posted May 26, 2000 09:07 AM            

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I was going to post this in the Supplements board...but it really isn't one, so the C & C gets it.
For any of you who use them...which sleep-aid do you find works best at giving a GOOD nights sleep but doesn't make you feel like you are walking around in a cloud the following day?

PT.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a
boat and drink beer all day.

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posted May 26, 2000 10:46 AM         

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The herb Valerian is good for insomnia. I suggest it every time but I don't know if anybody listens. I don't do drugs unless I have to.

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posted May 26, 2000 11:05 AM            

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I am going on this Camporee with my son this weekend. Beavers, Cubs and Scouts and I know if I don't take something I won't get any sleep. I love camping, but I like Dark and Quiet for sleeping and with 1200 people and sunrise at 5:30 .... it ain't going to happen without help.
Correct me, but aren't herbals more of a relaxant than a sleep-aid?

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posted May 26, 2000 11:29 AM            

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Ambilin 10 mg maybe 15 mg max, I knocks me out without being groggy in the morning, I do wake up at night, that's when I take the other 5 mg and ten to twenty minutes later I out for the rest of the night. LOL

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posted May 26, 2000 12:00 PM            

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melatonin 3 work pretty good for me.I need help myself laying down and staying down especially after being on a E/C/A STACK.KAVA- KAVA is good too,it's a bitch gettin up in the A.M.

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posted May 26, 2000 05:28 PM            

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I've tried 'em all, OTC, herbs and prescription shit. Since my wife doesn't like me taking prescription meds for insomnia, I usually take two tylenol PM and I manage about 7-8 hours of decent sleep and don't feel any ill effects in the AM.

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posted May 27, 2000 01:33 AM            

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most herbal and OTC (diphenhydramine) will exhibit long acting effects causing the dreaded "hangover effect" we dont want. Again, i recommend the legend drug (s) Ambien, Restoril, Sonata for excellent quality sleep. They are relatively short acting without longlived metabolites. They do not hinder REM sleep making you feel "rested the next day" These agents should only be used short term due to "dependence" associated with these agents. There are others such as Trazadone but I would stay away from any of these "psychotropics" for sleep use. The side effects we do not want.

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posted May 27, 2000 01:36 AM            

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Melatonin works for me and I'm not groggy the next day. I use 3mgs but have experimented with up to 15 or 20 with no side affects.

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posted May 27, 2000 01:49 AM            

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Go see your doctor & tell him your going on a
trip for a week or so & that you always have
trouble sleeping in strange suroundings &
that you would like a rx for Ambien 10mg.
Thats what I do before I go on a trip everytime.

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posted May 27, 2000 11:56 AM            

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I smoke a joint when the e/c/a stack stops me from falling asleep.

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posted May 28, 2000 02:43 PM            

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L-Tryptophan, or 5-HTP...

You might wake up stiff because of the "depth" of sleep you achieve, but, you won't have any hangover.

Puc

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posted May 30, 2000 08:58 PM            

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Man if you can find it, stuff called Renewtrient or G3. it is a Furanone product that will turn to GHB

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