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E2
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posted May 19, 2000 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Ok, i've never taken drugs, any drugs at all except hormones. Well ghb doens't count. So i've been reading about xtc and i'm interested, now what i'm wondering is how would it affect my cycle and would it make my heart rate go nuts.

In case you dont' know i'm on 1000mg sust 400mg deca and 10/dbol.day right now. With the weight i've put on and the dbol popping my bp to the roof, i'm panting like a dog to breathe. So will the xtc fuck me up, will it raise my heart rate? My bp?? Make me have even more trouble breathing? I don't want to do those things.

thanks guys!!

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Fish
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posted May 19, 2000 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish   Click Here to Email Fish     Edit/Delete Message
Well I am not an AS expert, but as for X I am well informed. It will raise your blood pressure. It is a speed of sorts. You will sweat like a motherfucker too. Drink the shit out of some water. If you are big, take two or three pills. And don't take any with brown flecks in them, those could be mixed with heroin. This is a common practise, due to H being much cheaper for the bang. Questions email me.

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THE STEEL BEAST
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posted May 19, 2000 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE STEEL BEAST   Click Here to Email THE STEEL BEAST     Edit/Delete Message
NO E2 DONT DO IT. YOUR A ROLE MODEL TO MANY ON HERE...DONT BECOME ONE OF THE DRUGGIE SCHMUCKS....SAY FUCK IT AND HAVE SOME GOOD SEX INSTEAD...THAT BEATS ANY KINDA OF CHEMICAL SHIT.

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easton
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posted May 19, 2000 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for easton   Click Here to Email easton     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 28380265
from what ive heard, xtc is alot like acid, but with a speedy twist...and ive heard of people taking acid and having heart attacks, although ive taken a shitload of acid and never had a problem...but i think you are in for a big suprise if youve never done any drugs before, so what i would reccomend is to get some psilocybin mushrooms first, take those, and see if you enjoy being disorientated for hours at a time...some people just cannot handle the total loss of control for that long a time, with your BP mushrooms are much much safer than a man made speedy haluccinagenic drug...besides, i think everybody should try mushrooms, its quite an experience...why do you want to do xtc? just for the sex? cuz if you have a BP problem then you take a form of speed, and then have good sex, boy i wouldnt make any bets on wether youll be ok...it all depends on your reasons, but like i said, if xtc is like acid, you might want to experiment with the lighter hallucagenics first...just like with steroids, the 'virgins' dont want to take the hard core juice to start with

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posted May 19, 2000 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
Hey big E, you talkin MDMA type stuff? I'm shocked!LOL, If you have a good source you can get it in powdered form and buy it by the gram. Strong shit though. Depends where your head is at, I did some potent shit once and I still remember it and that was over 10 yrs ago. The shit they have goin around today is so diluted its a rip off.

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E2
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posted May 19, 2000 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Steel you know i've been pondering this a lot, what to do. I've never taken any drugs and i often find myself wondering about it. But do i want to do that to my body??? I know it take juice and i do it to make my body better and i try as hard as i can to take care of my body. Drugs like xtc do nothing but harm to your body, right??


Do i want to take drugs?? Do i want to do that to this machine that i've spend so much time building? I dont' know, i still sit here and think about it.

I hear about how it feels and how incredible it is, and i'll have to say it's very tempting. I can't imagine what it must be like, it's like trying to explain making love to someone who's never had the oportunity to be with someone they truly love.

But what comes with that, knowing that i'll be then a druggie? Nope, i'm already a druggie, i take hormones! They are after all drugs.

Mmmmm, i don't know, i'm going to have to think about this a lot more. it may seem like no big deal to many of you, but in my eyes it's an big decision.

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Fish
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posted May 19, 2000 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish   Click Here to Email Fish     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with the comment "DONT BECOME ONE OF THE DRUGGIE SCHMUCKS". But I hardly think you will be a "DRUGGIE SCHMUCK" after one night of rolling. After all do you feel like a "RAGING DUMBASS" now? I am sure you know how not to abuse something. If I am wrong and you are addictive, like I am, don't try it. It lead to harder things for me, and that was a waste of a good part of my life. If you are like me, stay clean it is easyer than getting clean.

