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TITAN-NICK
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posted April 06, 2000 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TITAN-NICK   Click Here to Email TITAN-NICK     Edit/Delete Message
IM BLACK(SORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYONE)
AND I WANT TO KNOW IF THERE IS SPECIAL SIDE EFFECTS/ WHATS UP WITH THIS QUICK TWITCH MUSCLE THING

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Gtn-Big2
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posted April 06, 2000 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gtn-Big2   Click Here to Email Gtn-Big2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 55151929
Everyone is welcome here...regardless of race.

And if there are some that think differently...you don't owe them an apology...they would owe you one!

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1200bp
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posted April 06, 2000 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1200bp   Click Here to Email 1200bp     Edit/Delete Message
Gee, thanks for the insightful disclaimer...

anyway,

1. fast twitch: large fibers, adapted for rapid and powerful muscle contractions, e.g., jumping, sprinting (aka white muscle)

2. slow twitch: adapted for prolonged, continuous muscle activity, e.g., marathon runner (aka red muscle)

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THESAINT
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posted April 06, 2000 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
THERE ARE ALOT OF BLACK GUYS ON THE BOARD
BRO. WELCOME. CHECK OUT ONE OF THE MORE
PROMINENT BROTHERS ON THE BOARD-CJAC1.
FAST TWITCH FIBERS ARE THE FIBERS THAT
ATROPHY, THE ONES THAT GROW.

[This message has been edited by THESAINT (edited April 06, 2000).]

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deltman
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posted April 06, 2000 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deltman   Click Here to Email deltman     Edit/Delete Message
Why are you apologizing for your color man? I'm a white guy that has many black friends. This board is colorblind okay, we're all bros here.

deltman

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ozzymandius
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posted April 06, 2000 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozzymandius   Click Here to Email ozzymandius     Edit/Delete Message
I should apologize I'm Purple

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tray renfro
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posted April 06, 2000 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tray renfro   Click Here to Email tray renfro     Edit/Delete Message
another brother is welcome any time bro.

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TEXASAMM
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posted April 06, 2000 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TEXASAMM   Click Here to Email TEXASAMM     Edit/Delete Message
yeah me too I'm green!!!!

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young1
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posted April 06, 2000 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for young1   Click Here to Email young1     Edit/Delete Message
If I'm wrong then someone correct me but, I've heard high twitch fibers are found in shoulders,abs and calves. That's how they can grow massive with high reps. Even though I don't allow high reps in my training j/k

Color makes no difference here. We're the Iron brotherhood. And if it does, then we're all the same color during competition!!!
Young1

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Slim Whitman
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posted April 06, 2000 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slim Whitman     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm color blind. I judge people by their actions. Not color, If anyone should be apologizing it should be me for the stupid shit my race has done to other people of color, whether it's black, indian, oriental, or hispanic. Has any other race segregated people based on color more than the white man? No way, and I'm personally ashamed of it!!!!!!!!

Slim

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THESAINT
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posted April 06, 2000 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
HEY SLIM, IF YOU'RE ASHAMED OF YOUR RACE
YOU'RE A MORON. EVERY RACE HAS IT'S BAD APPLES. PERCENTAGE WISE, THE WHITE RACE
HAS VERY FEW. SURE THERE HAS BEEN SOME
BAD THINGS DONE THROUGH OUT THE CENTURIES.
IN EVERY INSTANCE THE MAJORITY HAS BANDED
TOGETHER TO STOP THE OPPRESSION, i.e.
SLAVERY.

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LittleSavage34
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posted April 06, 2000 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LittleSavage34   Click Here to Email LittleSavage34     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 51221561
It's all about pride man. You should be proud of your race no matter what. I judge people based on their actions as well, and I always judge people 1 on 1. Just because Jesse Jackson is a dick, doesn't mean Colon Powell is. Hey, I love people, simple as that.

Let by gones be by gones, and let's focus on improving the future.

