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Twisted_Steel Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 70) |
posted May 10, 2000 08:38 PM
 
If your involved within the Napster Community then you know what im Talking About! A Great big suck my di** to Lars Ulrich. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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beastmasster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted May 10, 2000 10:29 PM
Did you see the new vid with Tom Cruise and all that shit going on? Talk about pimping yourself out for anything! Tom Cruise? jesus. HH IP: Logged |
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blackhaus1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 337) |
posted May 11, 2000 01:17 AM
Twisted, I am so fucking pissed off at Metallica, that I will never EVER listen to them ever again. I have been banned from napster for having one, yes i repeat, ONE of their songs on my system. Metallica can take the money that they are saving from people not downloading their MP3's and shove it up their asses b/c you couldn't give me their cd for free those money sucking leeches, fuck them. Ok i am finished now ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BackDoc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 185) |
posted May 11, 2000 01:31 AM
I'm an old fart...I bought one of their first tapes when I was finishing high school (Ride the Lightning, I think it was). Anyway, I used to listen to them in college when I was getting ready for football games to help pump me up. I haven't listened to them in over a decade. So help out an old geriatric working stiff...what is the story with Metallica and Napsters? (Please explain what a napster is, since this seems like a cool topic). Thanks. IP: Logged |
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glenbenton Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 197) |
posted May 11, 2000 02:35 AM
metallica are fucking poser sellout faggots who suck eachothers cocks. did you hear that kid rock song that uses the guitar riff from the song sad but true. kid rock is a no tallent peice of garbage and metallica are cocksuckers IP: Logged |
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Joseph_stalin Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 620) |
posted May 11, 2000 05:01 AM
luckily i have never downloaded any metallica songs. but i have one dr. dre song, and he might try the same thing on napster that metallica did. 300,000 are banned due to the metallica copyright ruling. anyone with at least one song is banned for life. IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted May 11, 2000 05:20 AM
hehe, i LOVE metalica. u wont catch me listening to anything else when i train. and to you blackhause, cant u just log on with a different name?? create a new account? u know they do it to shock everybody. to stand out. thats always been theire thng. ------------------ http://home.sol.no/~mrmuscle/ IP: Logged |
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biggun Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 70) |
posted May 11, 2000 06:48 AM
HELL GOD DAMN ASS YEAH! Fuck those sell outs the fans got those little bitches where they are and now they fuck us over I dare them to tell me this shit to my face, too fuckin bad for them I'll never listen to their shit again. Rock on Limp Bizkit doing a totally free tour sponsored by Napster, throw it back in their face Durst. IP: Logged |
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vdevil Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 634) |
posted May 11, 2000 09:02 AM
Is that glen from deicide?? I agree totally with you bro. Kid rock is a no-talent piece of shit and as far as I am concerned, metalica went south after and justice. Fuck'em both. IP: Logged |
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Serial Joe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted May 11, 2000 10:16 AM
I agree 100%. Metallica sucks. Hell I never liked them, before they were always whining about getting no radio airplay (big fucken deal) and now they're complaining about people getting their songs for free! What the fuck!?!! Who do they think they are? John Lennon's reincarnation? Tell those sell out faggots to get with the times. As for Kid Rock, I could pull a better CD outta my ass. Milli Vanilli had more talent than that poseur does. Has anyone seen the new Sex Pistols movie yet??? I heard it rocks. IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 3038) |
posted May 11, 2000 11:08 AM
If you're banned make a new account, what's the big deal??? Tell me what's going on, i haven't heard about this, can someone give me details? IP: Logged |
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blackhaus1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 337) |
posted May 11, 2000 11:57 AM
Ok guys heres the deal, Metallica is all mad because they are saying that anyone that downloaded their music off of Napster is guilty of copyright infringement of thir music. Lars Ulrich was on KRock (a station here in NY), saying about how its not about that money and its about principle for him and all other artists. Then that piece of shit has the balls to storm into the Napster headquarters in CA with the names of all the people that have their songs downloaded (around 300,000 people) and went crazy and started screaming about how its "fucking robbery to artists," and that really pissed me off. How can someone that has been so lucky to achieve fame and fortune be bitching about money?? You know how much money that band has made over the last 10 years???? Enough to buy my entire neighborhood 50 times over(and i am not poor!) ...So yes i can create a new account but that also means that I have to redownload the other 300 and somewhat songs that I have..oh yeah and i wanna beat lars ulrich...thats it for now ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BackDoc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 185) |
posted May 11, 2000 01:19 PM
Okay, thanks for filling me in on what's happening. Sounds like Metallica didn't think too clearly about the consequences of making all their former fans mad. You know, just about any time I hear someone preface what they're gonna say with "It's not about the money", then I am almost positive that it's all about money to them. IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 817) |
posted May 11, 2000 05:26 PM
VDevil, Hell yeah they want south after justice. This new thing is bullshit. It's totally about money, and it's pissing a lot of people off. To everyone else: yeah fuck them is right. If you have songs downloaded (and who doesn't?) then just burn them to CDs and clear out your memory. Assholes they are. MAtt IP: Logged |
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BiffBoom Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 367) |
posted May 11, 2000 05:31 PM
well...all of you can lift to Britney Spear's then. If I was talented enough to have a band...I would want people to pay for my music. IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 817) |
posted May 11, 2000 05:39 PM
Biff, I understand your point. But Napster provides so much exposure for bands who would otherwise never get it. Napster can literally make a new band very popular faster than any other medium. So how does this band make money then, if they lose some album sales? They actually work for it: GO ON TOUR!!!!!!
