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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 176) |
posted June 20, 2000 12:24 PM
 
Can't fucking believe it, the Gym that I worked for yesterday got bought out by Worlds today, so now I'm fucking out of a job, and a place to workout, Pisses me off, I only had 2 hours notice. [This message has been edited by Natymike (edited June 20, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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havoc Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 90) |
posted June 20, 2000 12:27 PM
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FlexB Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 351) |
posted June 20, 2000 12:36 PM
How can they fire you with only 2 hours notice? You had to have known your job was in jeapordy if they were bought out by another organization. My gym was bought out by another company and all the employees just stayed there but under new management. They even bought out all the members contracts so we could still work out there under the old contract (with the same monthly membership fees). Did you piss somebody off or something? IP: Logged |
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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 176) |
posted June 20, 2000 12:42 PM
flex--What happened was that I worked the graveyard shift from 10-8, and from what I was told yesterday, they are not going to be a 24 hour gym at the location that I worked at, so they don't need me. I agree that there has to be some compensation for me, There has to be some kind of law against giving me no notice. I'm not sure what happened to the day employees, I'm going up there to raise hell in a couple hours. I called and asked what I need to do to keep my job, and the bitch told me that if I wanted a job, to go fill out an application. I got totally shafted, Does anyone know if there is a Law protecting me in my situation???????? IP: Logged |
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FlexB Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 351) |
posted June 20, 2000 12:53 PM
I think there is. I think it's like at least 2 weeks notice. Didn't they tell you this beforehand that they were not gonna have a graveshift if they got bought out? IP: Logged |
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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 176) |
posted June 20, 2000 12:56 PM
no they didn't tell me shit, Its like it was a big secret, all I know is that I get a call from my manager 2 hours before I'm supposed to go in, and she basically says that I don't have a job. I never pissed anyone off. IP: Logged |
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ralphe Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 158) |
posted June 20, 2000 12:58 PM
I have been through several "buy-outs" and have seen new owners come in and say everything will reamin the same and we are not making any changes "at this time." A couple of weeks later they walk in and let people go....."most" companies give a package to the employee like from 2 weeks to 3 months (have seen this but very few) but I don't believe it is mandatory or law ......sorry for your situation.....they should give you some sort of package... IP: Logged |
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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 176) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:09 PM
yea, the least they can do is give me a free membership, I've been working out for free for about a year now. There's no way I'm going to pay the outrageous fees that I have been charging people. IP: Logged |
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FlexB Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 351) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:17 PM
Natymike: Sorry if I seem like I didn't beleive you. I guess I'm just spoiled because my job is so secured and I just can't accept the fact that someone could just get "fired" like that without any notification (unless you fucked up). I have to realize that not everyone has job security in the real world. I hope you get your problem resolved. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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runner Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 88) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:20 PM
yup, it sucks but i think they do have the power to do that shit to ya'. IP: Logged |
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Bam-Bam Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 170) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:21 PM
A company is legally allowed to fire anyone at any time with no notice. You guys are all for less government control, and then moan when someone exercises their right to hire/fire at will. The exception is if there is a union contract. I'm sure that doesn't apply in this case. Get a skilled job with a contract. Time to grow up, stop complaining. It was a shitty job anyway. IP: Logged |
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Dlady27 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:30 PM
Nat go to your local Labor Relations office in town, there are laws against that type of stuff. If you want you can apply for unemployment, depending on how much you'd get, have the summer off!!!!  But yes, actually the new company is required to either hire you on the day time position or you can collect from the old company! Good Luck! IP: Logged |
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Bam-Bam Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 170) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:37 PM
Dlady- I'm sorry that is false. I own a company and I could just walk out front and fire someone for absolutely no reason. You just can't fire someone for a prejudicial reason, like color, sex, medical condition, etc. But if I decide to make a change I can fire whoever, whenever. IP: Logged |
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Dlady27 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:39 PM
Not the case here in PA , maybe the laws are different here, but something like this happened to a friend and they got their job back! IP: Logged |
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Bam-Bam Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 170) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:42 PM
got their job back, maybe. But his company is no longer in business. The new company has no obligation to him. IP: Logged |
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BigPappa Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 286) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:42 PM
Bam-Bam: what kind of company? IP: Logged |
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Rexie317 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 159) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:46 PM
I don't think they have to give you a warning if they're going to fire you. I think that two week notice is only if you are quitting. You really got shafted, and to add salt on the wound they told you to put in an application if you want your job back. I mean thats just wrong. Look into the laws about how long a notice they have to give you if you're going to be fired. If there are none just blow the place up. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Bam-Bam Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 170) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:47 PM
I'd rather not say at this time. I have people/mod on this board who have stated they are not my friends any more. I guess I asked for it, by saying exactly what is on my mind. Guess I'll have to start editing myself before I speak/type. I will say that it is in the service industry. IP: Logged |
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Dlady27 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:50 PM
If you go tothe labor relations web site under PA law ~ it is required by the employer to give at least ONE WARNING BEFORE TERMINATING THE EMPLOYEE. Not to mention, you are NOT allowed to pay someone a SALARY if they are not supervising at least 2 other employees. Just a piece of info. There are many Labor Relation Laws that people do not know about and until you review them all, you won't know.
