rice in bulk. Works for the Chinese. I think its the fat ass lazy parents who find it easy to give the kids whatever taste good to them so it will shut them up. Fast food= fast sloution. IP: Logged |
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JohnnyO Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 100) |
posted July 12, 2000 10:33 PM
The kids are way way too fat today.. I know this one kid about 14years old, who must be close to 250 pounds on a 5'8" frame... he has bigger titties than most girls I know. He probably needs a sports bra to run. I saw him once eat 10 hot dogs with chillie and cheese, and then drink a 64oz dr. pepper...oooohhhh I get an insulin rush just thinking about it. IP: Logged |
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BuffBlondie Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 59) |
posted July 12, 2000 10:42 PM
Got last week's issue of Newsweek...? Fat kids is the cover story. I think it's pathetic how not just kids, but Americans in general today are getting fatter. The obesity rate has increased over the years, despite the health boom and all the craze over healthy foods, etc. Americans are just plain lazy, plus technology makes it virtually impossible to do anything ourselves nowadays...I mean, we have cars, computers, escalators, pizza delivery...the list of "luxuries" goes on and on...add to this the cheap cost of fast food (compared to the "cost" of buying good stuff and fixing it ourselves), and we've got a bunch of fat, lazy slobs that makes me embarrassed to be associated with them! I would rather associate with people who are in the same boat as me...who workout and like to take care of themselves...sometimes I feel like I just can't relate to the "average" person... phew! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted July 12, 2000 10:43 PM
Thats right, that kid is gonna be made fun of and screw up his socialization. Another point: There is big money in products made to make kids crave all this damn sugar. Look at the cold cereal isle sometime. What the hell are we trying to do to them? Will law makers in Washington do something about this why they're about to trash our worhtless andro? Ha! IP: Logged |
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Rexie317 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted July 12, 2000 10:45 PM
Kids are getting fatter more than ever. I'm still kinda a kid (16, so lets say adolescent eh) and would go nuts if I ever let myself go. I don't see how can someone can let their kid get like that. Then instead of exercising to get back in shape, if they attempt to, they go out and buy some pill that speeds up their metabolism yet still eat food packed in fat. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bikinimom Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 209) |
posted July 12, 2000 11:01 PM
I don't think its fast food that is wholely responsible here. I believe that gameboy and nintendo or whatever the hell is the latest video game and cable TV. We don't live very lavishly but my children do have a big backyard, bicycles, swingset, sandbox, and oh yes, the most technologically advanced entertainment system money can buy, keeps the kiddies entertained for hours ....what is it?..... A BALL!!!! I don't get it. Parents put their kids in a car and drive to someone's house for a "play date" where the kids sit and watch TV or play video games, don't talk to each other, don't use their minds, and eat cheese balls and drink gallons of juice or soda then get back into the car, drive home, more TV and video games and stop at McDonald's for dinner which they eat in the car or in front of the TV.......Oh my God, I'm exhuasted just typing that shit! I do not have cable, NO VIDEO GAMES EVER, I only allow to play computer games if the weather sucks or if they have read enough. As for fast food, my kids do have hamburgers and fries on occasion (NEVER SODA!!! and only ONE JUICE BOX PER DAY, unless it's a party or some other special occasion). But generally protein, complex carbs and veggies..my hubby makes breakfast EVERY morning, NEVER CHEERIOS OR CAP'N CRUNCH - cereal is not food - it is a snack/treat. And if they eat a sufficient amount of real food they can have candy, cookies, etc. By the way my children don't even sit still to eat ...they are so active I have actually been accused (By my REALLY FAT sister-in-laws) of manipulating their diets to make them thin! I'm like you gotta be FUCKING KIDDING ME!!! My sisters-in-law forgot that when they were kids they were also very active and were also thin .... (my how quickly we forget!) Chubby kids are OK - we do not all have to be rail thin. But, 10 year old boys with 35 year-old corporate bodies? 7 year old girls wearing training bras, not because of premature development but because of THAT much bodyfat IS NOT NORMAL!!!! And what they teach our children in school about nutrition is UNBELIEVABLE! I tell my kids that they should know the answers that the teacher wants them to know and then I give them accurate information. And they are somewhat confused because the information I am furnishing them is contradictory to what they are taught in school, I just ask them, "What does your teacher look like? ...What do mommy and daddy look like? ...Who's telling the truth? YOU ARE MOMMY." DON'T GET ME STARTED. IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted July 12, 2000 11:10 PM
And another thing... I'm not a parent, but do any of you pay attention to these school lunches. I remeber eating tater tots, lots of them. Never a baked potato, it was always tater tots! Damn that cafateria to hell! FRIGGIN' TATOR TOTS!!! IP: Logged |
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WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1287) |
posted July 13, 2000 01:09 AM
THERE IS NO MORE EXCUSE FOR FAT KIDS, AS THERE IS FOR FAT ADULTS!!!! I agree with bikinimom that alot is due in part to all the shit that kids have to today which keeps them sedintary. Im not saying jack your infants bottle with protein powder (although I probably will..heh..heh..) but set a damn example of activity for your children. They learn all of their personal traits from guess who?..right their parents. Teach them good eating habits while they are young..and let them watch you, and your daily activities. Teach them to stay fit, and they will more than likely hold those lessons a life time.. GET UP..GET OUT...GET OFF THE FUCKING COUCH!!