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted May 11, 2000 05:53 PM
F - them, you know why Limp is doing a free show because they have so mnuch money know they can. Any Band with Talent these days can go farther than the rest of us will ever imagine. Only when it has happened do they understand what they have got. Hey V-devil whats up with the Kid Rock he's one of your home town boys? I kinda like the skinny fuk. Talks shit that he can't back up, but he'll I like it. Hey Garth fukkin brooks started this shit about a year ago on MP3 and the little bitch wanted a cut on his used cd that were being resold. What a dick head. Wish he would have got hit in the head at spring training. [This message has been edited by Cleaner (edited May 11, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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BiffBoom Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 367) |
posted May 11, 2000 05:59 PM
Napster is great for free exposure...but it still can destroy revenues. All Napster needs to do is get bands to sign a marketing agreement. Like MPPP does..or Farmclub.com or Spin.com As for legalities...Napster is the vehicle for illegal copy-right infringements. You can not offer someone's product without those people allowing it. Kind of like how McDonald's can not sell Pepsi without having an agreement with Pepsi. You would think that McD's could just go buy their own Pepsi and resell it....but they can't. Napster can't be the vehicle for illegal downloads unless Metallica gives them the legal right to do so. Personally, I think Metallica should allow their old tunes to be passed by Napster. IP: Logged |
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vdevil Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 634) |
posted May 11, 2000 06:05 PM
I know he is from detroit, actually not far from me, but I hate him. I hated him when he was local, and I still do. We were at a bar in royal oak called the bears den about a month ago, and that skinny fuck was there with his degenerate posse. This guy I was with put his smoke out in guitarist drink. Kinda funny, almost incited a riot. IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted May 11, 2000 06:29 PM
Ok, works for me. It weird how the locals talent rubs you wrong. You know mor eabout him than I do. No doubt he's a little punk. I hate the little guys who talk big shit. Actually the guitar player is wasting his talent in that band. From what I hear on the CD he's got the stuff. V-Devil says he an ass - That makes him a big one. I'm cool with that. Hey whats your take on Bob Seager(sp). Man I could has been 8 and my father was taking me to see him. His early shit is. Not the Like a Rock crap. IP: Logged |
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vdevil Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 634) |
posted May 11, 2000 09:37 PM
Hey cleaner, never really listened to seger. It is kind of funny, because almost everyone I know likes kid rock except me. We are always fighting about it. IP: Logged |
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Serial Joe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted May 11, 2000 10:14 PM
I agree with the guy who mentioned touring to make money. It's true! I read in the Biography of Kurt Cobain, that Nirvana had to sell 8 million copies of Nevermind before Kurt became a millionaire, but had they gone on tour during the summer of 92 with Guns N Roses and Metallica (and thankfully they didn't tour with those two pussy sellout bands), he would have grossed 10 times that. Touring is where most bands make their money. Why do you think CD burners are even available? Hell we've had cassette tapes for years. Does Metallica seriously beleive that a few hundred thousand people trading and copying songs is going to cut into their revenue in the least? Hell no! People have been dubbing tapes and burning cds for years now. Metallica makes more money in one day on their worldwide T-shirt sales than I make in a year and I'm not poor. They're just beeing greedy. And all this from a band that really when you think about it, probably won't be remembered in 50 years for much more than Enter Sandman and a handful of other songs. The next person who tells me that Metallica is the Led Zeppelin of our generation is going to be walking around with an Olympic bar shoved up his ass! IP: Logged |
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B_Funk Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 132) |
posted May 11, 2000 10:51 PM
OK, can someone explain this to me. I was one of the 300,000 that got kicked off because of stupid Metalica. I deleted all my napster software, moved my Metalica files, and opened a new account. When I signed on, it brought up my old account user name and said I was banned. WTF? IP: Logged |
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Jay Z Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 256) |
posted May 11, 2000 11:38 PM
maybe you'll have to reinstall it.. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 817) |
posted May 11, 2000 11:38 PM
