posted July 10, 2000 03:39 PM         

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Ok guys, i met this chick about two weeks ago, we've been out 4 times now. She's probably the sweetest and shyest girl i've ever dated. But she works as a stripper at a local strip club(i didn't meet here there either). It's hard for me to even believe because it just so doesn't match her personality. I know the girl isn't a tramp like everyone likes to think about strippers, Four dates and i haven't gotten hardly any play, very slow and shy girl. Just would like to know what you guys think, do you think it's gonna cause hell with friends and family when they hear of her job, is it worth the hassle to go through with dating this girl, anyone have any experience with dating strippers? Anyways, just curious.

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posted July 10, 2000 03:45 PM            

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All I have to say about strippers is that 90% of them "probably" do a little hoeing on the side when the money is right. Stripping is a gateway into the porn business. All porn stars were ex strippers. If the money is right, do you think your friend would do a John for some extra tax free cash? I wouldn't want to be associated with a girlfriend like that. Rent the movie "The Player's Club" and it will school you on the game.

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posted July 10, 2000 04:12 PM            

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I've 'known' more than one stripper and this probably isn't what you want to hear but strippers MOST (90% or more) of the time don't make good candidates for healthy long lasting relationships. Stripping is the often gateway to stuff like hoing, hard drugs and really hating men amoung other things. If she seems cool, well go for it but be cautious. That job often changes people in bad ways. I've seen it.

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posted July 10, 2000 04:36 PM            

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I have spent a considerable amount of time around and with strippers. I have seen many come into the scene shy and with some morals. Then the partying starts, thousands of asshole guys sour their outlook on life and what the fuck, everybody else is doing blow at work.

I have only seen a few respectable strippers, and they almost always are supporting a child. And chances are they partied their asses off before they got pregnant.

I don't mean this in an absolutely negative sense, stripper are a lot of fun and party their asses off. I just wouldn't date one.

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posted July 10, 2000 04:50 PM            

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every stripper is a stripper because they are carrying some extra baggage, there is always something that either caused to start or why they are still doing it, it will just add up to more problems later, evey guy that has ever gone out with one has either lost his heart, tried to ge ther to stop....but it always ends up being sour, anyway, have fun with her and enjoy her for what she is...

later

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posted July 10, 2000 04:54 PM            

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Bro, this is a story that may change your views. My bro was going to marry a stripper, they had been seeing each other for quiet some time, and dude my other bro's never really saw her because her hours and then we went to the strip club she worked at with a picture of her, heh, first girl to ask my buddy for a dance was low and behold... her. Anyways my buddy ended up banging her in the booth, the wedding was off and that was when I learned it is not cool to date a stripper

Good luck bro (wear a condom)

BUFF

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posted July 10, 2000 04:59 PM         

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It's kind of hard to find respect for them. Just think about when you bring her to your parent's house for dinner the first time and your father asks her what she does. My dad would laugh at me, then hit me, then probably ask me if he could bang her.

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posted July 10, 2000 05:02 PM            

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you know what they say..the shyest always has the most skeletons in theire closet..

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posted July 10, 2000 06:44 PM         

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I guess you guys are probably right, those are the views i've always had of strippers, but this girl doesn't portray all of those qualities, she is in to NO drugs at all, hell she wouldn't even pop a valium at a dance club the other night, and i know from experience and friends that she is not "easy", but i do think she may have some skeletons in the closet, she does have a bad outlook on a lot of men, i guess i'll just get to know her a little better and see what's up. I don't want a serious get married relationship, just a good friend to date and maybe sleep with, but i definitely don't want to be with a HO. Anyways, i'll keep you guys posted.
lata

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posted July 10, 2000 06:48 PM            

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Just so you know,my girlfriend is a dancer(no nudity)I've been with her 4 1/2 years.She started dancing 2 years ago because her friend was and made good money.I don't really want her dancing,but she lost her real job.On a good night she makes $200-300 a night.I don't like the assholes who runs the places.I don't trust the guys that go there.I trusted my girlfriend,but we've been having probelms lately,so i think she'll fuck up.Oh yeah and I'd say about 90% of the girls do drugs its always around.And that girl can't be that shy if she's taking off her clothes.She's carrying alot of shit get out now while you still can.trust me bro.Just being honest.plenty of other girls out there.