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THE STEEL BEAST
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posted May 19, 2000 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE STEEL BEAST   Click Here to Email THE STEEL BEAST     Edit/Delete Message
KEEP THE MACHINE WELL OILED AND READY FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE.DONT FUCK AROUND WITH ANY FEEL GOOD DRUGS.

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FitnessChick
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posted May 19, 2000 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
its definitly a huge decision....my personal opinion is dont do it....you do it once, & you might like it so much you want to keep doing it....i dont doubt your dicipline, but i know a lot of girls who said the same thing- they want to try it once to see what its like- & they just keep on doing it...just my .02....

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THE STEEL BEAST
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posted May 19, 2000 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE STEEL BEAST   Click Here to Email THE STEEL BEAST     Edit/Delete Message
E2 YA LIKE MY FATTIE POST?

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E2
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posted May 19, 2000 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Easton, i can't stand being disoriented and not in control. I can't take it at all, i've had a few suguries and i wouldn't let them give me general anesthetic for that exact reason, made then do it with local, i'd much rather feel pain than feel disoriented.

I can't stand being drunk, i can't take pain killers, i hate not being aware. Maybe i wouldn't like it.

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decibel
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posted May 19, 2000 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for decibel     Edit/Delete Message
whoever told you to take mushrooms first is wrong. acid, mushrooms, peyote or any other psychedelic drug requires a prepared state of mind.
ecstacy, on the other hand can safely be used
as a recreational drug. it'll make you a little wired and has sensory-enhancing properties, but you will not hallucinate nor will you be disoriented.
it's really not that big of a deal, but if i were you i'd read up on it first, just to know what to expect. the best source for rec drugs on the net is www.erowid.org they have absolutely everything you could possibly want to know about any rec drug.
have fun!!

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roobie
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posted May 19, 2000 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roobie   Click Here to Email roobie     Edit/Delete Message
I wouldn't worry about it too much, it's really not that big a deal to do a hit of E. These posts sound like something you'd see on 90210, you will not become addicted after 1 hit. Go to a good club, with some good tunes and you'll have a great time.
Don't do multiples your first time.

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easton
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posted May 19, 2000 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for easton   Click Here to Email easton     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 28380265
E2, yeah if you dont like being out of control, you will not like it one bit...people who do stuff like that are looking to lose control...thats the whole rave scene, get all high on xtc, and just let the music take over your body and forget about everything that controls you monday through friday 9-5...the way i look at drugs, alcohol, sex, exercise etc, is like this...everybody has their one release, something they can do for an hour or two to help them forget everything and relieve their stress and clear their mind...some people use drugs for that, some people use sex for that, some people use alcohol, some people use television, some people use food, alot of people use religion, anything you can think of, there are people who use that...well we all use weightlifting, youve already got your one thing, youre set...i used to use drugs as my release, now i use weightlifting so i dont need drugs, that is my release, when im lifting, my mind is clear, my heart is pumping and its like an orgasm of my soul, releasing all the built up stress and bullshit like busting a nut with your brain...hahaha

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Mad Max
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posted May 19, 2000 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mad Max   Click Here to Email Mad Max     Edit/Delete Message
I've done E alot until recently. Some things you might want to know first. Everyone is different I've always been able to mess with things and keep it under control like try something only once. If you are like this you shouldnt have a problem doing this one time. Do not take more than 2 pills if its your first time. I always feel in control of myself and your body will NEVER feel as good as been on E any other time. Plus you have to get it from someone you trust alot of people have bad experiences because they get shit E. Oh yeah stay away from the white ones some have alot of coke in them and make you immpetint while your one E. Just some of my thoughts before you make a decision.
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got big?
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posted May 19, 2000 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for got big?   Click Here to Email got big?     Edit/Delete Message
E2, I may not be an expert with steroids, but I've done my share of drugs. E(as we call it here) is one of my favorite drugs i've ever done. The feeling you get on it is amazing, and I think everyone should experience it once. But I'd reccomend waiting till after the cycle. It drains a lot out of you. I'd also reccomend starting with 1 pill your first time. I've done anywhere from 1 to 6 pills in one night, and I started off with 1 pill for my first time and I was hit off. Part of the drug is Amphetamine(speed) so your heart rate will be raised, more so if you're dancing and such. Not worth putting all that stress on your body if you're hitting the sauce hard. Also after becoming an Etard for a few years I lost a lot of motivation at the gym, and it seems to me you're a very serious trainer. If you do decide to take it, stay away from the alcohol. drink as much water as you can get your hands on. And make sure the next day when you wake up, keep drinking water and get as many protein shakes iny ou as possible! It'll kill your appetite. Be safe with it bro, I've been able to keep myself off of it for a month now, and I was doing it consistently every week (2-10 pills a week) I'm 100% set on weight training now and don't need any drugs getting int he way. Be safe bro.