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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted April 06, 2000 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
Ok Well I don't know about AS being race coded they work the same on all people, but to be honest I have noticed that Black people have a tendency to make gains faster than other races and have better muscle symetry once they are fully developed, my Ex-Workout partner and best friend is black and he is a fucking genetic freak, he has never tried AS not even creatine, he takes one centrum a day and one vial of Ginseng with breakfast, thats all he has to keep his weight low because he has a wrestling schoolarship to a sec college still at 5'8 and 175 (off season weight) he still curls 150lbs for 8 reps, yes you read right 150lbs

well I don't train with him anymore because he is away at school plus our trainig styles have become different I have a set regime while he is more of an "intictive training" guy,
well to ad to this I'm a LATINO and yes baby we got good genetics too Our legs and calfs wich grow with little effort are the envy of both White and Black guys. ha ha

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Pops
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posted April 07, 2000 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pops   Click Here to Email Pops     Edit/Delete Message
BLACKS ARE GENETICALLY SUPERIOR TO HE REST OF US WHEN IT COMES TO ATHLETIC AND PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES!! duhh!! blacks have it made when it comes to size, natural test production, etc. though i have noticed that blacks lack in the lower leg department.

i am latino, mexican and our genetics are pretty mediocre from what i have seen, we just have to work harder, we are small people (muscle size), depending on our spanish/indian ratio. though i blow up on very low doses of anabolics.

-Pops

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Villan
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posted April 07, 2000 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Villan   Click Here to Email Villan     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67120732
Pops is right! Black people definitely have the genetics to die for! So any help with some gear will definitley blow em up! Naturally, blacks overall are more talented physically because of their genetics, and sometime you get a white guy that can out perform a black guy, he's called "white chocolate". Not many can, as far as on the professional level in sports. What is the predominant race in Football, Basketball, etc. See what I mean. They are good folk. So nobody who is black should be apologizing for posting on these boards. If you are black, you're gifted and have something us white guys dream about, "GENETICS"

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Pecmaster
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posted April 07, 2000 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pecmaster   Click Here to Email Pecmaster     Edit/Delete Message
Never apologize for your race!!!!

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Quadzilla43
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posted April 07, 2000 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quadzilla43     Edit/Delete Message
im black, too. dont worry, nobody on this board seems to care. we're all after one common goal.

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dahmer
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posted April 07, 2000 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dahmer   Click Here to Email dahmer     Edit/Delete Message
Speaking about mediocre..I am Asian! How many jacked Asians have you ever seen?? I workout hard to get to where I am now. I was 155 in high school and it took many years to get to my present weight. I am trying to loose some and cut right now, but still it took alot. As far as genetics, I truly believe that Asians are the hardest gainers. Except for Koreans and Philippinos. There seems to be many jacked ones in my gym. The only large Asian(chinese) I have seen was Bolo from Bloodsport. That freak has some big pecs!!!

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tri~zilla
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posted April 07, 2000 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tri~zilla   Click Here to Email tri~zilla     Edit/Delete Message
i've seen some big asians dahmer, this guy at the 24 hr fitness in mesquite is asian, has at least 21 inch arms, HUGE lats and traps and more really impressive stats. point is i've seen big people of all races, i think
genetics has a good deal to do with how big
someone gets but most importantly, diet, training and personal habits become the biggest factor. i have found out lately i have great genetics but, i was the weakest
kid in my neighborhood because i only ate carbs, empty calories and never worked out
besides some basketball here and there.
what could i expect?

tri

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bad brains
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posted April 07, 2000 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bad brains   Click Here to Email bad brains     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 68109812
I'm so mixed up, I don't know what the hell I am!!!!! Welcome the board bro, and everyone is cool here.

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studcj
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posted April 07, 2000 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for studcj   Click Here to Email studcj     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think AS will have any "special" effects on black people. But, look at the Mr.O. Who was the majority of finalists? I don't know.

As far as muscle twitch fibers. You can train your muscles to be more muscle twitch-like. it's all about training. If you train for a marathon your not gonna be that great in sprints and vice-versa.

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vdevil
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posted April 07, 2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message
That has got to be one of the stupidest and un-thought out questions I have seen yet.
We take steroids made for animals, but in some way, there might be special sides for african-americans??

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conan69
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posted April 07, 2000 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for conan69   Click Here to Email conan69     Edit/Delete Message
Bro the IronBrotherhood is Colorless oh except for the pink dbols.....

