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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
ok it seems to me with every additional cycle my acne gets a little worse, its not bad, but I don't like were its heading...please dont mention Retin-A,Azelex,Differin, tanning beds, or Neutrogena I am familiar with all these. My question is I heard Accutane dries the shit out of you how bad is it? Any other sides I should be aware of? need some 411

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Natymike
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posted June 13, 2000 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
Bro, Accutain is rough, I took 2 cycles of it in High school, everything dried out, I had to wear sunscreen outdoors, had to use eyedrops all the time, I got nose bleeds, and your lips are CONSTANTLY chapped. You can't mix alcohol with it,(but I did), Its really tough on the liver, people on accutane get their liver checked once a month to make sure that everything is fine. I would NOT recommend taking it, and sure as hell would say NOT WITH ROIDS TOO!!

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
dissapointing, even your eyes dry out?? any one else know anything?

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Natymike
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posted June 13, 2000 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
oh and also, its not like you just take a couple of pills and you clear up, you have to take 2 pills a day for 5! months, or the shit won't work right.

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
yeah I knew that, I also heard that in many cases even after you stop taking them the acne is a lot better, has this been true in your case?

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Natymike
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posted June 13, 2000 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
The first time I took it, I was a Soph in HS, and my face was clear for about 6 months afterwards, then it came back worse than before, so I took it again, and I haven't had acne since--about 3 years. I remember the doc telling me that you only need to use it once, and only about 20% "just guessing" of people need to take it twice. But my brother took the shit 3 fucking times. I guess different people get different results, I had a friend who took it about the same time I did, and he only needed it once, and his shit was ALOT worse than mine.---and about the eyes--I only had to use drops about once a week when they got irritated. Only had nose bleeds about once every couple of weeks, but my friend had them about every day. The most common side effect is the chapped lips, I had to use chapstick about every 30 mintues, no shit. About the sunburn---I'm fair skinned, so I needed the shit pretty much whenever I left the house, but if your a normal skin tone, you would definatley need it if you were going to spend several hours in the sun. Also I just remembered that for some people it turns your face red. I remember this one bitches face was brutal, looked like she had a bad sunburn every single day. -----But the shit does work, it is definateley the strongest acne shit around. If you really have it bad, then accutane may be the answer, but I wouldn't mix it with roids, thats has to be way too toxic on the liver.

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
Good f'n info mike. I don't have it bad, but it really sucks that when I come off a cycle when Im trying to look the best, there is some naggin acne never during but always after Im done. The last thing I need is to get a nose bleed when Im blowing up though might as well have a sign on my head that says steriod user. Are these sides common or what, what is the chance that I take it get some chapped lips and have cotton mouth once in a while? or is it guarteed to get all those shitty sides? Thanks for the help here brutha.

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Natymike
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posted June 13, 2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
no prob on the help, about the sides, there is really no way in telling if you will get them or not. Now that I think about it, I probably only had about 3 nose bleeds in the 5 months, but my friend had alot of them, I remember he would have a tissue crammed in his nostrle during class. One side that I can guarantee is the chapped lips, its just really annoying to put on chapstick 24/7. If you don't have it that bad, then its probably not worth all the trouble. I remember a phamplet that the doc gave me before I took it, his words were "you think you have bad acne?" Bro, I could not believe how bad some people had it, I'm talking like a quarter sized lumps on their face, and their backs were just totally covered with dark red cysts. It was so disgusting. If you don't have it that bad, than its probably not worth the trouble. Also, I remember that your acne actually gets worse for the first month of taking it,(just remembered that), but then around the 2nd and 3rd month, everything dries up and you acne just goes away. I remember that my shit was all gone after the 4th month, but the doc said I still had to finish taking it, or it would just come back. So I'm assuming if some people complain that it gets worse after they take it, then its during their first month, thats normal for everyone who takes it.

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Natymike
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posted June 13, 2000 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
also, I think dandruff may be a side effect because of the dry scalp, but that never happened to me or anyone I knew, it just seems like it might happen.