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 580) |
posted July 13, 2000 01:29 AM
BikiniMom -- I hope you are reading this -- that "example" you gave described a standard day in my childhood to erie detail, straight down to the cheesballs. I am 23, so I grew up with Atari instead of Dreamcast, but the results were the same. I was extremely fat. Regardless of the fact I am no longer fat, not even close, I still deal constantly with the physchological scars that kind of a childhood inflicted upon me. The psychological problems that obesity almost ineviatably leads to are damning. I could fill a book describing the self-esteem and insecurity issues alone. I am terribly afraid of an entire generation of Americans growing up like that. It petrifies me. IP: Logged |
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Pamela Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42) |
posted July 13, 2000 02:13 AM
I am with PUC! I myself was very fat as a kid, and that was years ago. It is very damaging as a child to be over weight. I weighed more in the 2nd grade than I do now. And being from the south I never knew how to eat good food and stay lean, so I would starve myself. Needless to say lead to an drug and a eating disorder. Until I finished school and move to California, and started excercising. Meet my husband that was in great shape! Now after 20 something years later (of excercising and eating right) he says I look better than some of the 20 years olds. I hope these kids we are taking about, have the chance to learn as they grow into adulthood, as I did!!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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Frackal Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 524) |
posted July 13, 2000 02:24 AM
Well... it's kinda my generation you're talking about, (I just turned 18) and you guy's aren't exaggerating a BIT about the amount of fatass kids out there. The main thing that pisses me off is this PC, Don't-make-fun-of-the-fat-person-'cause-it's-not-their-fault bullshit. That certainly is not helping. Oh well, more fine girls for me. IP: Logged |
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Rob-Guns Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 13) |
posted July 13, 2000 02:25 AM
Man you're right there, over her in Australia, we have a problem with young fatties running all over the place, but I think they are trying to to change they way people think via a national awareness effort. Less computer games, more sport! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bikinimom Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 209) |
posted July 13, 2000 07:25 AM
Hey, I fell your pain ....I was a fat kid and a yo-yo diet chick (as pics testify), but my fat was due to a mom who made you clean your plate. My dad was a butcher so there was no crap on said plate but because my mom grew up poor she wanted her children to have what she didn't - an abundance of food being one of them. I remember sitting at the table crying not wanting to finish and my mother saying she worked hard to make the meal that my father worked hard to pay for ...so I had to eat it ALL. Because of this I never knew when I was full. I'm not mad at my parents, they did what they thought was best. I know, however, (from experience) that you never EVER stuff a kid. If they fill up on good food there won't be a lot of room for garbage. As for the activities, if my kids are bored ...I always have chores for them!!!! (Aren't I a stinker?!  )IP: Logged |
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XdawgX Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 63) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:30 AM
i too was raised on the 'finish your plate' mentality, even though we always ate a healthy dinner. i'm 21, and growing up that's all i heard. even still, that's etched in my brain. as for kids now-a-days... i think it's a combination of things. firstly, i blame it on all the sugar and snacks. every commercial on tv (especially during children's programming hours) is for some kind of snack cake, cookie, soda, etc... that, combined with video games, makes a deadly combination. sitting on your arse, while eating ho-ho's and ding-dong's is not going to do anyone any good. IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:47 AM
I think it would be tough to be a parent. You can send them out to play, but if all their friends are budding couch potatoes who the in the hell are they going to play with?When they get older and mix with peers who are greasy fries eating sacks of shit, who's to say your kids wouldn't pick up these eating habits. IP: Logged |
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brumans2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 281) |
posted July 13, 2000 09:27 AM
I dont even eat what my mom and dad cooks.. I make all my 6 meals by myself.. IP: Logged |
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Romeo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 395) |
posted July 13, 2000 11:50 AM
kids dont get into sports or girls until highschool....and buy that time they are already screwed ..with all the technology who needs to even walk out the door peace romeo IP: Logged |
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riptchick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 194) |
posted July 13, 2000 11:53 AM