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Fish
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posted May 19, 2000 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish   Click Here to Email Fish     Edit/Delete Message
memorial day weekend there is a big rave in Philly. 11000+ people attened last year. I go every year and I live in Indiana. It is a 11 hour drive and worth every min. If you are going to try E it is a perfect spot.

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WCP
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posted May 19, 2000 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
I wouldnt do it Bro.

I for one have never done it,nor do I plan on it. I dont know the effects if any it would have on your physique, but I know that x like other drugs such as lsd, produce irreversable damage to certain areas of the brain, including but not limited to shutting down many neuro pathways at a time, and from what Ive read permanately.

Do what you want..I mean to experiment is human nature, and I know you are well aware that if you like someting too much...well..its all pretty simple.

I just wouldnt, just my .02,
Later Bro,
WCP

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E2
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posted May 19, 2000 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Guys thanks a lot for the responses, i've done some more research and i'm not going to do it. Especially while my bp is as high as it is!!!

It's not worth messing with my cycle! First and foremost, heh heh those drugs are too important to me heh heh

thanks!

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Wood_Rooster
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posted May 19, 2000 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wood_Rooster   Click Here to Email Wood_Rooster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 72220411
Good decision to wait until you're off the cycle.

I have done MDMA many times back when it first came out. It was mostly pure then and we didn't have to worry about getting weird shit mixed in with it.

I recommend the feeling but don't recommend the habitual lifestyle that some get sucked into.

Anyway, here is some technical info on it. If you decide to do it eventually, I hope you find the pure stuff.

Authors: Freye E.

Institution: Prof. Dr. E. Freye, Ratinger Weg 21, D-40629 Dusseldorf; Germany.

Title:
Abuse of ecstasy and related designer-drugs.

Source:
Anasthesiologie und Intensivmedizin. Vol 38(10) (pp 517-530), 1997.

Abstract:
Ecstasy (chemical name 3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine or MDMA), commonly known as XTC, X, Adam or E is a semi-synthetic compound patented by the German company Merck as an anorectic drug in 1912, then used by psychotherapists in the 1970s. Being a schedule I drug since 1986 it still has gained wide popularity among the rave-setters as a recreational drug because of its entactogenic (touching within) and empathogenic (emotional closeness to others) properties, the enhancement of senses and the surfacing of repressed memories. Because of the frequent use of diluents such as LSD, amphetamines, cocaine, heroin or other opioids the picture of an acute intoxication is complicated. Frequent use in large dance events featuring house music, can lead to ravers experience dangerous exacerbation of dehydration and heat exhaustion, especially together with alcohol. MDMA does not lead to physical addiction but long-term abuse may result in psychic disturbance with bouts of depression. Other designer drug from the same family are MDA, MDE (Eve), and MBDB. These derivatives and especially designer drugs such as DOM, DET and DMT, produce dominant psychedelic-hallucinogenic effects. When administered in large doses, animal studies have presented evidence that MDMA causes partial loss of serotonergic neurons. Uncertain whether this loss is permanent or reversible, and whether it can be extrapolated to the human brain, studies in chronic users are looking for permanent damage of neuronal cells and correlation with gross behavioral changes. Taking all information together, a great many questions are still unanswered such as whether MDMA, maybe a useful adjunct in cancer pain therapy, chronic pain treatment or even its usefulness in psychotherapy.