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posted July 10, 2000 07:58 PM         

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Sure she's shy, that's why she shows her tits to dozens of strangers every night ... so if she's lying about that, what else is she lying about ...

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posted July 10, 2000 08:17 PM            

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I have had alot of good friends that ended up striping. One of the chicks is even a virgin! None are sluts, they are for the most part pretty smart, and they make hella money.

If you can deal with people looking at your chick once you get to the point you care about her then you got it made. That was always the downfall, it is cool at first but 2 months into it the boyfriends would always try to get the chicks out of the business.

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posted July 10, 2000 08:17 PM            

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I have dated 2 strippers and both have been great girlfriends. They were both homebodies that liked to cook and just chill out. They also liked to go out clubbing but not all the time and neither did drugs or drank. They bought me clothes all the time and they always had tons of cash to spend on me...it was great. I just had to dip elswhere or I would still be with one of them atleast. It's not what they do but who they are.... you can pick up trashy girls everywhere, even the library.

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posted July 10, 2000 10:37 PM            

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DRRMan, my two cents: I have yet to meet a socially, psychologically well structured stripper. The good ones are master manipulators. There professions presents them with many opportunities to better defile and endanger themselves and the people their with. I suggest you not resign yourself to a deep long lasting emotional relationship. Anything else you decide to to, I suggest it involves the incoorporation of latex.
However, dont let my cynical view point overwhelm you. She may be one of those mythical "2percenters" the girl who hates stirpping and is only doing so to facillitate her endeveours in medical school. Or take care of a sick family member.

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posted July 10, 2000 10:57 PM         

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again bros, thanks a ton for the replies, this is why i love this board. She did call me from work tonight!! get that shit, she was wanting to make plans for tomorrow, anyways, im with you guys a long lasting and emotionally attached relationshiop probably isnt a great idea, but i've got to give the girl a try, she seems decent and if i let the stereotypical views of most strippers overwhelm me i'll be just as bad as all those people who would say im a mean ass roid raging meat head who is a dumbass and can only move iron because i juice, ya know
im out

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posted July 10, 2000 11:53 PM            

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If she's getting naked for money she isn't that shy.

Stripper = emotional probs, and cocaine.

Sorry to be a cynic but I'm well acquainted with the culture.

Matt

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posted July 11, 2000 02:06 AM            

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I am gonna have to agree with Matt...I have a few friends who are dancers and THEY ALL DO COKE! Anyone whos degrates themself by taking off their clothes for money isn't respectable in my book. I'd keep a close eye on her if I were you.

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posted July 11, 2000 02:52 AM            

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I dated a few strippers in my day and it is great for a good time and great sex. Most of the strippers were down with 3some action with fellow strippers, and have big fake tits so you gotta love that. But if your looking for a girl to take home to mom, forget it. All I can say is if you keep dating her keep your heart out of it bro, and just have fun. Although there could be exceptions. Good luck!!!

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posted July 11, 2000 04:04 AM            

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hey bro...well you have heard it all so just let me add this little bit of infomation. I bartended and then was a manager at several strip clubs for about 10 yrs. Like many others have said the great majority of strippers have some sort of problem. Many of them have a very sweet side, but they also have a very dark side. It is almost like a split personality in some of them. They are masters of manipulation...that is their business and how they make their money. I have dated many of them and had "serious" relationships with a few. It ALWAYS turned out to be a very fucked up situation. It is obvious from your post that you are already infatuated with this girl, so you are not going to follow anyone's advice and move on. All I can say is good luck and try to keep from getting too emotionally involved.

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posted July 11, 2000 04:54 AM            

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I dated a stripper a few months back and she was the same way. She was really shy, and actually one of the most prude and decent girls I have ever dated. I got shit about her from my friends, but she was worth it. I'm not really sure how things went bad between us, but not all strippers are trash. If I could go back I would definitely go out with her agian, and probably try to make things work out this time.