LOL Bmom....I think that we may have corrupted our kids the other way. Sometimes to the point where I worry about that. My five year old has a posing routine for God's sake! They think all parents go to the gym and know the nutritional breakdown of most foods. I must admit that we are very permissive with the video games etc. but go hiking, biking, camping etc as well. I think it all boils down to this. How educated were you when you had kids and Do you spend time with them or not? I see alot of loving parents who have NO idea about nutrition and what is healthy and what is not and I have seen some very selfish parents who know better but would just rather let the tv spend time with their kids. IP: Logged |
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skydancer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 377) |
posted July 13, 2000 12:01 PM
Aughhh - I hate subjects like these....I see entire obese families all the time and I just want to pull my hair out!! It breaks my heart to see parents dragging their kids to McD's for a "balanced meal"...these same parents complaining about how they don't want to pass the "fat genetics" onto their children, all the while drugging them with coke, candy and video games. I think it IS a form of abuse when a parent won't educate themselves on how to take care of their children nutrtionally and physically. Then there is the other extreme I've heard too "if my daughter EVER gets fat, I'm sending her to a fat farm" Yeah lady, that will solve the friggen' problem...how about learning about balanced nutrition and an active lifestyle first before putting your child on some sort of program??? My favorite is (in a really pissy whiney voice) "well they won't eat any veggies, they don't like fruit...the say they will throw up and only will eat pizza!" Well you know what??? If you don't give them any other goddamn food they WILL EAT what you put in front of them!! They are NOT going to starve to death if they are stubborn and skip a few meals while you are in you power struggle! Goddamn it people, get some balls...YOU ARE THE PARENTS!! The kids DO NOT run the show!!! (Phew - rant over!) IP: Logged |
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runner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 123) |
posted July 13, 2000 12:07 PM
love you bikinimom! nintendo and all that other crap have had such a negative impact on our youth. not only are kids much more inactive physically, but their brains are not challenged. kids don't read or exercise anywhere near enough nowadays. if i ever have kids (and i'd like to) they will NOT be slaves to the tv/nintendo! IP: Logged |
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bikinimom Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 209) |
posted July 13, 2000 05:58 PM
Sky, Girl, you kill me! I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! (I especially LOVE the part about the pissy little whine! (Incidentally, do you know my sisters-in-law? j/k) Girl, you are too much.) GROW SOME BALLS PEOPLE, I don't think parenting today is really much more difficult than it was for our parents or theirs before them. They may not have had the difficulties we have, they did have difficulties nonetheless. Personally I don't know if I would trade places with my parents ..leave everything and everyone you've known your entire life, come to a new country with the clothes on your back and be treated like an idiot (even though you are an intelligent, capable adult) because you don't know a word of English! Could you imagine buying dog food instead of "people food" because you couldn't read the labels (Incidentally, that is why they now have pictures of the animals on the cans in the US now.)? Anyway, now that I've strayed WAY-OFF the topic at hand ....I agree with you all .....IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN, BE A PARENT. PERIOD!!! IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 580) |
posted July 13, 2000 08:43 PM
Pamela -- I am dealing with the eating disorder currently. It is good to know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel... Puc IP: Logged |
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Pamela Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 42) |
posted July 14, 2000 06:04 AM
Puc: I know what you are going through!! :-( And I want to say I am sorry!! That was the hardest thing I had to deal with in my Life so far!! The best thing I can tell you. DON'T BE HARD ON YOURSELF! It only makes matters worse. Continue to eat healthy and exercise, and LOVE yourself for the way you look. And remember we are all individuals. I believe an eating disorder is to punish ourselves for something that was out of our control when we were very young. I believe you will know what I am talking about!! It's time to quit and take control back over your life. Make up your mind, and remember you are the only person that can do it!! I sorry I kept going on and on, but I wanted you to know my thoughts are with you. ;-) Pamela IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 580) |
posted July 15, 2000 09:05 PM
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SassyS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted July 16, 2000 08:48 AM
At my neighborhood pool there are TONS of obese children. Im not talking cute and pudgy with baby fat. I mean huge rolls of blubber hanging down over their bathingsuits. I watch their mothers give them money and they teeter over to the snack bar and buy candy and potato chips every 5 minutes. The mothers are usually not very heavy, but it seems like they just feed these kids so the kids dont bother them while they are busy laying out, chatting with their friends. Kids are so busy eating, they rarely swim and get the exercise they really need. IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted July 16, 2000 09:44 AM