You can find this reference and more at
http://www.openline.com.br/~edujoliv/ecstox.html

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Wood_Rooster
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posted May 19, 2000 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wood_Rooster   Click Here to Email Wood_Rooster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 72220411
Here is another informative link as well.

http://area51.upsu.plym.ac.uk/infoserv/drugs/graphical/grph-e.html

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FitnessChick
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posted May 19, 2000 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
you made the right decision....just my opinion....

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Joseph_stalin
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posted May 19, 2000 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joseph_stalin   Click Here to Email Joseph_stalin     Edit/Delete Message

mdma won't make you high. it will provide euphoria & a feeling that everything is perfect, but you will be in control. mda on the other hand makes you high & euphoric

i wouldn't worry about brain damage. What happens is the serotonin receptors get overworked and down the road it is THEORIZED that taking mdma or mda will make the serotonin receptors too broken down. and eventually lead to parkinsons. but that only happens if you are a habitual user. not a one time

also, if you are a habitual user, take 20 mg prozac 1 to 6 hours after you take the XTC pill. that will weaken the drugs effect, ie it won't be as good but it will make it easier on your serotonin receptors. if you are worried about your serotonin.

i am an expert in certain areas of this subject. But since you aren't going to use anyway this doesn't matter. but if you do, take 20 mg prozac 1-6 hours after the xtc, that will prevent any permanent damage.

i don't know how psychologically addictive x is. i would assume it is like heroin in that sense. not physically addictive like heroin, but if your life is all fucked up, the high might be too much for you to resist doing over & over again. might lead to depression.

if you do take it, you will be tired for 1 to 2 days afterward.


so if you change yoru mind, and are worried about brain damage take 1 prozac pill 1-6 hours after you take the XTC pill.

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Big Buck
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posted May 19, 2000 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Buck   Click Here to Email Big Buck     Edit/Delete Message
I would wait until u got off your cycle. X is the shit bro. I've only done it twice, but the experience was well worth it. Just got have the right woman or in my case right women to do it with.

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posted May 19, 2000 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eagledude   Click Here to Email eagledude     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68446686
all X is, is pretty much the pill form of GHB, it is kinda like speed, it will make ur heart fuckin race, and it makes u horny as hell. make sure if you do it that u only take as much as the dealer reccomends cause if you overdose ur body will overheat and burn up and there is nothin they can do about it, so if you overdose you could die, go into a coma, mental retardation, or nothing
but i say go for it man, it is soo much fun, just be careful

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Samuel
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posted May 19, 2000 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samuel   Click Here to Email Samuel     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 22308067
E2 I've taken a shit load of drugs, but I quit. It was a ton of fun, but if I could do it over I would take it all back. XTC is nothing like acid, whoever said that, unless they got some weak shit. I used to take acid everyday. XTC is much more body feeling, but you would have to try the drug, it can't be put it to words. If I were you I wouldn't bother. You're not missing much and it will fuck up your work outs for days. Also XTC is prob the worst drug you can do, so much shit in it. Depends on who makes it. Becareful man, new to the board but hate to loose the best moderator on the board to a drug.

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Samuel
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posted May 19, 2000 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samuel   Click Here to Email Samuel     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 22308067
One more thing it doesn't MAKE you horny, it just feels real good when ever someone touches you so people relate it to sex, naturally. Hmm, I guess that would mean it does make you horny, hehe. Seriously, it just feels real good being touched when your on it.

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posted May 19, 2000 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Komo   Click Here to Email Komo     Edit/Delete Message
E2! I`ve taken X about 10 times, it`s the greatest feeling!!!
BUT....Afterwards you will be low for a couple of weeks, there is also proven long term damage to your Serotonin system.
I don`t do it anymore, but I long for that feeling of being totally at ease with everything. At the same time I want everyone to experience that feeling.
My advice is: Do it if you really feel like it but be careful, you will want to do it again...