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FlexB Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 351) |
posted June 20, 2000 01:59 PM
Bam-Bam: I think the guy does have a right to "complian" if he gets fired without notification! Is he just supposed to just sit back and do nothing about it? I don't think so. Yes....he can pursue other job opportunities, but he should still stir some shit up with the management over that situation. IP: Logged |
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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 176) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:01 PM
keep the opinions coming guys, I'm searching the web on fair labor laws, I'm going up there later today to see what I can do. IP: Logged |
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Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 581) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:08 PM
You can fire anyone for anything at anytime, the only illegal reasons are discrimination related. Companies take every precaution to seem fair when firing employees, not because its a law, but do avoid any possible lawsuits. Bigger companies wouldn't try this without a justifiable reason, just because they know they are possibly opening themselves up to a lawsuit - reguardless if the employee has a GOOD case. Lawyers cost money. I work with a company that I have partial ownership in, we are not huge, but when we let someone go we give them two weeks pay and tell them they don't have to come in ever again. Slopain IP: Logged |
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FlexB Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 351) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:10 PM
I'm gonna ask my boss. She knows about shit like this. I'll get back to you Natty. I do know you can probably get unemployment though. IP: Logged |
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Dlady27 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:16 PM
Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act (WARN) 29 USC �2101 et seq.; 20 CFR 639 Who is Covered Basic Provisions/Requirements IP: Logged |
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ralphe Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 158) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:21 PM
One thing is for sure if you say nothing, then nothing will be done....depends on the new owners if you raise hell they might like that in a person and hire you ....might not...but hey you have nothing to loose at this point....and I am hate it when anyone looses their job unless for a just cause..good luck.......usually things like this help people find better jobs or careers anyway.......take care IP: Logged |
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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 176) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:21 PM
nice post Dlady, but I think I'm fucked, I've only worked there for about 5 months. Am I right??? IP: Logged |
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Bam-Bam Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 170) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:25 PM
Nice post-proves my point. No way his gym has 100 employees. Small business owners have more freedom in hiring/firing. IP: Logged |
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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 176) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:27 PM
yea, I seriously doubt they have 100 employees probably no more than 40, oh well, looks like I'm fucked, thanks for all the help guys. IP: Logged |
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DLbro Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 8) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:29 PM
Bam Bam and Slopain hit the nail right on the head! (ouch!!) but anyway they are mostly right. Most states are "at will" states, meaning you can fire anybody anytime you want to for whatever rason you want as long as its not discriminatory in nature. You know, shit like age, race, national origin, handicap, disability, religion, sexual orientation. You can even fire persons in those listed groups if they fucking up on the job. Some states are "right to work" states. If you live in a right to work state, then you may have greater protection. Better check with your state department of labor to find out what kinda state you live in. Mostly, it's the heavy unionized (industrialized) states that are "right to work". Just go and check it out to see. In the meantime, go ahead and put that application in. Don't be offended, Hell, you might get the job. They may just be testing to see what kind of initiative you have. Give it a shot. what could it hurt besides your pride? Good luck. IP: Logged |
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Dlady27 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:36 PM
that was PA state law everywhere is different ! GO ahead give up just like that and I will call you a LOSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!!! NAt, check your laws go to the office you stump. IP: Logged |
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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 176) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:40 PM
Ok, I thought that was a National law. IP: Logged |
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pizza man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 157) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:44 PM
natymike email me if you live close to dallas or plano and want to stay in gym business. Pat IP: Logged |
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FlexB Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 351) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:44 PM
Labor laws are mandated by the state. IP: Logged |
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Dlady27 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted June 20, 2000 02:48 PM
Boy, I am starting to learn that "back in the day" people always said, the muscle bound men were dumb. ummm, I am gradually seeing their point. heehee. j/k IP: Logged |
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FlexB Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 351) |
posted June 20, 2000 03:03 PM
That was mean Dlady!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 348) |
posted June 20, 2000 03:31 PM
Every state is different- if your in a right to work state your screwed. Call fare labor relations - they can tell you the beef, if you have one and will represent you if needed. IP: Logged |
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Dlady27 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted June 20, 2000 03:32 PM
which part Flexb? heeheeheeheeheeheeheehee :P IP: Logged |
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NoviceJuicer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 198) |
posted June 20, 2000 04:58 PM
Never underestimate the power of the bluff (when you have nothing to lose). "Look...I just got done talking to an attorney my parents are paying for and the state labor relations dept. I have a pretty good case they said, but I hate having my parents pay to bail me out. They say they will go all guns forward, especially if there is a good chance the attorney will win a pretty hefty compensation when all is said and done - but still since I can't pay the attorney I hate to have my parents pay. Sure they will get their money back ...but only after it drags through court and that can take a long time. They still have to come up with some money up front for the attorney to take the case. I don't think either you nor I want to do that...you know 18 month battle in court, lost of attorney depositions,...just for me to end up with maybe 30 or 40 grand. SO why don't we just come to some sort of agreement out of court?" Have some friend send a letter on fake stationary or make a call as an attorney requesting your work record information - or hell, just pay some attorney who does not have a big ad (the guy who can only afford to have his name listed in the yellow pages) $25 to send the letter. When you have nothing to lose a bluff can sometimes win big. IP: Logged |
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blackhaus1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 534) |
posted June 20, 2000 07:21 PM
NatyMike, Theres usually a thing at the end of the application that you filled out that says your employment there is subject to their terms and you can be dismissed at anytime..Am i the only one who has seen these?? You may be able to collect unemployment but that depends on if you were on the books (AKA paying taxes), and the length of time that you worked there...I don't know if 5 months is long enough...contact your state labor department... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Natymike Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 176) |
posted June 20, 2000 07:43 PM
I'm going to go ahead and try to get my job back under the other company by filling out an application, My "former" manager claimed that I have a better chance than the average Joe. I'll see what happeneds, I'll keep you guys posted, thanks for all the help. IP: Logged |
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