posted July 03, 2000 04:20 PM            

My response - exact words - "E2 will vouch that I am AN ALRIGHT GUY. He has given me advice in the past so he must trust I am at least not a fed."

If this was out of line I apologize. But I don't think it was or would not have said it in the first place. I see no "E2 is my buddy" here.

There is a difference in my eyes between saying someone is my buddy and saying someone trusted me enough to give me advice.

Is this not correct logic?

That is all that was said - You gave me advice. I never NEVER said we talk and are friends. THAT IS BULLSHIT. We have exchanged a few emails and you are smart enough to gather from them that I would never disrepect you like that. You helped me out numerous times so I wouldn't imply anything of the sort. I would never use yours or anyone else's name in sucjh a way unless I had permission.

But I should have known that some of these 16 year old cocksuckers would run to you saying "Spoon said he's your man".

You seem to be a good judge of character so you should know I would never make a stupid and ridiculus statement like that.

But that is the truth. I will email you the exact email this is all about and let you be the judge. And these trouble making fucks can then go to hell.

BTW, I also said "I have dealt with George on a few occassions." Which I have. I had to sign a trademark release form so he's got my real name, addy, etc. And he also put me in touch with guy in his company so they can do my fiance's website like this one - with the UBB. But I guess then that means I said me and George are friends too.

This fuckin board is riddled with children. Jesus Christ!

spoon

posted July 03, 2000 04:29 PM            

At least some adults are on this board.

I'll put my cards on the table because I know I am in the right.

And BTW E2, just for the record, not that it makes a difference, but we didn't just converse threw email twice. You helped me out on several different occassions. I kept all of them stored because they are all good advice that I still use. At last count I had 12 messages from your email addy with the name "__"

And one thing further, you asked me for a return favor for a VERY MINOR piece of information, which I provided for you and you thanked me.

So forgive me for thinking you would at least vouch that I wasn't some asshole off the street.

posted July 03, 2000 05:08 PM            

It's a fuckin shame there are only a handful of real cool people on this board. The rest of the children belong in fuckin Romper Room.

posted July 03, 2000 05:27 PM            

damn. i cant even go to work now without missing out. hmmm....ill have to get a laptop with a satellite hookup.

well ill bump for an end to the disagreement.

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posted July 03, 2000 05:33 PM            

its bro like you and the others above that have kept me here this long. But I am consiidering fucking chuckin this Romper Room for good.

It's too dangerous -- Juice + 18 year old bigmouthed lyers = jail time.

posted July 03, 2000 05:38 PM            

Whoever you are, this was an attack on my integrity. I will not handle it privately because it affects all people on this board that know me.

Let someone call you a lyer out to benefit from someone else's good name and see what it does to your rep.

And what "more stupid shit" are you referring to. Everything I said was done as calmly as I can in this state of mind.

If I could punch thorugh the screen I would have already to get at some of these lying little bastards. But then I'd probably be arrested for beating up school children.

posted July 03, 2000 05:45 PM            

I just want to let you know that i have nothing to do with all this shit going around. I'm just saying that because we chit-chat a little recently and all those replys are just showing me the reputation you have on other bros ! hehehe

posted July 03, 2000 05:45 PM            

Don't know why the chillins are here anyway. We keep telling them to wait till at least 21 but they all think we are screwing them around.

Hey spoon hope you get this cleared up. Good Luck
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posted July 03, 2000 06:28 PM            

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posted July 03, 2000 06:30 PM            

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For every ACTION there is a REACTION !

posted July 03, 2000 06:48 PM            

Somebody who is considered as highly as you are, has no choice. Life is too short for this shit "my friend". As long as spoon's not selling something under your name/rep, what's the big deal?

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that we should all stick together, now more than ever.

Peace and a drunken sexual 4th to all.

posted July 03, 2000 07:03 PM            

And frankly I am a more than a little pissed at you E2 for handling it the way you did.

Listen, I respect you and don't want to lose you as an "advisor" (since I can't call you friend yet), but I will not bow down to you or any man and kiss your ass like some of these punks do.