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conan69
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posted May 19, 2000 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
E2 take two pills and call me in the mornin

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posted May 19, 2000 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doggod   Click Here to Email doggod     Edit/Delete Message
Here's my take,
I've done X to many times to count. I've come home, after work, just to sleep till 3AM. Woken up and then proceeded to get ready to go out.
I've left home on Friday night and gotten home sunday afternoon. 10 hit nights weren't unheard of. Through these experiences I've come to these conclusions. X itself is not an "evil" drug. Through my years of rollin' I've only seen 1, yes 1 fight in a club. And the dudes were drinkin by the bar. Real X doesn't make you "high". It puts you in the BEST MOOD YOU'LL EVER SEE IN YOUR LIFE (only love feels better). Just as juicers are part of a brotherhood, so are trippers in any given club. You love every person in there.
The problem with mdma is this; let's say someone trips with the same amt of E every couple weeks. At first the feeling is awesome, but as the weeks progress diminishing returns catch up and overtake you. In other words, you don't become tolerant but that same amount that made ya feel awesome will eventually make you feel like shit.
Another problem is that seratonin levels are depleted after trippin. They usually take a week to return to normal. Weekly trippin often causes depression.
According to studies the neurotoxicity associated with mdma happens when the mdma wears off. Not during rollin'. I may be wrong but from what I remember after the mdma wears off your neurons and axons(what is the plural of axon anyway?) are flooded with dopamine. An easy way to save your gray matter is to pop a prozac as soon as you stop rollin. Check out dancesafe.org for the complete report.
The biggest problem today is this, just like a huge amt of sauce is faked, so are the hits out there. Eat a DXM (found in cough medicine hit and you'll be sittin on the stairs all night at the club. I've gone as far as buying a testing kit ($25). Wish they had one for juice.
X doesn't make you feel out of control. It just puts ya in a great mood.
A lot of sites have pictures of pills and lab analysis conducted. Heroin has NEVER been found in hits. At least this is what some sites write.
Coke is also way, way to expensive and short acting to put into hits. If ya make the jump make sure it's legit. No DXM!!

Anyone who's been to the clubs here in NY knows what I'm talkin about.

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posted May 20, 2000 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capt'n_Crunch   Click Here to Email Capt'n_Crunch     Edit/Delete Message
E2 just roll a fat ass blunt...... its the most relaxing thing in the world, no raised BP, no increased heart rate, just happiness..... If anything it will lower you BP and HR

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posted May 20, 2000 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tuna Guy   Click Here to Email Tuna Guy     Edit/Delete Message
Do it.
You never know until you try. A better person for the experience. Make sure it is legit mdma. Just do the 1 pill. If after an hour, no real difference then pop another one. I am speaking from experience. Also if you do like it make it a monthly rather than weekly experience, and keep the dosage the same. Watch out for E spiked with ketamine, destroys the night, oh and your pecker will shrink.

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posted May 20, 2000 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71552136
Uhhhh...??What is with the third person referral?

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posted May 20, 2000 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxCollegeguy   Click Here to Email TxCollegeguy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 48636409
There must be some people here with Bad X experiences...I don't know anyone who would waste Coke to put in X...that just seems absurd...not saying it couldn't or doesn't happen but they could do far more with it not adding it...

I've never posted when people have talked about X but seeing one of my board Idols speak on this subject I felt compelled to respond...

My experiences with X I've never had anything more then a Good Body feeling...I've never had problems with eating or working out aftward. If anyone has then I'm sorry you have...though it's not something I do often or alot I have never had anything bad to say about it. It's been alot of fun.

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posted May 21, 2000 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for funkoram   Click Here to Email funkoram     Edit/Delete Message
Rolling is a pretty powerful experience the first time, so if you are going to do it, I suggest taking 1/2 a pill the first time. Gelcaps are usually the cleanest, but they are hard to come by. I took a urinalysis 2 days after rolling and tested positive for 4 differentcontrolled substances, including pcp and opiates. It may lead to depression and it will raise your bp and bodt temperature, especially if your are dancing for about 5-6hours. So after all this info you may be wondering why would I even want to try something like this? Well, I'd be lying if I also didn't tell you that I have had my most wonderfully hedonistic moments while on the drug, be it sex, dancing, listening to music.
even conversations with other people will seem like the most touching and enjoyable experiences in the world. But if you are a control freek, I would advise you not to touch the stuff period.