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
WTF is up with these prescription meds? It gets worse at first, I hadn't heard that kinda sucks but I guess maybe worth it in the long run if it clears it all up for good.

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Wood_Rooster
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posted June 13, 2000 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wood_Rooster   Click Here to Email Wood_Rooster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 72220411
I can only tell you what I have experienced so far. I am on the third month of use and this is the first time I have taken it.

My acne was not too bad before either.

I have had chapped lips but not bad. No other sides except when I traveled to NM and AZ where the weather was dry (my eyes got a little irritated and skin became somewhat dry).

The pores on my nose, face, neck and back have gotten much smaller. I used to get little acne "sweat bumps" on my forehead and they are GONE and once they left, have not come back (not even one).

The frequency and severity of acne on my chin and neck have been reduced drastically but I still get a zit once every two weeks (hoping this goes away in the last two months).

Personally, I am waiting until I get off Accutane before I start my cycle (E2 power cycle!) since Accutane screws with your liver's enzyme levels.

Hope this helps.

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Natymike
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posted June 13, 2000 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
yea, its DEFINATELY better in the long run, its basically supposed to clear your acne for life, its just the process that sucks. You need to ask a doc what would happen if you mixed it with roids, I wouldn't want your liver to explode.

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carlman
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posted June 13, 2000 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carlman     Edit/Delete Message
I loved accutane--works great. If you want to use AS long term then keep with smaller dosages of accutane. Somebody mentioned dandruff--this stuff will clear that up too in the long run!

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gearseeker
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posted June 13, 2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearseeker   Click Here to Email gearseeker     Edit/Delete Message
Hey bro,

I just finished 5 months on Accutane. I used anadrol and oral winstrol during the treatment (and lots of injectables). I used milk thistle and kept my liver values just above normal range. This was on 150mg anadrol per day and 80mg accutane per day. I realize I have a tough liver but my doctor explained that accutane is less toxic than Vit. A if used correctly.

As far as dry skin: I took 1600iu of Vit. E per day and lots of Carmex on the lips. I didnt have any problems but you do notice the difference in skin dryness. Dont go anywhere without your Carmex. Also - you can put a humidifier in your bedroom at night. It helps.

I used accutane throughout my precontest training which included 30min of tanning every day. Be careful. You will be more sensitive to light so start with less exposure time.

Email me if you need more info.

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
Wood Rooster,
would you consider your acne mild,medium,or severe?

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
You too gearseeker mild to severe? I think it might be worth it for me...I love this info guys this is the stuff that really helps out.

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Natymike
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posted June 13, 2000 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
check your e-mail Slo.

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
natymike: checked.

Bump one time for anyone else's info.

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blackhaus1
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posted June 13, 2000 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackhaus1   Click Here to Email blackhaus1     Edit/Delete Message
Well I hope this helps...My ex took accutane while on a cycle b/c thats the only time he got acne. He was on a primo-winny cycle and he never got any zits. His skin was very very dry and no matter how much chap stick you use, it can't help those lips! If your acne is very bad, I would recommend it. Otherwise, its not worth the $, the monthly liver tests, and the dryness.

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
What if I can get insurance to pay for it? Im sorry but acne is the only really bad side I get, well other than sleeplessness and some minor irritation at fuckhead drivers, but I figure it wouldnt be too bad to suffer a little for 4-6 months for a little insurance on the many cycles to come.
As for the liver tests, I would like to see how the little guy is doing (winny/beer=bad combo) Thanks Blackhaus1, for the info.

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Theron
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posted June 13, 2000 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Theron   Click Here to Email Theron     Edit/Delete Message
Acne is hard to get rid of but keep trying.I know that I suffered from it too.

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Natymike
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posted June 13, 2000 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natymike     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Theron I thought I told you to fuck off

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
thank you bitch for another space wasting post.

