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jackfrost
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posted May 22, 2000 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackfrost   Click Here to Email jackfrost     Edit/Delete Message
Last year I went on a lengthy trip to Europe to visit family and friends. During my travels I had the opportunity to speak with many people about health related topics. I've always been interested in how other societies view exercise, health and eating habits. By an over whelming majority, the consensus among those with whom I spoke was that Americans are fat, lazy, loud mouths. I was the obvious exception to their conclusion however. To be quite honest, I wasn't prepared for the response I got. Additionally, the foreign press doesn't exactly puff up the American life style. My friends most of whom were in England were convinced that the average American consumes several Big Macs a week. I would love to know how this misconception festered to this point?

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macrophage69alpha
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posted May 22, 2000 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for macrophage69alpha   Click Here to Email macrophage69alpha     Edit/Delete Message
I hate to say it but a LOT of americans are extremely fat. Several big Mac's a week does not seem to be an underestimation- McDonalds does not seem to hurt for lack of business. However, we are the "fittest" fat people on the earth. Do you know how hard it is to find a gym overseas? finding a good one is almost impossible- at least that was the state of things a couple of years ago.

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Vitaman
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posted May 22, 2000 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitaman   Click Here to Email Vitaman     Edit/Delete Message
I resent that, especially since I prefer the Whopper over the Big Mac. I am guessing that since we are doing so well economically that this help fosters the idea of wealth and laziness. Let's face it, many americans eating habits are bad due to time constraints or laziness. However, to say we all are fat and unfit is unfair statement. I hope you were able say that every country has its fair share of dead weight. I am also guessing that you witness some of their larger members of society out in public. This gave you a chance to see that they too have fat and unfit people.

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BackDoc
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posted May 22, 2000 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
I've been to Europe, including England. I've gotten the impression that most Europeans don't much like Americans in general. In many places, there are lots of restaurants and establishments that are based on American influence. I wonder if since we are the often tourists in other countries that they have a disdained view of our citizens. Unfortunately, telecommunications present views that are often reflected in the words of a nation's citizens. Unless they've been to America and witnessed our country for their own eyes, then they're just reiterating the rumor of whatever media venue gave them that idea. I didn't see many massive monsters or fitness physiques where I went...and I've been to many countries. Englanders seemed to me to be on average, much shorter than we are here. Besides, I remember thinking that all Europeans were small until I went to Germany, where I did see other people who were comparable to my size.

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moe dank
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posted May 22, 2000 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
you should know quite well the ignorance of media backdoc. after that post about pit bulls it was made clear you believe everything you read and hear and thus base your life opinions on such.

No offense to the vets out there, but america is a shit hole i am embarrassed to live in. I am moving soon, but sometimes my days here drag out and i think I might not ever feel what it is like to live in a free country.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted May 22, 2000 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Moe,

I'm a veteran and I'm not offended.

A lot of shit sucks about this country, it's just that a lot of shit sucks almost everywhere. I hope you find a better deal for yourself though if that's what you want - I've been to a few countries in Europe and I wasn't exactly blown away...

but I wish you luck.

Where are you headed anyway?

Matt

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jackfrost
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posted May 22, 2000 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackfrost   Click Here to Email jackfrost     Edit/Delete Message
Everyones points are well taken. I did see the fat slobs of those other countries, but on the whole they certainly weren't the majority. I agree that finding a decent gym over there is tough. I did take advantage of the opportunity to explain away some of their misconceptions. I think one our biggest foes is the FDA. The classic food food pyramid is way off and Americans have been buying that shit for years. Oh well, just my .02.

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moe dank
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posted May 22, 2000 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
Matt

I am going to try amsterdam for a year. I have been there, but only on vacation. Just to much to see in a couple weeks.