Thats it! There ought to be a law. This is kinda off the subject, but just today i witnessed some fat fuck trailor trash ridin' down the highway with their windows up, kiddies in the back and both parents smoking! WTF?? IP: Logged |
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Digga Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 17, 2000 10:12 AM
I know this might sound stupid but....I used to be fat when I was a kid, and I think it helped me. I was fat until my sophmore year in high school, and I used to hate it, I could never stand looking the way I did and always hated my body. This is when being fat helped me: I started to lift at the high school weight room and everyone was impressed with how much weight I could throw around(because of my size I was like 5'4" but 215lbs!!), this boosted my self esteem. I started to diet and eventually I got down to about 180. I was still not satisfied and eventually got to 160. Being fat created an excellent foundation for my lifting career. We cannot push these over weight kids too hard, they are the only ones that can loose the weight. Whenever someone tried to tell me that I needed to loose weight I just got discuraged(sp?) and ate more. Kids have to do it for themselves and not for someone else. my .02, Digga IP: Logged |
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nobu Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 173) |
posted July 17, 2000 10:52 AM
fat people cant help being fat, they have a certian cromasome that gives them a big appetite and slow metabolism. while others can easily fluctuate their weight depending on their diet. i was close to being overweight during sophmore year i was like 5'5 170 pounds, no muscle, and the thing that made me get in shape was when my own dad told me i was fat like a pig, so like all teens when they get put down they dont eat, well i hardly eat anything close to healthy portions for about a year, and whet from 5'5 170 to 5'9 130, i was scrawny beanpole, i lost all the fat and muscle. so about 6 months ago i started lifting and eating seriously and starting to pack on muscle slowly, because i nearly starved myself for a year it takes me so long to build muscle, right now im 5'10 140, and working really hard to build more muscle and get strong like i used to be, but this time i will be ripped. im glad that i went through this problem while i was young it allowed me to get educated about food and nutrition; quality not quantity. because of this experience a wont ever be out of shape again. i absolutly love working out, weight training is the best thing you can do to your body. IP: Logged |
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ralphe Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 197) |
posted July 17, 2000 11:21 AM
The biggest problem is that the parents are lazy and don't care. I work my job come home and play with my kids "every day." They are allowed one hour of TV per day this includes video games. They can have all the snacks they want but you will find carrot sticks, apples, oranges, etc.... We have a water cooler in the kitchen so Coke is not an option.....they work out with me, ride bikes with me, swim, etc. They play at least one sport per season (because they want to), they are not rude and noisey, and they are not FAT........ Just like for adults it takes work ..it is easy to be fat.....been there done that and will not allow it in my children....they make grow up and be pigs later but not in my house..... Later IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted July 17, 2000 12:56 PM
This country needs more like ralfe. IP: Logged |
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runner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 123) |
posted July 17, 2000 01:08 PM
i agree...good job ralphe. nobu, you better study up on your science. IP: Logged |
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bikinimom Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 209) |
posted July 17, 2000 01:47 PM
Nobu - no flame here but I have to say that the comment about fat people not being able to help being fat because of chromosomes giving them larger appetites and slower metabolisms (I believe) is absolute BUNK. If this were true I don't think, No, I KNOW there would not be any "former fat kids" or "former fat adults". After all their weight problem is due to genetics not inactivity, poor diet, or just lack of proper information right?. It's about choices. Do I choose to eat that Ring-ding or Ho-ho? Sometimes the answer is, "Yes." Could I walk around at 10% bf most of the time? The answer is, "Yes." Do I WANT to - NO! Get it - CHOICES. I'm very happy for you that you discovered weight training and I'm sorry that you had to be "teased" into losing weight (I was a fat kid). It seems though that you went from one extreme to the other. If you expect to put on quality mass while remaining very lean - it just isn't going to happen. On this topic, I again am speaking from experience. It seems that there is some stuff going on within you and you need to sort some stuff out. Get educated about weight-training and proper diet. DO NOT STARVE YOURSELF TO STAY LEAN - YOU ARE ONLY HURTING YOURSELF ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE STILL GROWING. As for the lazy (at worst) or misinformed (at best) adults who do not teach their children to care for their bodies' - it is sad, sad, sad. The people who smoke around their children with the windows rolled up, no less - should be publicly executed. Just my .02! IP: Logged |