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blackhaus1
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posted June 13, 2000 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blackhaus1   Click Here to Email blackhaus1     Edit/Delete Message
Slopain, heres some more info for you, hope this helps: Accutane

I. Definition:

Isotretinoin (trade name: Accutane) is a powerful drug used in the treatment of acne. Four to five months of isotretinoin treatment usually leads to clearing of acne for one year or more after the medicine is stopped. Most other acne-controlling medicines are antibacterial agents, which are effective only if the medicine is used daily.

II. Side Effects:

Why shouldn't all acne patients take isotretinoin? Isotretinoin has significant side effects:

Side Effects: Frequency:

Chapped lips 90%
Dry skin and itching 80% - the use of daily alpha hydroxacids will help prevent this side effect.
Dryness of nose, mild nosebleed 80%
Irritation of the eyelids and eyes 40% - Vitamin E 400 IU each day may lessen this side effect.
Joint and muscle pains 15%
Temporary hair thinning 10%
Rash 7%
Intestinal symptoms 5%
Urinary symptoms 5%
Headache 5%
Increased sensitivity to sunburn 5% - the use of daily sunscreen will help prevent this side effect.
Decreased night vision <1%
Depression, thoughts of suicide <1%
Isotretinoin may increase the level of blood fats, sometimes to risky levels. Occasionally it may affect the liver. That's why regular blood tests are necessary when you are taking isotretinoin; these tests must be done when you have fasted for 12 hours (no breakfast), so that the blood fat determinations are reliable. A baseline blood chemistry test is established before patients start isotretinoin.

The most damaging side effect of isotretinoin is serious birth defects if taken during pregnancy.

It is critically important for women not to take isotretinoin while pregnant, and not to become pregnant while taking it. Women who are, or expect to be, sexually active while taking isotretinoin must use an effective method of birth control. This usually means oral contraceptive pills and one other additional method of birth control such as a condoms for the male partner. A woman who does get pregnant while on isotretinoin must be prepared to have an abortion and must state this in writing before many physicians will prescribe isotretinoin for her.

A women who has taken Accutane should not get pregnant until one month after stopping the medication. After that time, it's safe to become pregnant. Because the birth defects caused by isotretinoin are so serious, it's important not to share the pills with others.

We don't know whether isotretinoin taken by men can cause birth defects, so it's best not to get a woman pregnant while taking isotretinoin. If she is not using birth control, the man should use a condom.

There are a few reports of patients having decreased night vision after using Accutane. One patient still had problems six months after the drug was stopped. If you experience trouble with your vision while on Accutane, call the office right away.

Some people develop headaches while on Accutane. If you develop a persistent headache while on Accutane, call your physician right away. A persistent headache, which will not go away while on Accutane, can be dangerous and you should stop the medication.

Accutane rarely causes depression and thoughts of suicide. If this were to occur stop the medicine immediately and call your physician.

III. How does isotretinoin work?

Isotretinoin decreases the amount of oil produced by the skin's sebaceous (oil) glands. It may be as long as two months before you see improvement in your skin. There's no medicine we can add to speed up isotretinoin's action. In fact, sometimes acne gets worse during the first month or so of treatment. Side effects, such as lip dryness, begin before the acne starts to clear.

IV. How To Use Isotretinoin:

Take the medicine with food, you can take the entire daily dose with supper, this increases the absorption of the medicine.

V. Long-term Results:

Isotretinoin isn't a permanent cure for acne, although it often buys time until nature clears your skin. Your skin may stay clear for months, even years, after isotretinoin is stopped.

In about one person in 10, acne comes back after one year. About one person in four has acne again after two years. If your acne returns, antibiotics may work, or you may be treated with isotretinoin again.

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joker
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posted June 13, 2000 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joker   Click Here to Email joker     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8732220
Did accutane four years ago. Worked great. Lips dried out, but get some carmex and your fine. All pimples vanished around 2nd month. Stayed on for 5 months. Very few pimples since, now on cycle have and have had about 10 or 20 small ones on shoulders, no biggie. You'll be happy with the results.

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Slopain
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posted June 13, 2000 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
Im on this one. Need to go see my doc and get insurance to take care of it though. But from what I have read and personal accts. I think its worth it.

Slopain

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