From there it is to adelaide, south australia. Maybe darwin, in the norther territory. that is where i want to grow old and die. Same problems every where you go pretty much. Just gotta find a place that makes you happy and deal with it i guess.

later bro

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"you get what you settle for and i will settle for a benz S500" poppa smurf

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BackDoc
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posted May 22, 2000 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
I don't want to shift the topic, but Moe how do you know I based my pit bull opinion on the media? That's an assumption. The actuality is that I once had neighbors who raised pitbulls. I have also had interactions with people who have had bad experiences with them. I'm basing my "life opinions" on what I've seen, in this case. So I think it's an error to automatically assume that what I'm saying is based on what media has reported.

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MrMuscle
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posted May 23, 2000 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
well, im a european, and i might have a twisted view on americans. or should i say californians, if i do one thing before i die, it will be to visit calif. and take astroll on venice beach, check out the gyms..and so on...
Yeah i see alot of fat chicks on Ricki Lake and that kinda shit..and to me it DOES look like there is alot of obese people over there...but not in Venice

Yeah, i know..dont say it

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thiassi
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posted May 23, 2000 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think you would like venice beach that much. There is an outside weight area but there is only a few people there most of the time. Then there are the cool inline dance scate people. There are a group of about 30 black men in riot gear with banners that the white man is the devil and to rise up and kill all the white people etc... actualy they told this mixed girl that she needed to go home and kill her parents. Then there are the people selling all kinds of crap on the sidewalk. You can watch a great game of basketball. It is fun, but nothing like I thought it would be.

L8R

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MrMuscle
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posted May 23, 2000 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MrMuscle   Click Here to Email MrMuscle     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70512967
hehe well i wont be spending much time outdoors anyway..ill be pumping it up at World Gym or Gold

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moe dank
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posted May 23, 2000 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
Sure you did backdoc. Every thing you said in that post was media hype. No truth at all. Not good with kids! show me a pit that was raised as a dog not a monster that doesnt love the shit out of kids.

Trun on their owners! Not once have i seen or heard of this happening. Now could some white trash bastard have beaten his dog to the point the dog finally said fuck it. Sure, i wouldnt expect anything less from a pitt.

Point is you are a lying sob bro. You know good and damn well you prob. have never even had any interaction with the breed. Keep spreading the media hype.

People like you are what is running this country in the ground. Keep it up, your doing a good job.

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"you get what you settle for and i will settle for a benz S500" poppa smurf

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XXXL
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posted May 23, 2000 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for XXXL   Click Here to Email XXXL     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39468048
as on 1998 americans ranked:

#1 in productivity in the world, have the longest average work day, have the longest average work week, and sadly we only average 4th in pay.

we are the world power economicly, socialy, and militarily for a reason. we bust our asses.

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Karate guy
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posted May 23, 2000 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
OHHHH man, gotta take a whiz, wait a minute while I lift my stomach up so I don't urinate on myself. Phew. OK, now I'm back.
I just got back from McDonalds and got the special 2 big macs for 99cents, plus my fries, shake, and desert. MM good, now its time for some ice cream and watchin a movie while I fart on the couch. AHHH. What a country. Now seriously! Thats probably how some of the westernized countries look at us Americans. What a shame. Yeah, alot blows about the US but still alot doesn't too. You don't see nearly as many people leaving the US as those coming here to start a new life. What about that? As far as people broad brushing all Americans as fat and lazy. Well, ignorance is the child of stupidity.

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BackDoc
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posted May 23, 2000 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
Moe, I'm not even going to dignify that with a response. Only suffice to say that you're making a lot of assumptions that you cannot possibly know. And as I mentioned in the post regarding dogs, respect me by not resorting to name calling. I don't do that to you, so don't do that to me. You think I'm a liar, fine. I don't mind being called that---if I did then there might be some cause for suspicion on your part. But I don't like being called names or even referred to in such a manner---this makes a second time that you've made reference to my mother and I don't appreciate that.

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Gtn-Big2
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posted May 23, 2000 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gtn-Big2   Click Here to Email Gtn-Big2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 55151929
Seems I always fall for these sucker threads....so, here we go again!

What country comes running with no questions asked when some other wanna-be third world country gets into some shit with either another 3rd rate country or themselves??? Answer...Us fat ass Americans! Every damn time!!