Kicked off-guy Your IP address is logged - in other words they know it is your computer by the line you are using to access the Internet. You'll have to get another line or else use a friend's computer. Biff, Napster exists on a premise that says that you can LISTEN to what other people have uploaded. This is legal - it is akin to you going to your friend's house and listening to a CD on his CD player. There are legal issues to downloading, just as it is illegal for you to make a copy of your buddy's CD. My point is, Napster's disclaimer should absolve them of responsibility, so what right does Metallica have to get people kicked off? It is the same as if they were to confiscate your buddy's CD player because you used it illegally. Matt IP: Logged |
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glenbenton Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 197) |
posted May 12, 2000 12:22 AM
yes this is glen from deicide whats up........ gofuckyourjesus IP: Logged |
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BackDoc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 185) |
posted May 12, 2000 12:29 AM
glenbenton I take it you don't like christians! IP: Logged |
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Platinum Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 184) |
posted May 12, 2000 12:55 AM
I love it when the pot is being stirred. I LOVE METALLICA. Fuck you guys/girls who say you don't you obviously know every song they ever wrote. Look at it from the other side; if you had a unique idea in your head and you wrote it down on paper and it was good, wouldn't you want to be paid? Of course it is the fucking principle. Look at all the songs that are written by the MIGHTY MET. Most of them are written or cowritten by Lars Ulrich. I give him the freedom to storm into wherever the fuck he wants if his shit is being ripped off. If you cannot understand that then you need to get a grip. Metallica maybe a sell out...the sell out arenas, stadiums, etc etc. If you don't like them turn the station...if you don't like me then fuck you. Obviously NAPSTER is using these up and comers to promote their website, sell tickets, get revenue...Metallica already has cash..you tell me who is the sellout. You people are so near sighted it sickens me...usually I can handle it but right now I say fuck you. Platinum ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 817) |
posted May 12, 2000 01:39 AM
Platinum, Are you their A & R guy? Or a roadie or some shit? (Probably a groupie - dress up like a girl to get backstage and get something rectally from Hetfield). Metallica wrote a lot of good shit, but this move is on shaky legal ground. It's not simply "we wrote it we own it". If it was then Napster would have gone down a long time ago. But it hasn't. You got all your chromosomes jackass? Matt IP: Logged |
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THE STEEL BEAST Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156) |
posted May 12, 2000 01:42 AM
HAHAHAH THE LEAD SINGER IS A REDNECK FAG WITH A MULLET......CHECK OUT WHAT A MULLET IS ON WWW.MULLETSGALORE.COM IP: Logged |
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ryry Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
posted May 12, 2000 02:06 AM
Metallica sucks big dicks! They are greedy, they want to make every possible penny they can. if they were true musicians, they would enjoy the fact that napster is allowing their music to be heard by everyone! p.s. when they took some of your accounts did they take the songs too, that would suck! IP: Logged |
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Joseph_stalin Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 620) |
posted May 12, 2000 03:24 AM
its probably due to the advent of cd burners. you can make a high quality cd for $1. And that makes them think that everyone will burn cds for $1 instead of buying them for $18. Of course the only reason metallica is mad is because they own more aspects of their music than most other bands. i think that they make more than the 7% royalty rate that is given to most artists. They probably make closer to 30% because i think that they own their own label. And if you own the label then their money goes to you. so it is most likely about money. That might be why dr dre is doing the same thing. i don't know if he owns his own label. if he did he would be out 3x as much money than if he didn't. although that is an interesting point. bands do make alot more money from touring than they do from album sales. And the reality is if everyone listens to your music, you can assume that they might be more inclined to go to a concert. IP: Logged |
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THE STEEL BEAST Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156) |
posted May 12, 2000 03:41 AM
I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE REASON METALLICA IS MAD BECAUSE HE HAS A MULLET AND DOESNT REALIZE THAT HE HAS ONE CAUSE IF HE WAS A SELF RESPECTING GENTLEMAN HE WOULDNT HAVE A MULLET. IP: Logged |
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vdevil Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 634) |
posted May 12, 2000 08:47 AM
Hetfield is a fucking mullet-head. I love it. lol. I hate mullets. IP: Logged |
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Capt'n_Crunch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted May 12, 2000 09:12 AM