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Bjaarki Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted July 17, 2000 02:15 PM
I like Bikinimom's and Skydancer's views very much. There's a lot in the media and in the professional press right now about obesity, which is just as much a problem in the adult cohort as among kids (lesson: fat parents raise fat kids!). I recently had the chance to hear a colloquium by Kelly Brownell at Yale, who's a leading obesity researcher. He points out that, while obesity rates have skyrocketed over the past 20 years, not all of this can be attributed to low activity levels. He instead points to the easy availability of cheap, extremely tastey, high calorie foods. A lot of the problem, as he sees it, has to do with the very good taste (whether salty or sweet) of this shitty junkfood out there. That, and its ubiquitousness. Makes you hate every Dunkin Donuts marquis you see. Just wanted to throw that in. Check out Dr. Brownell's work some time. There's plenty of stuff on the web about it. Bjaarki ------------------ BECOME SOMEONE'S HERO! IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 459) |
posted July 17, 2000 02:35 PM
This isn't a tuff one. It's all about life style. I have a friend great person ,way over weight. 5'6" - a clean 450 pounds. She has gone as far to find what I call a "Fat Doctor". This asshole of an MD will go as far as to tell her she is prefectly healthy and not change a thing. Freakin asshole. This poor woman has to take a break to get up a set of 10 steps. But mind you she is fine because the doctor said so. Sorry just had to share. IP: Logged |
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Iron God Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 215) |
posted July 17, 2000 02:58 PM
Well I for one am thankful I was a "fat" kid I was 12 years old 5'6 and weighed 200lbs attribute my overall muscularity(5'10 271lbs 16% bf) today to the fact I never missed a meal growing up.I laugh now when I see the same boys who teased me (and got a beatin for it) as grown men asking me for training advice on how they could go about putting on weight. We're Americans we're supposed to be Super-Sized not look like some under fed 3rd worlders. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted July 17, 2000 03:02 PM
Maybe she pays well. 5'6" 450, that rump is too big to hump! IP: Logged |
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MightyMaus4 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24) |
posted July 18, 2000 08:08 AM
People, People! I grew up in Germany where we had no Ding-Dong's, Ho-Ho's or Twinkies. My mom stayed home and cooked every day. We had fruit for snacks and had chips available if we wanted. In school I learned all about nutrition and exercise for several years in mandatory classes. There were very few "fat" kids around. When we played, we played outside with all the kids in the neighborhood. I have never been overweight and as far as I can remember back....have always eaten right. Coming to this country I found that #1 it is too hot here during the summer to be doing much running during the day, #2 Ding-Dongs and such are easily available, and #3 parents, and most of them are working, buy prepared foods for their children. I am not saying all parents are like that, as we can see on this board, but 80-90% seem to be. Kids get placed in DayCare after they are born, go to DayCare after school and are mostly given pre-packaged food because it is easy. Here, again, I am not saying everybody is doing that, but the majority is or there would not be that many fat children running around. YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT! Educated people get involved in their children's lifes, teach them how to do things and among other things how to eat right. You have to live what you preach and your children will emulate you! It seems to me that a lot of "things" are very lax in this country. Yes, it is always quicker and more convenient to take the "easy way" out of things. I understand parents are tired when they come home from work but I think they owe it to their children to raise them right. I think education should start at an early age so children grow up with the correct knowledge. If parents do not know how to do this, as parenthood does not come with its own instruction manual, than it should be taught in school. And what about all that school cafeteria food? Tater tots, French Fries, greasy chips..... YUK. What ever happened to eating an apple or a banana? And what is up with all this Kool-Aid crap? Water should be made available in bottles at the cafeteria. For free! I think the word is convenience! Fat kids are raised all around us by mostly uneducated (nutritionally) and ignorant people. Think this will take a grass-roots effort. Don't think it is a "glandular" problem but a lack of education and exercise. Restricting children to one hour of TV/video games sounds reasonable. Parents just need to get more involved and get of that couch... Thought I would share my POV! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 441) |
posted July 18, 2000 08:17 AM
Hehehe. Thats my girl! IP: Logged |
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