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posted May 21, 2000 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigsexy     Edit/Delete Message
stick to ghb and gbl products, the feeling is somewhat close to x but it wont mess with your mood as much (hell of a lot cheaper too)

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posted May 21, 2000 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmucko   Click Here to Email shmucko     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't wade through all the responses so here is some advice from someone who has done a lot of X. It is a stimulant, you will sweat and you will lose weight, withoiut the gear it would probably be rather catabolic since your up and active with no desire to eat. It could rev up your heart but I never had that problem. The only thing that stops me from doing it now is the whole brain damage thing. I believe it's why I have an anxiety problem, that sucks and should be reason enough not to do it. My opinion on the matter, your choice.

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posted May 21, 2000 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TxCollegeguy   Click Here to Email TxCollegeguy     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 48636409
I can still eat like a freakin horse even on X

but then again I eat whenever I think about needing or wanting food so that takes care of that problem...

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posted May 23, 2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for browndog1     Edit/Delete Message
i wouldn't suggest eating any pills right now. i had a friend who was training to be a pro wrestler and was in south america training and juicing (about 1-2 g's of test a week) and ate a few pills-the rest is history. he died and hopefully a few people learned a lesson. it's sad to think about and i suggest if you do be very careful. my girl and i did X all the time and ate our last pill on new years eve. research the stuff before making any decision. it is a blast and i have never had so much fun, but it can be followed ny depression, anxiety attacks, etc.. i have read a lot about it and have found it affects the weak a lot worse. check it out and if you choose to roll you head off have a great time.

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Ockizard
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posted May 23, 2000 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ockizard   Click Here to Email Ockizard     Edit/Delete Message
funkoram...gelcaps?? we're talking about rolls here, aren't we?? you were correct in stating that gelcaps are one of the cleaner forms of acid..but im not aware of a gellcap roll..

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THESAINT
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posted May 23, 2000 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
If you take 2 tabs of E are those E2s. heh heh. Don't take it E2. It gets ahold of you.
When you're on it you feel great, but when you get off you start to feel down, so you
take it again to feel great and on and on.

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funkoram
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posted May 24, 2000 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for funkoram   Click Here to Email funkoram     Edit/Delete Message
to ockizard

The gelcaps were pure mdma capsules that used to circulate from amsterdam & san francisco about 3-4years ago. They were real clean but not that powerful so people stopped buying them

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SCHNiKEN
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posted May 24, 2000 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
There are new gelcaps around in newyork a few months ago so they still exist and these were pretty strong.. E2 man you only live once and e is definately something you want to experience.. ive done 100's of hits on countless occasions and all i can say is that it was some of the best times in my life.. i used to promote for sound factory exit and tunnel.. and do e every weekend.. now thats not a good thing so now ive slowed down ALOT.. i did E maybe twice this year.. its not addicting you can stop anytime.. it just lets you see life from a different perspective for a little while.. i did it on cycles b4 and i found that it cut me up.. Acid and E are nothing alike.. They both let you see the world from different perspectives though.. Ive mixed E with acid.. "candyflipping" and that was sick too.. i know i sound like a drug addict.. well i used to be im moving on though.. I SAY DO IT E2 but just dont let it get the best of you..

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joker
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posted May 24, 2000 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joker   Click Here to Email joker     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8732220
Do it. Moderation is the key. You only live once...

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Rich1
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posted May 25, 2000 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich1   Click Here to Email Rich1     Edit/Delete Message
That stuff burns out your brain and you feel burned out for a couple days after word, I wouldn't do. Just stay healthy bro, eat and lift right, I like the pump I get when on the juice and it's a high like no other..

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posted May 25, 2000 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Thanks for the answers guys, but i think i'm going to hold off on it. It's not for me

thansk


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stallion
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posted May 25, 2000 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stallion   Click Here to Email stallion     Edit/Delete Message
For christ sake - dont listen to fish & take two or three pills for your first time. I assume E in the US is of similar potency to the UK, and usually 1 pill is enough to get me fucked. Ecstacy gives me depression mid week due to a reduction in neurotransmiters such as seretonin - this would make training a little hard in my opinion. On the plus side it is an amazing expierience and great fun if you are in to your music.
Those bodybuilders slagging off E? I don't get you in my opinion a drug is a drug - some get you big some get you high, at the end of the day most drugs purpous is to make you happy. Just be educated.