You were wrong. The evidence is above. All the people that told you that lie were all given the same email as the bros above who have supported me. The same exact one.

You just took others word for it and called me a liar that was basically a total stranger to you. I don't know how you came to that conclusion. You helped me out so many times I offered to send you a free tub of the TT360 I won, which you politely declined. There are some that would feel this is slighlty more than being total strangers.

So the fact remains - I told you the exact words and was man enough to apologize if you felt they were inappropriate.

Now I want an apology from you for:

#1 Slamming my name and rep as a piece of shit and liar based on hearsay bullshit.

#2 Doing it publicly on the board without first emailing me for my story.

#3 Lying yourself in your post to make me look like an idiot --- "We conversed maybe twice"

Bullshit! You told me things that you would have to be an idiot to do if you thought I was a fed or scammer or piece of shit. And on several occassions.

So be a man and apologize. The above shows you were wrong for handling it the way you did.

I still respect you but you slammed my name and now my rep is at stake.

posted July 03, 2000 07:10 PM            

Maybe you don't like me that's why you refused.

posted July 03, 2000 08:08 PM            

Alot of you are new....most have been around....Even George got accused of kicking a certain individual off the board for slander, or some shit....all it accomplished was the get the board in a uproard for a few days, then it blew over...!!

This type misunderstanding would have been best dealt with on a more personal basis...but, we are all Bro's, and should be dedicated to bettering not only ourselves, but this board.....!!!

Bottom line...let's chill out...Spoon, you have your support, as does E2...let's leave it at that....I would concentrate on those who spread the rumors....but, that's just me....you will find however, as this thread grows...so shall the anger!!!

Fuck it Bro's....It's all good...and for a reason!!!

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posted July 03, 2000 10:48 PM            

Spoonman...I don't know you, never heard of you before. Guess you're not that well know after all.

I don't know exactely what has tranpired with you and E2....I don't need all the info. I can tell you that I get atleast 20 mails a day from people looking for the good guys. Whenever I get a mail from someone stating that such and such said "a mod would vouch for him"...I get really pissed off. You must realize that there are more scammers out there than legit sources. ANyone can say that a mod will vouch for him. E2 has to protect his name and this board, as do myself and the others.

So do yourself a favor, if you want to battle with E2, send him an email. I'd rather see the space wasted for these thread being used towards something constructive.

posted July 03, 2000 11:06 PM            

You all know who you are, you read someone's post, and THAT'S IT YOU'VE HAD IT! [hehehe] It may have been mine you phucking finafreaks.

E2 probably has bad/angry days along with everybody here.

But this is not the time for rash reactions among brothers; reading all your posts has helped me RENEW my love for bodybuilding after a few years away, and I'M CONVINCED THAT THIS IS THE TIME TO STICK TOGETHER. PERIOD.

I urge everyone to think about what you are going to say/type, first, before destroying bridges, or even onesided friendships.

Peace and a KICKASS Independence Day to everybody.

posted July 04, 2000 01:25 AM            

Well that's wasn't anywhere in the form email that you sent to a lot of people, it went like this

""Most bros on EF know me. I am a good bro. Ask around about me. I have spoken
with George many times. E2 has trusted me enough to hook me up with some
of his sources just to give you an idea of the friends I made""

"""EF is my home and I have made frineds of many friends there, mods included.""""

If that isn't implying that you and I are friends then i must be really dillusional.

If your upset about the way i handled this, too bad. If someone is going to imply that he and i are friends and try and use my name to gain confidence with others, then i'm going to publicly expose it. I'm not going to beat around the bush about this shit.

And you expect an apology from me???? WTF???

posted July 04, 2000 04:55 AM            

When someone gives me trusted info I consider them a friend. Period.

I know I am not alone in this. In those words you cannot see me attempting to profit from E2's name. It just isn't there.

posted July 04, 2000 11:20 AM            

This implies that E2 is your friend. I am not taking sides but just stating the obvious.

posted July 04, 2000 11:51 AM            

I think all points have been made...no sense in splitting the board up again..

Some mistakes were made..and I think this could be dropped now.

Group hug??..heh..heh..heh..