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posted July 11, 2000 06:48 AM            

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Majority of the answers are negative and they are correct. The negative will significantly outweigh the positive, been there done that, caused family problems as well as alot of second guessing yourself and trust factor is never stable. Dont do it, get some ass somewhere else.

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posted July 11, 2000 09:41 AM         

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again bros, thanks for all of your oppinions. I don't see an emotional attachment building here anyways, im moving back to school in 1.5 months so we probably wont' see each other that much anyways. Im just looking to have a good time, but i don't want to be around all that normal stripper shit, coke free sex, etc. Well, i'll keep you guys posted. Hell, maybe teh sex will be incredible, hopefully, and it WILL involve some serious latex!!
later bros

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posted July 11, 2000 10:28 AM            

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I sold coke. Half my friends were strippers. I would not ever date one now. Not even the shy ones. Not even the bar tenders. I am sure you will find out, and someday share our views.

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posted July 11, 2000 04:09 PM            

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Ok here is my final take, I have met quite a few ex-strippers I would trust and date. Some just have that in their pasts. It still presents a materialistic viewpoint overriding morals kind of attitude though doesn't it?

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posted July 11, 2000 04:22 PM            

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MATT THE SKY WALKER MUST BE BY BORTHER?

He hit the nail on the head. Mental problems(100%) not 99%, 100%. I have dates a couple and did a study of this in school. What a fun study. All most everyone of these mental girls came into the business through drugs or having sometype of emotional problems and the are ALL very SHY when they are not drinking,on drugs, and away from the club!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted July 11, 2000 04:22 PM            

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MATT THE SKY WALKER MUST BE BY BORTHER?

He hit the nail on the head. Mental problems(100%) not 99%, 100%. I have dates a couple and did a study of this in school. What a fun study. All most everyone of these mental girls came into the business through drugs or having sometype of emotional problems and the are ALL very SHY when they are not drinking,on drugs, and away from the club!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted July 11, 2000 05:48 PM            

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DRR - my 2 cents? You take it NICE and slow. Don't let yourself start getting sappy and feeling things. Keep your eyes WIDE open and your heart encased in steel. Then wait and see.

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posted July 12, 2000 12:27 AM            

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i gotta say, i love you guys and this chat room, you all give great advice & are so helpful, but really think you are giving an unfair shake on this one! 90% of strippers do coke??? maybe its just your city, or your way off! first, the love of my life is a dancer. she lives with her mom, doesnt drink, doesnt do drugs, works out every day, doesn't sleep around for money.... she strips cause she makes average $1000 or more a night. who in here wouldn't if you could make that kind of money? second, my best friend is a stripper. lived with her for over a year. made $7000 one weekend working in vegas. she is in school, does party (but no more than me) and has been with one guy for the four years i have known her. through these two i know alot of other strippers, and i would consider at least 25% of them. another 50% i consider friends. judging them for being strippers is no different than people looking at us calling us dumb meathead juice monkeys....

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posted July 12, 2000 12:58 AM            

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I'm not knocking drugs, sex, and money in any way but, in every decision you evey make the benifits must always outweigh the consequences and in this case I think the cards are stacked against you. Many STD's are still uncurable which puts you at an unnecessary risk just for associated with her. I'm from New Orleans and wouldn't even write some of the stuff that I seen go on in strip clubs(not with me of course). Dude anytime there is drugs and sex involved the chance of STD's is like 10X greater than normal. She puts you emotionally, medically, and psycologically at risk. Enough said just don't do it, get out, quick!!

Dude I can't believe you are still reading this call the Chick and dump her , now!!!

You are still there, your not going to dump her.
Hey, it was your life, I was just trying to help.Do what you want because that is what you are going to do anyway.
It never fails, someone goes around asking thousands of people the same question until they get the answer they want to hear and they go with it... If your still reading this you are probably going to end up getting steroids for free to treat your HIV infection. Not knocking people with HIV(I personally think it is a horibble disease and feel dreadfully sorry for everyone that has it). If that is the case keep me in mind, I can always use some cheap gear.