Hey if they wrote their music and they worked to produce it then it shouldnt be given out to the entire world for free and thats what Napster does.... I dont care what anyone says, if it was you getting jacked by some company for your loot, even indirectly, Im pretty sure you would be pissed too, now its one thing to find a friend who has a song or cd or tape that you want to copy, everyone does that and no one can stop it, but no company should be allowed to set up a global pipeline for stealing peoples shit so that they can make money off of it by using it to blow up their name. I can understand the thing about people who have already DL'd stuff from napster and have been banned..... I think its bullshit and shouldnt have happened. If this was some small personal website that had a few MP3s of their favorite band because they support them then it would be different,because the purpose would be to promote a band, but that isnt the purpose of Napster..... people can download entire cds off of there so whats the point of even making and selling cds if everyone can just DL and burn them? IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted May 12, 2000 09:15 AM
I'm laughing my ass. Everyone ease up a little. SHit that Mullet head stuff is funny. I could laugh my ass off all day that shit. I'm going to print that guy out and put him up on the bulletin board at work. Why are most heavy metal- soft. I mean, shit - talk trash, you should have something to back your shit up. Not all but, shit 80 to 90% are f-in pencil necks. Money is power, they have the money and throw around the power. If they can't do it themselves, they have an army of suit to fill in ---- its truely messed up. IP: Logged |
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Whammo Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted May 12, 2000 09:44 AM
I look at it this way. Napster will NEVER be shut down. (figuratively). They may shut it down, but another "Napster" will pop up sooner or later. The internet CANNOT be regulated, and people will NOT let it be either. The internet is finally the PEOPLES chance of being free from the gov't and many of their stupid laws. IT IS THE EMBODIMENT of free speech and sharing of information.. OH NO! THEY WILL ONLY make 20million$$$ opposed to 100 million.. One thing that these bands have to realise is: TIMES CHANGE. WIth Napster, whoever said it was right - the small guys get exposure.. so they are happy for it. If Mp3's were SEVERLY cutting the income of these musicians, I can understand, but they are still making a HUGE living through touring, merchandising, radio play, pub appearances.. I have no sympathy AT ALL for jerk off bands that pull that BS. Hooray for free information!!!!! IT is the classic example of people helping other people! Lars - fuq you and your money grabbing efforts. "It's the principal" my fat white ass.... he should be friggin flattered that people are downloading his music. What ever happened to making music for the PEOPLE you fuqing capitalistic prick... well.. there's my rant... anyone comment?? IP: Logged |
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Gtn-Big2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 113) |
posted May 12, 2000 10:12 AM
So I guess when you guys strike it rich and have tons of money, you won't mind handing some over to the rest of us (around 300,000 or so), hell people you talk all day long about fucking scammers in AS...well this shit going on here is the same crap. Only now it is with scamming music, careers & lives. Every fuckin idiot nowadays wants something for nothing.......work for it, bust your ass for it, and if you so desire later on...let others take it from you! IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted May 12, 2000 10:40 AM
Thing is it never the up start band. It always these dicks who Have more than could ever spend. Like Grath should get a cut when one of his CD are sold used. Here you go for scamming. I have a buddie Bill - he has tied his computer into his home entertainment center. The fucker has like 20 gig ( thats right 20 gig ) of MP3. Here the cool part, his computer is vioce controlled and you can sit on the sofa and just call up song after song. IP: Logged |
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Platinum Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 184) |
posted May 12, 2000 10:44 AM
Let me get this straight right now. I am not their A & R guy. I choose to listen to them because they are damn good. It is theft to download a track that is copyrighted. Plain and simple. It is very analgous to someone stealing cable or satellite. I understand if you have spent all your money on gear or supplements and cannot afford the CD. Also, it is obvious that this whole thing is about getting free music. If you hate Metallic so much then why does it bother you if you can't download their music? HMMMM????? Also, why are they selling out if you can't download their music...it sounds like the people you can download are sellouts. I am not flaming anyone. I appreciate your opinion but if you have a valid point you should make it. Don't just say "THEY SUCK" that is pretty weak. Platinum ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Capt'n_Crunch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted May 12, 2000 10:58 AM