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stallion
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posted May 25, 2000 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stallion   Click Here to Email stallion     Edit/Delete Message
For christ sake - dont listen to fish & take two or three pills for your first time. I assume E in the US is of similar potency to the UK, and usually 1 pill is enough to get me fucked. Ecstacy gives me depression mid week due to a reduction in neurotransmiters such as seretonin - this would make training a little hard in my opinion. On the plus side it is an amazing expierience and great fun if you are in to your music.
Those bodybuilders slagging off E? I don't get you in my opinion a drug is a drug - some get you big some get you high, at the end of the day the point of most drug use is to make you happy. Just be educated.

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Kane1
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posted May 25, 2000 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kane1     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not going to lie Extacy is the shit. It makes you feel great, but as far as being good for bodybuilding hell no. If I do E or something any work that I have done the previos week is lost.

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Checkmatebloated
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posted May 25, 2000 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Checkmatebloated   Click Here to Email Checkmatebloated     Edit/Delete Message
x was the first drug I tried at 17years old. I just feet first. started Juice at 15 did not drink beer until 18. X was fun then as long as it is X and not the type that is full of speed. you will know the difference when you start peaking about 1:30 into it you will love everybody you eye will have no color, just a pupil. hehehe everyone will be your best friend. It is great.

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aten8
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posted May 25, 2000 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aten8   Click Here to Email aten8     Edit/Delete Message
Just a note for all you guys who think XTC is speedy. Your so dead wrong the only reason you think this is because the shit you are taking is probably only 40% pure MDMA(methylenedioxmeymethamphetamine). It is usually mixed as
1 kilo MDMA
2 Kilos crystal amphetamine (speed)
1/4 ephedrine used as the binding agent.(speed)
If it's CLEAN, otherwise herion or other shit is used.
Pure MDMA has a total, should be ego softening,feelings of emotionally based love and empathy, in depth communication,and heightened awareness. Not all fucking skceethy , paranoid, nervious, and chewing on your lip like some retard. And pure MDMA at 100-150 mg(orally) should not last you more than 4-5hrs even your fist time. Not 7-9 like most do.

I'm not knocking the drug I just letting some people aware of what they think they are taking and actually are. And Yes I've tried it on more than one occassion.

Peace

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bigrand
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posted May 25, 2000 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigrand   Click Here to Email bigrand     Edit/Delete Message
yes E2 XTC will give you a monster heartrate
A friend of mine passed out in a club after he droped. in your condition, i would be very careful.
Wait until you are of cycole or your bloodpressure goes down. The shit is great.
You are hyper as hell and horny as fuck. Everything is perfect when on E.

[This message has been edited by bigrand (edited May 25, 2000).]

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tessai
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posted May 25, 2000 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tessai   Click Here to Email tessai     Edit/Delete Message
to all who use gear and turn around and say "NO! Don't do it E2" Shut UP! Fuckin hippocrites, I can't stand it when someone is doin' something to themselves and turns around to tell another to as they say not as they do. E2 is a smart man and I don't think his decision could in any be swayed by the lot of us. If any of this offends you are a hippocrite, don't be that guy!


There is nothing but the training.

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Thick dog
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posted June 05, 2000 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
I did it a few times and thought it was awesome. Especially if you have a girl around to play with. But I would'nt advise anyone who hasn't done it to do it. You definately can go through stages where you are not in complete control.

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RaverDude
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posted June 05, 2000 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RaverDude   Click Here to Email RaverDude     Edit/Delete Message
hey guys, if you have questions about party drugs especially E, why dont you ask the RaverDude??? I must have done every party drug there is exept heroin(I'll never touch that shit). I must have done E like a thousand times. It all depends on what is in the pill. If its real MDMA then you'll feel like you are in heaven. If its bulshit, you'll just get a quick rush and feel like shit afterwards. Depression will folow for a period of 2-4 days. Trust the raverdude on this one. He is the E-fuckin-master.


