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Les
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posted April 25, 2000 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Les   Click Here to Email Les     Edit/Delete Message
After seeing those pics of that little boy with an M16 to his head I realize that the USA is dead...They want your rights, your guns..they want us defenseless...just a thought as you sit back and think the US is so great

Hail, Clintler!

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moe dank
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posted April 25, 2000 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
If that was my kid being held unlawfully and that was the fastest way to bring him home, then by all means rush in there and bring him out. I say it was done to late. They should have done it the first damn day the dead line was up.

I agree america is going to shit at a fast pace, but i dont think the action taken was just. That was a hostage situation, nothing more.

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Les
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posted April 25, 2000 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Les   Click Here to Email Les     Edit/Delete Message
that deadline shit is BS..they ran outta time?....Hmmm..why is there a deadline? there is no reason for behavior like this..just like Waco..

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moe dank
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posted April 25, 2000 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
there is a deadline because the child was being held against the wishes of the father. The courts had ruled and the options where all gone.

As far as waco goes, how are you supposed to talk a bunch of crazy religious mental patients out of there fortress. I dont agree with the government raiding the place for guns and shit, but good old david was a child molester. He isnt molesting childern now so problem solved.

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Cleaner
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posted April 25, 2000 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cleaner   Click Here to Email Cleaner     Edit/Delete Message
No fella's the crime was ruby ridge. I don't have time to explain but, the sniper shot a mother dead at 200 yards while she was holding a baby. Alot of good people died over nothing - both sides in that one.Clinto doesn't care about the law why should he, he never goes to jail when he breaks it. It a different game for him. If you don't know about ruby ridge do a search and read up on it. It will make you want to cry.

Oh by the way that was an MP5 - german made gun used in the raid.

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Cleaner
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posted April 25, 2000 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cleaner   Click Here to Email Cleaner     Edit/Delete Message
Here another thing since when can the INS take over control of a military base. What next a freakin missle. Thay went as far as to say who was and wasn't permitted on base.
Whats next a couple tanks like waco - where the line on this shit. They are not a military branch. No business doing that.

I love my country and will die for it, without a hesitation, but I don't trust my goverment at all.

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moe dank
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posted April 25, 2000 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
amen, ruby ridge was the damn wake up call, to hell with that stupid cuban boy. The deal is if you make it to shore you stay. If we have to bring your ass in from sea, you go back. Why was there even a problem

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cm3504jm
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posted April 25, 2000 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cm3504jm   Click Here to Email cm3504jm     Edit/Delete Message

I was taught a long time ago to question everything you see and hear. Hence I am always tearing everything apart to analyze.
There is always two sides to every story, but for as long as I can remember, the newspapers and t.v. always seem to present a one-sided view of events that is passed off as the truth. Lets remember that all news can be manipulated to whatever an editor wants you to see. A perfect example-STEROIDS. I predect that in the future, they will less demonized due to the fact that all the power people will want to use them as a means to become young again.

There is something sinister behind this president. We may never know his motivation or maybe he is just such a dufuss that he gets himself into situations that common sense might have avoided. How does anyone justify spending all that $ and sending in armed officers in a custody matter? There is something more here than meets the eye.

The United States was formed in the belief that States govern themselves and the Federal Government was only there to assist each state as they needed it. The reverse now is true.

As long as we are not committing any heinous crimes against humanity, We should be left alone to pursue our goals and enrich our lives.

ps- I have been told that ATF agents are acquired from those who have failed other Government agencies training programs.


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Cleaner
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posted April 25, 2000 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cleaner   Click Here to Email Cleaner     Edit/Delete Message
I have sat for the u.s. marshal exam and the batf and they were tuff. When i sat for the marshal's office I was one of 32,000 people for 112 postions. It's hard and they are not given. You can't politic your way in like a local police dept..
Do you guy know who Cache Vargas(sp)was. When I learned about Cuban history from my mentor, I understood alot more about our postion. Lets just say we are going soft. And Castro was and is a punk when compared to Vargas - who is dead.

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Frackal
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posted April 25, 2000 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frackal   Click Here to Email Frackal     Edit/Delete Message
If you guys are interested in being shocked by government brutality, I highly suggest the movie, "Waco-The Rules of Engagement". That movie shocked the hell out of even me, and I know quite a bit about the evils the US Government has committed. Rent it at your neighborhood video store today.

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Mr. T
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posted April 25, 2000 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
Im no conspiracy theorist. Those that know me are aware of my strong Law Enforcment ties. But, a scary trend towards centralized government is taking place. This is the very reason why are forefathers created the constitution, to limit what the government can do. Unfortunatley, people keep voting Democratic and our government keeps getting bigger and bigger. There are no States anymore, they are States in name only. (no power) The extraction should have been conducted by plain clothed Miami PD officers with side arms only. If they refused to give the boy over, then you resort to a raid.

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Les
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posted April 27, 2000 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Les   Click Here to Email Les     Edit/Delete Message
Hail, Clintler!!

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Karate guy
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posted April 28, 2000 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karate guy   Click Here to Email Karate guy     Edit/Delete Message
The clintonistas are at it again, breakin in peoples homes under the guise of the'law'. This is supposed to be a nation of laws not of men. The US Constitution is a restraining order on the government, and without that then we have total tyranny. Its interesting to see all the similarities between communism and Clintonism.

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