How much money you have is not an issue, they worked for it and earned it, they didnt go out and steal it or force anyone to buy their records. They wrote and produced music that tons of us enjoy(ed) and so we bought it....what is going to happen in 5 years when and if you can just go online and download any song you want and burn it, cus in 5 years cd burners will be as common place as regular cd drives are now....no one will even bother buying cds cus they will still be expensive (they practically havent changed in price since they first came out) and blank cds will be cheaper than blank tapes are now. That is millions and millions of dollars lost.... Not to mention the fact that people will simply bootleg the shit for dirt cheap prices to undercut the real deal.... IP: Logged |
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blackhaus1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 337) |
posted May 12, 2000 11:45 AM
Ok...a little more from me....I USED to like Mettalica until this whole downward spiral began..I had ONE song by them on Napster, and it was an acoustic song that isn't available like, ANYWHERE. That is one of the best features about Napster, that it has rare songs that you can't find on CD. Since Metallica has shown how greedy they really are, I will never buy another one of their CD's or see them in concert. I think they should seriously chill the fuck out. They have so much money, and its not like every one of those 300000 poeple have burners. People just listen at their computer like I do, and have their cd's. Anyway, the whole point to this is that Metallica just went and created a shitload of negative publicity for themselves over some money and i think that the whole uproar that they caused is going to make them lose more money in the long run...Just my 2 cents! Anyone agree with that? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted May 12, 2000 12:35 PM
the idea behind these sight was that, you could sample the album and figure out if you wanted to buy. I can't tell you how many albums I have with only one good song. It totally sucks. As for me I buy a ton of music. People look at my collection and are taken back. I beleive if you like it support it. Other wise there won't be any bands. Lately I have been buying alot of used CD. You wouldn't believe the selection my store has, must be a 100,000. Everyone is 5 or 6 bucks. IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 817) |
posted May 12, 2000 01:46 PM
Well besides the already over-discussed legal issues WHICH REMAIN UNRESOLVED, it's a question of changing with the times. Whammo was right that there will always be another Napster. The music industry is pissed off at this whole web-based distribution thing, because they are losing money. What they need to do is stop trying to regulate the Net (impossible) and start finding a way to use it to distribute their product. Maybe you've noticed that virtually evey other company has a division for web based distribution of their product. The music industry needs to catch up. Matt IP: Logged |
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Capt'n_Crunch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted May 13, 2000 12:40 AM
I can definitely agree with that Matt, I think if they did something like that it would be much better for everybody... finally a view on this subject I can agree with hehehe  IP: Logged |
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Austin316 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 24) |
posted May 13, 2000 12:57 AM
Just cause all of you guys don't like the members (more particularily Lars) in the band. It doesn't mean their music sux. I think its great for getting pumped up. You can't say you used to like metallica but don't cause they changed, the MUSIC is still the SAME, the people are differant, but there MUSIC is still very good. Just throwin in my 2 cents IP: Logged |
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Serial Joe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted May 13, 2000 11:41 AM
Music is still the same? HELLO MCFLY!?!! Take a listen to Load (of crap) and the Black Album and then listen to Master of Puppets or Kill Em All. Notice anything????? Only slightly different!!!! Their last 3 albums sound more like Nirvana type radio friendly wannabe hardcore music than what they originally started out as. IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted May 13, 2000 12:20 PM
Well Joe, the reason for that is obious, every band changes, they cant stay the same. and as for Metallica, they love to shock and do stuff that puts them on everybodys lips. i have all theire albums, pluss about 500 songs ive downloaded from Napster, and i think they are all fucking great. Yes, the albums differ, but thats the point. "..And Justice for all" for instance has a dark sounf to it, but with Load they tried out lotsa new sounds and rhytmes, wich i tought they did pretty well on. off course its all down to what kinda music u like. but i hardly think they would sell as much as they do if the did bad music. and even now, the black albums sells 10 000 copies a day..how many other bands can say htat one of theire albums sells that much, so many years after it was released?? Just my 2 cents.. ------------------ http://home.sol.no/~mrmuscle/ IP: Logged |
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LEVIATHON Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 80) |
posted May 13, 2000 03:57 PM
Bunch of hipocrits, if any one of you were in the their shoes, you'd do the same thing. I dont care what anybody sais, Metalica is still the pioneer of metal, and no one can argue against that. All Napsters doing is cutting into profits for musicians, anybody would sue their ass. Why the hell would you BUY a cd if you could download it for free? C'mon fellas, can you honestly say you don't understand why musicians are suing? Wouldnt you? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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goleafs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 26) |