<<<<<<<<<EAT SLEEP LIFT>>>>>>>>>>

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Latimer
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posted June 06, 2000 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Latimer     Edit/Delete Message
No one really knows for sure what long term effects that E will cause. I've been hearing that it destroys your spinal cord and screws with the fluid. Of course everyone said LSD made your brain bleed. I think moderation is the key with anything. I just want to know when the hell it became "E". I always thought "X" sounded cooler. Here's a nice sniplet from Eminem's song Drug Ballad. It's funny i just happened to be listening to it when i read this thread.

This ecstacy has got me standin next to you
Gettin sentimental as fuck, spillin guts to you,
We just met, but I think I'm in love with you,
But your on it too,
so you tell me you love me too,
Wake up in the morning like "What the fuck we do?"
I gotta go bitch, you know I got stuff to do,
Cuz if I get caught cheatin then I'm stuck with you,
But in the long run these drugs are prolly gonna catch up sooner or later,
But fuck it I'm on one,
so let's enjoy it,
let the ex destroy your spinal chord,
so it's not a straight line no more,
So we walk around lookin like some wind-up dolls,
shit stickin out of our backs like a dinosaur,
Shit, six hit's won't even get me high no more,
so bye for now, I'm gonna try to find some more....

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sandiegomike
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posted June 06, 2000 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sandiegomike   Click Here to Email sandiegomike     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70005435
definitly some good and bad advice going on in here. i can tell you this, it can be the best time or worst time of your life, depending on what you get. saying your taking "x" is like saying you are taking "steroids". what kind of steriods, they are all different completely. and NEVER start buy taking multiple pills. size of the man means nothing, its all in the pill. start with a half, wait an hour and if nothing happens, go up another half every hour till it does. tell me what kind of "x" you can get and i will give you some advice of the quality. and for those who say don't take it, why not? it is not any worse than taking steroids, and we know how much we hate it when people tell us not to do that! our own free choice, just with any drug, do your research and be responsible!!!

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slim jim
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posted June 06, 2000 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slim jim   Click Here to Email slim jim     Edit/Delete Message
E2 DONT DO IT. IF YOU ALREADY DECIDED NOT TO, GOOD MAN.

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Dark Stalker
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posted June 06, 2000 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark Stalker   Click Here to Email Dark Stalker     Edit/Delete Message
It's good you chosen not to do it. I saw a documentary on TV and you're vessel can blow out ! Some people died from that !

Dark Stalker

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Formula
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posted June 06, 2000 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Formula   Click Here to Email Formula     Edit/Delete Message
Does xtc really make you more aroused(F/M)or is it just a lighter version of speed?

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Dlady27
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posted June 06, 2000 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dlady27   Click Here to Email Dlady27     Edit/Delete Message
Formula... this stuff makes you feel very mellow. most people like to be touched when on it, although with men, they can not get it up on this, then when you come down off of it YES, you are then very horny!!! To say it bluntly!

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Latimer
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posted June 06, 2000 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Latimer     Edit/Delete Message
Speed willy man. Like ECA dick to the 5th.

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code_x
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posted June 06, 2000 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for code_x   Click Here to Email code_x     Edit/Delete Message
hey my man ecstacy is great but it does cause long term brain damage...I have done roughly 40 pills in my life...it has been over two years since I've done it...but I still get tracers from lights...if you do x...take prozac within 5 hours after you finish "rolling" this will help prevent brain damage...remember mdma was intended to be an appetite suppresent it is very hard to eat the next day if you take a strong pill it will be very hard to consume the proper amount of calories...take a tums before you chew the pill (the best way to use e is to chew or snort it) and have fun-x

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Steelheart
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posted June 06, 2000 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelheart   Click Here to Email Steelheart     Edit/Delete Message
"but I still get tracers from lights"

What do you mean by that?

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code_x
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posted June 06, 2000 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for code_x   Click Here to Email code_x     Edit/Delete Message
tracers...like when I look at a light it leaves trails of light...look a light when your really tired you know how the beams kindda shine in your face? I get that 24/7...it kindda sucks but it's my own fault...I always see "starbursts" all light looks super intense to me...its all do to seretonin nerve damage...-x

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Jay-T
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posted June 07, 2000 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay-T   Click Here to Email Jay-T     Edit/Delete Message
forget it and take ephedrine

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