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posted July 12, 2000 12:09 PM         

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check the family history (i.e. wheres daddy at?) on most, i say most strippers, and you will see that most have either been abandoned by a father, or molested at some point by a male
sad but true

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posted July 12, 2000 01:39 PM            

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DO NOT DATE A STRIPPER!!!! I shit you not bro ! I work the tri state area's best Gentlemens club and i've hung out with, and also blasted a few, and they are not down and do not understand our lifestyle(Weight training). Most of the ones i have met have deep rooted mental problems as well as designer drug abusers. But like i said these i my experiences and this is not the only Go-Go bar i have worked at.

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posted July 12, 2000 03:46 PM         

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ok guys, i went out with the chick last night, she seems pretty cool, and i am gonna take it very very slow. I just want someone to hang with and she does not have a bad history so i've heard and her family is still together. I have to somewhat agree with all of you. especially sandiemonkey. If i prejudged her i would be as bad as all the people who would call me a meathead because i juice. And i am not sitting her waiting to hear the answer that i want to hear, i know the deal and how most of you feel, i just wanted some comments and info and i've gotten that, thanks for all the replies--you gotta love this board!!

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posted July 13, 2000 05:15 PM            

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been there, done that. Just don't get all caught up on them. They're great to have "fun" with, plus they buy u things and have many friends u can hook up with.

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posted July 13, 2000 07:10 PM            

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okay, i'm getting my feet wet here with my advice

as i was reading your story and the other comments, what stuck was that she isn't easy

think about it....
she can't afford to be easy, because then she'd prove people's reservations about strippers correct: they're easy

they have to play hard to get if they honestly want a good looking guy or any guy for that matter to take them seriously

not jumping into bed the first couple of months seems to be the only way to set a girl aside from all the others

i'm not a stripper, but i was a single mom for nine years, i had to play hard to get, because i couldn't afford to just fool around even though i would've liked to just go out with my awsome boyfriends and have plain fun, if they were worthwile guys i just didn't fool around, so basically i had to earn their respect because of the choice i made when i was 18

i hear they make good money, so can you blame them for dancing?

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posted July 13, 2000 07:27 PM            

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I've alwayssaid " it's not what you do but how you do it!"

If you like where you are now, go with it. 4 dates is early days .
If you think somthing might eventuate, or if you think you would like it too, treat her with the same respect you would anyone else, regardless of profession. But look out for no.1 don't go in to hard and listen to your instincts. " if the milk turns sour, don't drink it!"

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posted July 13, 2000 07:52 PM            

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DRrman one of the loves of my life was a stripper i have to say she was an exception to the rule though. She basically did it to put heself through school and now she is a very succesful business woman.So what iam saying is there are exceptions to the rule. But for the most part i have to agree with most everyone on the board. My advice take it slow and if you do become close, keep a very close eye on what's going on in her life. GOOD LUCK!

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posted July 15, 2000 02:22 PM            

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Hey bro the best kind of stripper to date is no stripper! Trust the other bros I'm from Vegas and have lived here all my life. I've seen some fucked up shit. I'm sure majority of them go in with good intentions (ie. college and other schools) but they get caught up and get sucked into the lifestyle of drugs, porn and money and then it's hella hard to get out. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule but I wouldn't even want to take a chance. Ask yourself this if you can sit in with her one night and watch her work and still not get pissed after all the lap dances she has given other guys then you have grapefruits cause I couldn't do it.
Sooner or later you're going to want her to get out of it and she might not see the same way you do.

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posted July 16, 2000 01:42 PM            

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The hell with strippers, been there done that. There is always a reason why someone stoops down to stripping, no matter how you are percieving them initially. Millions of girls dont strip, think about it

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posted July 16, 2000 09:45 PM            

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my best friend is a dancer and is one of the nicest, sweetest persons i know. she's the kind of person that has always been there for me and would do almost anything for me. but she has a lot a baggage. i hang out with her and a lot of her friends and get the same feeling of all of them. all like to party, all use drugs, (mostly E and ghb) all of them are cool as hell and have awesome personalitys, but like i said, lots of baggage. i thought about dating one of the girls that seems really well adjusted. ended up that she was as messed up as the others. i guess she was just able to hide it better.

they are a lot of fun. go into it with your eyes open and have fun. nothing wrong with that. most of the girls i know in this scene have been seriouly fucked over by men as some point in their lives.

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