posted May 13, 2000 07:37 PM
call your internet service provider and tell them you are being harassed. then ask them for a new ip adress and create a new account. blam-o! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 817) |
posted May 13, 2000 08:12 PM
Metallica wrote a lot of great tunes. I can't deny that - I own some of their albums. Older shit - mostly. But I'm still pissed at them. I won't buy anymore. It's a stretch to call them Pioneers of Metal. Metallica arrived in the early 80's. Black Sabbath was already 13 years old by then. Iron Maiden was popular overseas and gaining popularity here. The Misfits were almost 10 years old and they were real groundbreakers. Metallica may have helped make metal more mainstream, but they were not pioneers. Matt IP: Logged |
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Cleaner Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted May 13, 2000 08:21 PM
Pioneers of metal plzzzzz. How old are you? Man metal was cranking in alot form before they showed up. To say the made the most on metal is true, they also sold out and made it the most main stream. Hell I never liked them much anyway. Can't stand thin little pussy boy with arms no bigger than my girls. Now if you would have said Black Sabbath was the pioneer of metal, I would say probably. IP: Logged |
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Serial Joe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted May 13, 2000 08:53 PM
Mr. Muscle, you're joking right? Metallica changed their sound purposely to gain more radio airplay and appeal to a greater mass of people. Instead of keeping on their natural progression of where their music was headed on And Justice for All, they bring in Bob Rock who is notorious for producing air-headed radio friendly bands and all of a sudden my DAD likes them. Now I don't know about you, but the second my dad is into something new, you just KNOW that it can't be progressive. If you want an example of a band progressing naturally and changing it's music as it goes, look at the Beatles, Zeppelin, in some ways Nirvana, and the Smashing Pumpkins. If anything delving into more sounds and progressing your sound is less radio friendly, not more. Metallica sold out plain and simple. And the funny thing is if you listen to their old stuff, it still sounds pretty fresh, but their last few albums already sound dated! The already sound like they were made years ago. Now I respect that Metallica as one of the pioneers of modern metal (I stress the word modern), but that was 15 years ago, now they try to sound hard and yet at the same time, try to sound poppy enough to be squeezed onto MTV between Britney Spears and Sting. BTW I can name more than a few records that still sell a tonne of copies today, years after being put out, it's not really a great feat anymore. (any Beatles album, Nevermind, Dark Side of the Moon, Back in Black, The Joshua Tree, Led Zeppelin IV, Never Mind the Bollocks Here's the Sex Pistols, The Doors, Hysteria, any Frank Sinatra album, any Hendrix album etc etc) Point is Metallica's egos are too big and they should be happy more people can listen to their music. That's what it's about right? The music. Not how many fans who stuck with them through the times when nobody knew them from my ass you can alienate by telling them that using new technology is cheating them out of royalties. [This message has been edited by Serial Joe (edited May 13, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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blackhaus1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 337) |
posted May 14, 2000 11:53 PM
Ok guys...good news, For all of us that got licked off Napster, you can get scour.com, and when you register it will ask you if you want to scan your hard drive for mp3's and say yes...then all your songs will be transferred from Napster. Good luck! IP: Logged |
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Platinum Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 184) |
posted May 15, 2000 12:06 AM
I am inclined to agree with a lot of what has been said in the past 10 posts on this topic. The problem I do have is the statement that they are greedy. Look, their children's children will have enough money to live comfortably if they were to stop now. I don't buy into the whole greed thing. I do believe that they have changed their music to be more radio friendly. But in the process the radio stations have evolved to play more hard rock. I will not lie and say I do not have music on cds that I have not paid for. I have a burner and I burn a lot of different things. I realize I am being a hypocrite. I also realize that I think a band is awesome I will go buy their CD. It is usually better quality and I want them to continue to make music. This goes for anyone not just Metallica. Forgive me if I ruffled anyone's feathers in the previous posts. If I did let me take this opportunity to apologize. Platinum ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Serial Joe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted May 16, 2000 01:16 PM