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Mojo
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posted April 07, 2000 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo   Click Here to Email Mojo     Edit/Delete Message
MY GRAND MOTHER WAS AN INDIAN, MY GRANDDAD WAS WHITE, SO WHAT DOES THAT MAKE ME? AN AMERICAN THAT DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ME! MY LIFE IS WHAT I MAKE IT!!! I DON'T GET CAUGHT UP IN ALL THE RACIAL BS THAT GOES ON IN THIS COUNTRY. PERIOD. IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN THROUGHOUT YOUR LIFE, YOU WILL NOT BE CAPABLE OF ACHIVEING YOUR GOALS THAT YOU SET FOR YOURSELF. JUST REMEMBER THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU ASSOCIATE WITH PEOPLE OF A DIFFERENT COLOR, AND WANT TO BETTER YOURSELF, YOU ARE NOT AN UNCLE TOM!!!!!!!! LIVE YOUR LIFE FOR YOURSELF, AND YOU WILL PROSPER! JUST ADOPT THE ATTITUDE THAT I GIS A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK, I'M GONA BE ME> PERIOD, AND YOU WILL BE FREE, AND THIS WILL BE A BETTER LIFE FOR YOU & ME!!!!

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Heemaan445
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posted April 07, 2000 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heemaan445     Edit/Delete Message
Titan-Nick was being Sarca-stic !!

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ectomorph
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posted April 07, 2000 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ectomorph   Click Here to Email ectomorph     Edit/Delete Message
Im with Vdevil onthis one

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ruffy
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posted April 07, 2000 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ruffy     Edit/Delete Message
LOL at Vdevil. I agree!

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Mr. T
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posted April 07, 2000 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. T     Edit/Delete Message
There are no special sides that I know of for black people. Although, heart conditions are more prevelent in the black community so you should take that in to account. (blood tests) I would not worry about it though if your only doing a couple cycles a year. I would say an average black guys have better genetics. Not much, but a little. Especially in the metabolism department-

BTW- Biggest hardgainers are definatly Asians

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100acrewoods
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posted April 08, 2000 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 100acrewoods   Click Here to Email 100acrewoods     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 30177303
color has no meaning here.

Only size.

Kinda like my socks. Someone told me once that I was wearing different colored socks. I told them I don't go by color, I go by thickness.

welcome.

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Lqdmscle
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posted April 08, 2000 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lqdmscle   Click Here to Email Lqdmscle     Edit/Delete Message
Hey dahmer! Some asian have good genetics too. Example, me!

I seen this short japanese guy who is only 5'2 and weight 245. Yes, he looked awesome!
There are many amateur body builder who don't compete. So don't say asians are hard gainers. With the right chemical, anyone will grow.

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Rich1
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posted April 08, 2000 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rich1   Click Here to Email Rich1     Edit/Delete Message
Bro no one here cares if your purple, or even if your plaid, welcome to the board. The only thing I would be concerned with as far as race goes would be blood pressure, watch it as blacks tend to run higher pressure just as a statical fact.That means an increased risk of stroke or heart desease.lol...But that would apply even if your NOT on roids, stay healthy bro, eat, lift, rest...

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dahmer
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posted April 08, 2000 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dahmer   Click Here to Email dahmer     Edit/Delete Message
Hey lqdmscle,
I am sure yo can grow on the good stuff. I am just saying that it took me a while to gain on rawdog. Like I said I was 155 at 5,11 in high school. I am now 28 and maintain 190 to 195(trying to go to 190 for summer time) I reached a peak of 210 on raw. My body fat was kinda high, but I looked pretty good. More rounded then ripped, but still looked pretty good. I figured if I could get to 190 and ripped then when I hit my first cycle I should look real good. I am just hoping to be 220. I know I am larger then most Asians, but I was just saying that asians usually have a hard time gaining.

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thiassi
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posted April 08, 2000 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
The only thing I think is race specific would be sicle cell anemia. My girlfriend, who is black, white, and hispanic, says white people can get it as well. I, who am white, say it is a weak genitic geene that would be hard to pass, the same as brown eyes over blue. I do not think there is any other diference. Heart diesease, I think is diet. And the stronger black genetics, I think came from slavery, when owners would breed the strong with the strong. It was a shame, but I don't think Love was not a choice back then.
L8R

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el cubano
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posted April 08, 2000 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for el cubano   Click Here to Email el cubano     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 61265596
Hey man, we don't let black people post on this board. For that fact we HATE CUBANS TOO!!!! LOL. (I hope you realize this is a joke!) Anyway, to answer your question, I have no idea if gear affects black people differently? It affects cubans great though!