Sure this country has problems, so does every other country. And if they didn't, then why do we end up getting our borders flooded with so many foreigners seeking citizenship??

For all of you out there who talk shit about 'my' country I hope you get the fuck out of it or never visit/move here!!

Now I feel better, so let the flaming begin!!!!!

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moe dank
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posted May 23, 2000 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
backdoc, "i know a mother fuckin big foot when i see one." e. murphy in raw.

I think we both know what the deal is here. Assume no, edjucated guess, yes. Every thing you said in that post were not characteristics of the breed.

As far as what your next door neighbor had, my next door neighbor had a crack house, but that doesnt mean i know shit about that.

You want the best damn dog walking the face of the planet, get a pit. Until you have owned one yourself you should keep your mouth shut on the issue.

Dont take offense bro, I just draw the line at people talking shit about pits that havent even ever had one.

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"you get what you settle for and i will settle for a benz S500" poppa smurf

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BackDoc
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posted May 23, 2000 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
If that's the most respectful and professional comment you're willing to give then I'll make it a point to not respond to anymore of them. I'm not taking any offense because I'm not guilty of anything you've accused me of, but I'm not going to trade comments any longer. Just based on what I know so far, it seems from these and other posts that you're here to offend, not to share ideas and I've got no room for negativity. Goodbye.

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jackfrost
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posted May 25, 2000 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jackfrost   Click Here to Email jackfrost     Edit/Delete Message
Hey XXL and getnbig obviously you need to reread my post. I was merely relaying my experiences from abroad. I wasn't bashing the US, nor were the people with whom I spoke about the subject.

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Rock_Man
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posted May 25, 2000 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rock_Man   Click Here to Email Rock_Man     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8696614
Well, I can say this. No matter where you go or who you see, there is always diversity.

We may live in different parts of the world, but we are all human. We are raised with certain beliefs and understanding.

We may be the country that has founded the Big Mac, but that's because this country was based on people making thier american dream, which allowed freedom to create that business and somone did.

Let's talk about the western countries that are getting these Mc Donalds and TGI Fridays, (I reference these two, because I know people who worked there)They make more business there in a day than they do here.

What it all comes down to is that if it is there, whether it is food, laziness, fitness or ignorance, people will choose a road, no matter what part of the world you live in.

I know many foreign friends that when we first met they thought that we were all the same. Meaning like the people they see on Ricki Lake and Jerry Springer.

Those are the shows they air about us Americans in other countries and I can say that it is not an objective or even real look at us. That shit is all made up, pre-planned and fake. (It's showbusiness people not real life)

Get to know somone no matter where they are from. Then make your opinion about that person period! Things will look a bit better from that point of view.

My 2 cents....

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joker
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posted May 25, 2000 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joker   Click Here to Email joker     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8732220
Well with an ambassador like ricky lake and the trash she has on her show it's easy to see why people would think we are fat and lazy and loud mouths....

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skydancer
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posted May 25, 2000 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skydancer   Click Here to Email skydancer     Edit/Delete Message
ditto joker...

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denmaur
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posted May 25, 2000 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denmaur   Click Here to Email denmaur     Edit/Delete Message
Ricki Lake and Jerry Spinger offer a poor view of American for the rest of the world. Talk about trash.

But it's a fact that a large % of Americans are seriously overweight. I think its around 35% of adults. And the number is growing. So it's not a misconception, it's the truth. Look at the garbage that most of us shove in our faces. McDonalds, Burger King, Pizza, Taco Bell, KFC, Coke, Pepsi, chilli cheese fries, etc. It really amazes me that so many people here eat so much garage. Compound that with the fact that most of us don't eat the good things like fruit and vegs. And so many Americans don't exercise. Lot's of us ARE out of shape, overweight, slobs.

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skydancer
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posted May 25, 2000 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skydancer   Click Here to Email skydancer     Edit/Delete Message
ditto again denmaur - I read one article that placed obese americans at 45% of the population now. How sad is that?

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Karate guy
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posted May 25, 2000 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, I heard Burger King was havin a special. LOL

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