The more you get, the more you want. IP: Logged |
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Fish Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted May 16, 2000 02:21 PM
I download and buy the cds. My car cd player will not play mp3s, so I still have to by them. I think they went too far this time. Where they really losing money? I mean how many people did not buy a cd they would have because they downloaded a mp3? No one I know. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Capt'n_Crunch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted May 16, 2000 02:29 PM
Fish, you can copy a MP3 onto a cd IP: Logged |
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Fish Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted May 16, 2000 02:35 PM
I have. It still does not play in my car. Plays in my pc, but not my car. ???? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Capt'n_Crunch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted May 16, 2000 02:40 PM
are you using RW or R discs? IP: Logged |
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glenbenton Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 197) |
posted May 16, 2000 02:54 PM
what kind of faggot would wanna download metallicas shitty lame ass sellout music? all this so called new metal is shit, these bands like limp biskit and kid rock are just the trendy thing that poser teenagers listen to today IP: Logged |
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Fish Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted May 16, 2000 03:24 PM
I don't have a burner, one of my friend does. I don't know what RW, and R mean, nor do I know what he uses. If this is not normal, I will look into it and stop buying Cds. If that is the case, I guess it does hurt sales, huh Does anyone else notice that Glen is always and asshole? He talks shit everytime he post. Glad to have him around... [This message has been edited by Fish (edited May 16, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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glenbenton Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 197) |
posted May 16, 2000 05:40 PM
i dont talk shit i just tell the truth. Metallica got rich and decided to stop writing good metal music. Im not saying metallica was never good im just saying they soldout. IP: Logged |
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Capt'n_Crunch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted May 17, 2000 03:12 AM
trust me fish we all know that, but we just put up with the little fuck......I guess cus he amuses us IP: Logged |
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MrMuscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted May 17, 2000 04:14 AM
Fish: this is how u do it. To convert mp3-diles to cd tracks u have to first convert the mp3 to wav files. Then u have to have a cd burner (offcourse) and using a program that allows u to make a music cd. then just move the wav files over to the cd. and the program will automatically make it into a track.which u then can play in any cd player. Serial Joe: i think we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. i respect your opinions, and it sounds like u know more than me about this issue. im just trying to defend my fav. band. No hard feelings? Glenbenton: Ok, u dont like Metallica, fair enough. but going at us Metallica fans like that aint right man. ------------------ [This message has been edited by MrMuscle (edited May 17, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Vlad67 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 222) |
posted May 17, 2000 07:47 AM
Ive had ride the lightning in my walkman for the last 15 years...only thing that i listen to when im working out..... was a fan till they came out with their "Load of shit" disk.... as far a napster is concerned metallica is making a big mistake.... sure you can get banned from napster but how about the other 50 MP3 sharing communities that will be up by the end of the year .... MP3's are going to bring the music industry to its knees...... $18 for a disk??? and the artist is still tied to a contract that they signed when they were playing clubs.... not metallica of course..... with the MP3 format we can choose what we want to listen to rather than have music shoved down our throats by the record company with the most money......
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got big? Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 36) |
posted May 17, 2000 06:47 PM
I used to be a big Metallica fan. I legitimately own every fucking CD, Video, and Tape they EVER produced. Seen them live, and can play any riff they've ever invented on my guitar. What's my thanks for being a devoted fan? I get banned because I was downloading DEMOS. Fuck them, I filed a counter suit because this shit should not be goin down. Anyone remember the Cliff Burton interview where he's saying they're just doing it for the music, and that's all that matters? Rest in peace my man, you were the life and inspiration of Metallica. IP: Logged |
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glenbenton Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 197) |
posted May 18, 2000 01:39 AM
METALLICAS AND JUSTICE FOR ALL IS THE GREATIST METAL ALBUM EVER IN MY OPINION. EVERYTHING THEY PUT OUT AFTER THAT IS JUST GARBAGE IP: Logged |
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