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AlaVol1
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posted April 08, 2000 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlaVol1   Click Here to Email AlaVol1     Edit/Delete Message
In response to the man that is ashamed of his white race. That is the biggest bunch of bull I have ever heard. Who do you think sold those black people to the spanish and american slave traders? Cheifs of the native tribs thats who. You don't think white men are fast enough to catch a black man in a jungle do you? And and another thing I get tired of hearing about is the Confederate Flag thing. A Confederate Flag never once flew over a slave ship, not one time. But, the good old red white and blue sure did. So, why don't we band the American Flag.
I don't care if a person is green, purple, blue, black, white and so on. If you want to be treated equal act equal.
I'v never been a slave owner myself but there where white indentured slaves in Europe long before the black man was ever a slave in this country.
So don't try to put everybody on some guilt trip over this crap. Yes I do agree that White Men can't jump but if you got a brain tumor who do you want doing the operation? I know who I would want and he ain't a basketball player. Thats just genes I guess.
Thats just my opinon I might be wrong.

Al

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BIG RICK ROCK
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posted April 08, 2000 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG RICK ROCK   Click Here to Email BIG RICK ROCK     Edit/Delete Message
HOLY SHIT DUDE THAT WAS FUCKING INTENSE!!!

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Slim Whitman
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posted April 08, 2000 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slim Whitman     Edit/Delete Message
Listen here you ignorant fuck!!! Where in my reply does it say I'm ashamed of being white? It doesn't. It says I am ashamed of the things my race has done in the past. Now, if your intelligence level is higher than that of a first grader, you may have UNDERSTOOD what I was saying. But I'll tell you what, I'm fast enough to catch your stupid ass and pound some fucking sense into your thick head!! Why don't you use that confederate flag to re-wipe the shit off your face and stick your head back up your ass, because thats where it was when you wrote your reply. And if you need help, just ask, I'd be more than happy to help. Furthermore, what did we fight the Civil War over? I bet slavery had a big thing to do with it, and to say the Confederate flag, the flag of the south, the very people who condoned slavery, has nothing to do with slavery, is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard. And lastly, where the fuck did our heritage come from?? The Europeans...they found America, remember!! I never asked anyone to feel guilty and to cry with me over this matter, just stating my opinions on the matter, thats all. I'm proud of who I am, not what color, and I wouldn't feel any different if I was black. There will never be any racial harmony in this nation until people recognize what happened in the past, and understand that the people of today aren't responsible for that. See, you understand that part, but you try to place the blame elsewhere, and very poorly I might add!!

Slim

PS: I can jump as high as any MAN (notice how I refer to people, not by color)and I promise you'll jump real fucking high when you see me show up on your door step to kick your little newbie, racist, fucking head in!!!

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HARD-CORE
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posted April 08, 2000 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HARD-CORE     Edit/Delete Message
I can feel the love

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BackDoc
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posted April 12, 2000 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackDoc     Edit/Delete Message
I'm probably one of a very few group of Southerners who is glad that the South lost the war for the most obvious reason. That's because slavery was the most evil and shameful deed in American history. I can only imagine how horrible it must be for some people to have been separated from their loved ones.
Since I have devoted my life to helping others and trying to end suffering, I'm glad the South lost so that slavery would end.
However, the fact of the matter is that there were slaves in northern states as well. It wasn't until well after the civil war ended and the Emancipation Proclaimation was ratified that all slavery essentially ended. To say that the civil war was fought only over slavery is simply not the facts, after all, it was the South that fired the first shots at Fort Sumpter. So why would the South declare war? If the South seceeded from the North and never declared war, then that's the way it would have been probably for a lot longer. The North entered the war for the same economic reasons that the South started it.
I don't want to sound like I'm sympathetic to the South because I'm not. But to say that northern white societies were blameless is fallacious. It seems in debates that northern whites take a 'better than thou' approach when it comes to civil war issues. That's difficult for me to accept in the face of the truth that slavery did exist in some the northern areas.

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